Re: [mapserver-users] R

2009-06-12 Thread Thomas Bonfort
you can have a look at how bridges are done on the wiki page that
accompanies the map on the mapserver.org frontpage (there's a bridge
right south of the sydney exhibition center when you zoom in to the
closest level, not sure why some don't show up on motorways). That,
coupled with start/end geotransform should get quite close to what you
want.

regards,

thomas

www.camptocamp.com
+33 4 79 26 57 97



On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 06:34, David Nugentdav...@datalinktech.com.au wrote:
 Greetings all,

 On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:37:11 +1000, I wrote:

 One last problem I'm scratching my head on.

 I want to highlight bridges by using a thick border on each side of the
 road (and if possible an angular section at each end of the border as often
 seen in traditional road maps). Using an outline won't work for this as
 outlines close the end points of the line segment with a border and I would
 prefer them to blend directly with the road to which they belong. I'm
 thinking a symbol would be needed but not sure how to approach it.

 Like (view this with a fixed width font):

 \/__
   __
    /                             \

 (imagine lines joining \/ being thick)

 How to achieve such a border?


 Following up on my own post again...

 SYMBOL does not appear to be well suited (unless I'm missing something) but
 I've come close with GEOMTRANSFORM, however only at the start and end of a
 line segment using what are essentially reversed arrowheads.

 I read the RFC in the mapserver 5.4 documentation and it talks about plans
 to extend functionality of GEOMTRANSFORM (which it incorrectly refers to as
 GEOTRANSFORM and GEOMETRYTRANSFORM, incidentally), and I *think* either the
 distance or buffer might achieve most of what I need with ANGLE AUTO -
 to draw a parallel line segment. However neither appears to be implemented
 yet.


 Regards,
 David
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Re: [mapserver-users] R

2009-06-12 Thread David Nugent
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:03:41 +1000, Thomas Bonfort  
thomas.bonf...@camptocamp.com wrote:



you can have a look at how bridges are done on the wiki page that
accompanies the map on the mapserver.org frontpage (there's a bridge
right south of the sydney exhibition center when you zoom in to the
closest level, not sure why some don't show up on motorways). That,
coupled with start/end geotransform should get quite close to what you
want.


Thanks Thomas,

The geomtransform is ok on straight stretches but otherwise I'll consider  
it a work in progress - it generally looks poor on curved stretches of  
road. :-) I may well have to do with the thicker outlines similar to the  
demo map or make them smaller or something.


Since the wiki is pretty much broken now (moved, unchanged base href and  
so on), I'm assuming the outline was done with a filled bar symbol with  
negative gap under the road line since it looks similar to the solution I  
eventually wound up with to get the borders without closing the ends of  
the segments.


Regards,
David
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[mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile

2009-06-12 Thread padma priya
Hi 
Can anyone give me pointers on how to display maps on the mobile. I have a good 
GIS web site working with mapserver and openlayers. But i need to view 
simplified maps on the mobile too. Is that possible.

TIA
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Re: [mapserver-users] R

2009-06-12 Thread Thomas Bonfort
 Since the wiki is pretty much broken now (moved, unchanged base href and so
 on), I'm assuming the outline was done with a filled bar symbol with
 negative gap under the road line since it looks similar to the solution I
 eventually wound up with to get the borders without closing the ends of the
 segments.

no, they are normal lines, except the first style (the thickest one)
has butt caps.

regards,
thomas
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Re: [mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile

2009-06-12 Thread Frederic Junod
Hi,

I've tested iOL from opengeo [1]: iOL.js makes OpenLayers map
handling and editing capabilities available on the iPhone.

Works well but it's iphone specific, no other devices support (nokia,
android, ...)

fredj

[1] http://opengeo.org/community/mobile/

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:59 AM, padma priyavppr...@tenet.res.in wrote:
 Hi
 Can anyone give me pointers on how to display maps on the mobile. I have a 
 good GIS web site working with mapserver and openlayers. But i need to view 
 simplified maps on the mobile too. Is that possible.

 TIA
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Re: [mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile

2009-06-12 Thread Frederic Junod
If the images returned by mapserver (WMS) are viewable by the mobile
browser, then yes: it's supported.
The main problem here is the map navigation (pan, zoom, etc ...) with
OpenLayers in a mobile browser.

