Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-17 Thread Allen Wittenauer

Thanks to Karthik’s +1, HADOOP-13161 was committed last night and appears to be 
working.

I’ve got almost the entire list of stuff finished.  I’m now going to go 
through the java8 jobs and actually sync them up, since they all do slightly 
different things. :/


> On May 16, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Allen Wittenauer  wrote:
> 
>   OK, it looks like if someone commits HADOOP-13161, then trunk only uses 
> JDK8 and branch-2 will use JDK7 and JDK8 during precommit with no changes 
> required to Apache Yetus. :D
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Allen Wittenauer 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> There’s a bunch of stuff that needs to happen at the Jenkins level:
>> 
>> * Kill off the JDK7 trunk builds for HADOOP, HDFS, MAPRED, YARN
>> * Remove JDK7 from pre-commit for HADOOP, HDFS, MAPRED, YARN
>> 
>> One thing that needs to happen in the Apache Yetus project:
>> * Wait until YETUS-369 has been written and committed to re-enable JDK7 for 
>> pre-commit  (This effectively means that *ALL* JDK7 testing will *ONLY* be 
>> happening in the regularly scheduled builds)
>> 
>> One thing that really should happen in the Apache Hadoop project:
>> * Remove JDK7 from trunk Dockerfile
>> 
>> I’ll start banging on this stuff over the next few days.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Andrew Wang  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very happy to announce that we've committed HADOOP-11858. I'm looking
>>> forward to writing my first lambda in Java. I also attached a video to the
>>> JIRA so we can all relive this moment in Hadoop development history.
>>> 
>>> It sounds like there's some precommit work to align test-patch with this
>>> change. I'm hoping Allen will take point on this, but ping me if I can be
>>> of any assistance.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Li Lu  wrote:
>>> 
 I’d like to bring YARN-4977 into attention for using Java 8. HADOOP-13083
 does the maven change and in yarn-api there are ~5000 javadoc warnings.
 
 Li Lu
 
> On May 10, 2016, at 08:32, Akira AJISAKA 
 wrote:
> 
> Hi developers,
> 
> Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
> Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the
 consensus first.
> 
> One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need
 to configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Akira
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-17 Thread Steve Loughran

> On 16 May 2016, at 23:58, Andrew Wang  wrote:
> 
> Very happy to announce that we've committed HADOOP-11858. I'm looking
> forward to writing my first lambda in Java. I also attached a video to the
> JIRA so we can all relive this moment in Hadoop development history.
> 
> It sounds like there's some precommit work to align test-patch with this
> change. I'm hoping Allen will take point on this, but ping me if I can be
> of any assistance.
> 

Everyone who worked on this deserves a lot of credit, especially anyone working 
on library incompatibilities


What does it mean?

1. it means that if you are working on trunk, you only need to worry about Java 
8. 

2. You can use java 8 language features: time to learn your lambda expressions. 
 Apparently this it a good tutorial 
http://www.cse.chalmers.se/research/group/logic/TypesSS05/Extra/geuvers.pdf

3. You can use java 8 library features.


It also means: you can no longer backport stuff from trunk to branch-2 and 
expect it to always compile

If you are working on code which you hope to get into branch-2, you need to 
show it will work in Java 7

Tactics

1. work on branch-2; forward port to trunk
2. before backporting from trunk, submit a HADOOP-1234-branch-2-001.patch ; 
yetus will see the branch-2 marker and test against branch2.

I would recommend always doing #2, irrespective of which branch you work on. 
Why? It means you can just switch the java version on your path to 1.8, with 
branch-2 still being in java 7 language —but the java library picked up will be 
the 1.8 lib. The only way to be confident that you haven't picked up java 8 
features is to build and test against JDK7, which Yetus does if you name your 
patch right.

I know this will be a bit of extra work, and I expect we will all make mistakes 
here. If anyone does accidentally commit JDK8+ code to branch-2, then it should 
be bounced out as soon as it's noticed, then a new patch nurtured in via Yetus  
& Jenkins. We want to keep branch-2 building.

On that topic, Jenkins isn't happy these days...I think we need to spend some 
monitoring it and fixing. At least now we can cull the java7 trunk builds, 
leaving less to ignore.


 There's one test, TestDNS which fails intermittently (always), but more and 
more we are learning to ignore. That's dangerous. 



