[mailop] supp...@gmail.com doesn't accept email.

2018-01-20 Thread Bill Campbell
I tried sending email to supp...@gmail.com asking how to get
access to a gmail account where 3rd party authorization doesn't
work as the 3rd party is no longer available.

The message bounced as an invalid account.

Bill
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Re: [mailop] conventional wisdom, was Google rejects a TLS connection

2017-03-17 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017, Laura Atkins wrote:
>
>   On Mar 17, 2017, at 7:47 AM, John R Levine <[1]jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>
>   On Fri, 17 Mar 2017, Eric Henson wrote:
>
> As a PCI compliant company, we have to go to great lengths to secure
> any system that stores, processes, or transacts credit card data. If
> that included our email servers, that would put every single mail
> server, every single mail client, including smart phones, in scope
> for our PCI audit. That would be a complete nightmare.
>
>   I believe you, but that's not the question -- when's the last time
>   something bad actually happened due to sending credit card info by
>   mail?
>   I used to have my own credit card account and my card processor
>   demanded PCI compliance.  About 1/4 of it was reasonable, 3/4 was cargo
>   cult stuff that mostly involved stuff like setting packet filters so
>   they couldn't probe ports that weren't going to answer anyway.
>
>   Oh. We had our PCI compliance "security vendor" tell us we should open
>   up ports on our NAT so they could probe the NAT for vulnerabilities to
>   test the security of our
>   only-turned-on-to-connect-to-virtual-terminal-VM that we used for
>   credit card processing (not many of our customers pay with credit
>   cards). We finally "passed" the security sweep by blackholing their
>   scanning IP addresses.

I've had PCI testers complain when they tried port scans on
systems we monitor, and their IPs were blocked almost
immediately.  They couldn't understand active measures that
detect attacks and take actions to prevent damage.  They actually
wanted me to remove the firewall so they could test.

Bill
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warfare. -- James Madison

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Re: [mailop] Google Groups pain

2016-04-26 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016, Steve Freegard wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We scan mail for a domain which uses Google Apps for Education and as  
> part of that they use Google Groups for communications to students.
>
> Does anyone have any idea why when someone sends a message to group  
> 'all_staff_and_stude...@domain.com' that Google insists on sending a  
> single message per-recipient from a host pool instead of sending a  
> single message to multiple groups of recipients (like 50-100 recipients  
> or so)?

Others have answered this.

> Currently if someone sends a message with a 2Mb attachment we then see  
> ~6Gb of traffic back.   It's made worse by the fact that if a user is on  
> several groups and those groups are members of other groups, they get  
> the same message 3 times (Google appears to discard the duplicates, we  
> still receive them though).   It's like a big amplification attack for  
> every message...

Instead of sending 2MB attachments, how about sending a link?
This is easy with at least one webmail program, horde, which
copies the attachment to the horde server.

Bill
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Re: [mailop] Mail accepted by outlook.com/hotmail.com disappears.

2016-03-31 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016, Michael Rathbun wrote:
...
>An elephant superficially resembles a mouse.  There are enormous structural
>differences.

An elephant is a mil-spec mouse.

Bill
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law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other
persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at
the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without
committing a crime. -- Frederic Bastiat, The Law

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Re: [mailop] Yahoo DMARC changes - Proxying SMTP auth for freemail users

2016-03-25 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016, Jay Hennigan wrote:
...
> The end result will be that the freemail account user will get locked  
> out or the account will be shut down. User will then blame the ESP for  
> disrupting his "business" email address.

I can't see this without thinking of one of my favorite Dilbert
cartoons.  "But your e-mail address reveals your newbie identity.
You're probably a goat herder or a cartoonist".  At the time I
think Scott Adams address as <scottad...@aol.com>.

Bill
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If you want government to intervene domestically, you're a liberal.  If you
want government to intervene overseas, you're a conservative.  If you want
government to intervene everywhere, you're a moderate.  If you don't want
government to intervene anywhere, you're an extremist -- Joseph Sobran

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