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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-16 Thread Allen Wittenauer
OK, it looks like if someone commits HADOOP-13161, then trunk only uses 
JDK8 and branch-2 will use JDK7 and JDK8 during precommit with no changes 
required to Apache Yetus. :D


> On May 16, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Allen Wittenauer 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> There’s a bunch of stuff that needs to happen at the Jenkins level:
> 
> * Kill off the JDK7 trunk builds for HADOOP, HDFS, MAPRED, YARN
> * Remove JDK7 from pre-commit for HADOOP, HDFS, MAPRED, YARN
> 
> One thing that needs to happen in the Apache Yetus project:
> * Wait until YETUS-369 has been written and committed to re-enable JDK7 for 
> pre-commit  (This effectively means that *ALL* JDK7 testing will *ONLY* be 
> happening in the regularly scheduled builds)
> 
> One thing that really should happen in the Apache Hadoop project:
> * Remove JDK7 from trunk Dockerfile
> 
> I’ll start banging on this stuff over the next few days.
> 
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Andrew Wang  wrote:
>> 
>> Very happy to announce that we've committed HADOOP-11858. I'm looking
>> forward to writing my first lambda in Java. I also attached a video to the
>> JIRA so we can all relive this moment in Hadoop development history.
>> 
>> It sounds like there's some precommit work to align test-patch with this
>> change. I'm hoping Allen will take point on this, but ping me if I can be
>> of any assistance.
>> 
>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Li Lu  wrote:
>> 
>>> I’d like to bring YARN-4977 into attention for using Java 8. HADOOP-13083
>>> does the maven change and in yarn-api there are ~5000 javadoc warnings.
>>> 
>>> Li Lu
>>> 
 On May 10, 2016, at 08:32, Akira AJISAKA 
>>> wrote:
 
 Hi developers,
 
 Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
 Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the
>>> consensus first.
 
 One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need
>>> to configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
 Akira
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-16 Thread Allen Wittenauer

There’s a bunch of stuff that needs to happen at the Jenkins level:

* Kill off the JDK7 trunk builds for HADOOP, HDFS, MAPRED, YARN
* Remove JDK7 from pre-commit for HADOOP, HDFS, MAPRED, YARN

One thing that needs to happen in the Apache Yetus project:
* Wait until YETUS-369 has been written and committed to re-enable JDK7 for 
pre-commit  (This effectively means that *ALL* JDK7 testing will *ONLY* be 
happening in the regularly scheduled builds)

One thing that really should happen in the Apache Hadoop project:
* Remove JDK7 from trunk Dockerfile

I’ll start banging on this stuff over the next few days.


> On May 16, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Andrew Wang  wrote:
> 
> Very happy to announce that we've committed HADOOP-11858. I'm looking
> forward to writing my first lambda in Java. I also attached a video to the
> JIRA so we can all relive this moment in Hadoop development history.
> 
> It sounds like there's some precommit work to align test-patch with this
> change. I'm hoping Allen will take point on this, but ping me if I can be
> of any assistance.
> 
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Li Lu  wrote:
> 
>> I’d like to bring YARN-4977 into attention for using Java 8. HADOOP-13083
>> does the maven change and in yarn-api there are ~5000 javadoc warnings.
>> 
>> Li Lu
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2016, at 08:32, Akira AJISAKA 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi developers,
>>> 
>>> Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
>>> Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the
>> consensus first.
>>> 
>>> One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need
>> to configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Akira
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-16 Thread Andrew Wang
Very happy to announce that we've committed HADOOP-11858. I'm looking
forward to writing my first lambda in Java. I also attached a video to the
JIRA so we can all relive this moment in Hadoop development history.

It sounds like there's some precommit work to align test-patch with this
change. I'm hoping Allen will take point on this, but ping me if I can be
of any assistance.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Li Lu  wrote:

> I’d like to bring YARN-4977 into attention for using Java 8. HADOOP-13083
> does the maven change and in yarn-api there are ~5000 javadoc warnings.
>
> Li Lu
>
> > On May 10, 2016, at 08:32, Akira AJISAKA 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi developers,
> >
> > Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
> > Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the
> consensus first.
> >
> > One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need
> to configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Akira
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-12 Thread Li Lu
I’d like to bring YARN-4977 into attention for using Java 8. HADOOP-13083 does 
the maven change and in yarn-api there are ~5000 javadoc warnings. 

Li Lu

> On May 10, 2016, at 08:32, Akira AJISAKA  wrote:
> 
> Hi developers,
> 
> Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
> Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the consensus 
> first.
> 
> One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need to 
> configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Akira
> 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-12 Thread Masatake Iwasaki

+1

Masatake

On 5/12/16 13:11, Gangumalla, Uma wrote:

+1

Regards,
Uma

On 5/10/16, 2:24 PM, "Andrew Wang"  wrote:


+1

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ravi Prakash 
wrote:


+1. Thanks for driving this Akira

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Tsuyoshi Ozawa 
wrote:


Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in

trunk.

Sounds good. To do so, we need to check the blockers of 3.0.0-alpha
RC, especially upgrading all dependencies which use refractions at
first.

Thanks,
- Tsuyoshi

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Akira AJISAKA
 wrote:

Hi developers,

Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in

trunk.

Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the

consensus

first.

One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we

need

to

configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Akira



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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-11 Thread Junping Du
bq. We'll need to be strict after the switch: all patches to go into branch 2 
will have to go through yetus as branch-2 patches, then cherry picked to trunk, 
or a separate patch on the same JIRA done for the branch-2. Assuming yetus 
still tests the branch-2 stuff on JDK7, that will check version compatibility 
pre-commit.
+1. That's something I want to say also. We should have separate process for 
backport effort between Trunk and branch-2 then. Otherwise, we could involve 
Java 7 related bug to branch-2 after the backport.

Thanks,

Junping

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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

>
> On 10 May 2016, at 16:32, Akira AJISAKA  wrote:
>
> Hi developers,
>
> Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.

+1

Given Robert Kanter first filed the patch to do this —why not give him the 
honour. In fact, why not have a webex screen share of the occasion so we can 
all celebrate?



> Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the consensus 
> first.
>
> One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need to 
> configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
>

LGTM

We'll need to be strict after the switch: all patches to go into branch 2 will 
have to go through yetus as branch-2 patches, then cherry picked to trunk, or a 
separate patch on the same JIRA done for the branch-2. Assuming yetus still 
tests the branch-2 stuff on JDK7, that will check version compatibility 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-11 Thread Steve Loughran
> 
> On 10 May 2016, at 16:32, Akira AJISAKA  wrote:
> 
> Hi developers,
> 
> Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.

+1

Given Robert Kanter first filed the patch to do this —why not give him the 
honour. In fact, why not have a webex screen share of the occasion so we can 
all celebrate?



> Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the consensus 
> first.
> 
> One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need to 
> configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
> 

LGTM

We'll need to be strict after the switch: all patches to go into branch 2 will 
have to go through yetus as branch-2 patches, then cherry picked to trunk, or a 
separate patch on the same JIRA done for the branch-2. Assuming yetus still 
tests the branch-2 stuff on JDK7, that will check version compatibility 
pre-commit
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-10 Thread Andrew Wang
+1

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Ravi Prakash  wrote:

> +1. Thanks for driving this Akira
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Tsuyoshi Ozawa  wrote:
>
> > > Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
> >
> > Sounds good. To do so, we need to check the blockers of 3.0.0-alpha
> > RC, especially upgrading all dependencies which use refractions at
> > first.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Tsuyoshi
> >
> > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Akira AJISAKA
> >  wrote:
> > > Hi developers,
> > >
> > > Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
> > > Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the
> consensus
> > > first.
> > >
> > > One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we
> need
> > to
> > > configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Akira
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-10 Thread Ravi Prakash
+1. Thanks for driving this Akira

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Tsuyoshi Ozawa  wrote:

> > Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
>
> Sounds good. To do so, we need to check the blockers of 3.0.0-alpha
> RC, especially upgrading all dependencies which use refractions at
> first.
>
> Thanks,
> - Tsuyoshi
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Akira AJISAKA
>  wrote:
> > Hi developers,
> >
> > Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
> > Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the consensus
> > first.
> >
> > One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need
> to
> > configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-10 Thread Tsuyoshi Ozawa
> Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.

Sounds good. To do so, we need to check the blockers of 3.0.0-alpha
RC, especially upgrading all dependencies which use refractions at
first.

Thanks,
- Tsuyoshi

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Akira AJISAKA
 wrote:
> Hi developers,
>
> Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
> Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the consensus
> first.
>
> One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need to
> configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Akira
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Re: [DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-10 Thread Allen Wittenauer

> On May 10, 2016, at 8:32 AM, Akira AJISAKA  wrote:
> 
> Hi developers,
> 
> Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.

+1 yes please.  

> One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need to 
> configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.

Two points:

* The feature to do this in test-patch is already on the roadmap, since 
HBase asked already: YETUS-369 .  We’re really close to releasing Apache Yetus 
0.3.0, so it won’t show up until 0.4.0 though.  It’s a non-trivial change on 
it’s own, and based on some conversations I’ve been having this week with other 
Yetus users, I’m thinking we may want to rewrite how multijdkmode works anyway.

* It’s feasible to just disable multijdkmode in precommit and then rely 
upon the regularly scheduled builds to tell us if branch-2 gets broken by a 
JDK8-only patch.  (FWIW: I’ll be talking about it during ApacheCon, but I’ve 
been working on a Yetus-ified replacement for those “build the world” jobs such 
that they are actually useful, less frequent, easier to read, less likely to 
break due to running in a docker container, etc, etc.)
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[DISCUSS] Set minimum version of Hadoop 3 to JDK8 (HADOOP-11858)

2016-05-10 Thread Akira AJISAKA

Hi developers,

Before cutting 3.0.0-alpha RC, I'd like to drop JDK7 support in trunk.
Given this is a critical change, I'm thinking we should get the 
consensus first.


One concern I think is, when the minimum version is set to JDK8, we need 
to configure Jenkins to disable multi JDK test only in trunk.


Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Akira

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