But that's a javascript problem, not a mapserver problem.

fredj

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:58 AM, padma priyavppr...@tenet.res.in wrote:
 Thanks but does mapserver support map creation for the mobile browser?


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Re: RE: [mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile

2009-06-12 Thread padma priya
Thanks Stephen. I have a web GIS application which runs on firefox or IE.
But it does not display map on the mobile browser. The basic architecture
is this: PHP page, invoking  mapserver through mapfiles. I was thinking if
I can get a 
image output from mapserver which was reduced/compressed in size it may
solve the problem. when i create a basic border outline kinda map the image
generated through shp2img is about 600kb which is a lot to display on a
mobile. Maybe that is the reason my web page does not display on the mobile
browser?
-Original Message-
From: stephen kelly st...@sjk.net.au
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:23:19 +1000
To: padma priya vppr...@tenet.res.in, mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
CC: 
Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile

Hi,

Technically MapServer does not know or care, what it is creating a map
for, it is the website built around MapServer, that matters.

But the simple answer is Yes - it can be done - we here have done 3
different solutions that we have done for mobiles.

a) - simple browser (mobile or normal web browser) based that will work
on any phone with a browser

b) - advanced functions and maps in a client side application for
windows mobiles

c) - advanced JavaScript website that works on iPhones / blackberries

I hope this help, if you want any more information I will (should) be
around most of the weekend and can talk to you more about this.

Thanks

Stephen Kelly 
www.Peepel.com 




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Re: RE: [mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile

2009-06-12 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi,

A few years ago I had a try with MapLab by creating an MapLab application using 
pure http controls for zooming and panning.  It worked fine with mobile device 
I had that time (iPaq and another PDA that was running on .NET 4.0) over first 
generation GPRS connection.  MapLab is gone but if you adjust the SIZE in the 
mapfile to suit the screen size of the mobile device the image file size should 
not be any problem.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

 -Alkuperäinen viesti-
 Lähettäjä: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
 [mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Puolesta padma priya
 Lähetetty: 12. kesäkuuta 2009 13:57
 Vastaanottaja: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
 Aihe: Re: RE: [mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile
 
 Thanks Stephen. I have a web GIS application which runs on 
 firefox or IE.
 But it does not display map on the mobile browser. The basic 
 architecture is this: PHP page, invoking  mapserver through 
 mapfiles. I was thinking if I can get a image output from 
 mapserver which was reduced/compressed in size it may solve 
 the problem. when i create a basic border outline kinda map 
 the image generated through shp2img is about 600kb which is a 
 lot to display on a mobile. Maybe that is the reason my web 
 page does not display on the mobile browser?
 -Original Message-
 From: stephen kelly st...@sjk.net.au
 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:23:19 +1000
 To: padma priya vppr...@tenet.res.in, 
 mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
 CC: 
 Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile
 
 Hi,
 
 Technically MapServer does not know or care, what it is 
 creating a map for, it is the website built around MapServer, 
 that matters.
 
 But the simple answer is Yes - it can be done - we here have 
 done 3 different solutions that we have done for mobiles.
 
 a) - simple browser (mobile or normal web browser) based that 
 will work on any phone with a browser
 
 b) - advanced functions and maps in a client side application 
 for windows mobiles
 
 c) - advanced JavaScript website that works on iPhones / blackberries
 
 I hope this help, if you want any more information I will 
 (should) be around most of the weekend and can talk to you 
 more about this.
 
 Thanks
 
 Stephen Kelly
 www.Peepel.com 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
 [mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of padma
 priya
 Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 8:06 PM
 To: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
 Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] Displaying maps on the mobile
 
 Thanks but does mapserver support map creation for the mobile browser?
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RE: [mapserver-users] Major MapServer Performance Problem on SunSolaris 10 64bit

2009-06-12 Thread Nolte, Tim
John,

I am very glad that you have brought this up. We are currently running
our MapServer on Solaris 10 x86 and I believe we are running it as 32bit
but I can't actually say for sure, I just used standard compile
instructions. We're running on two 3GHz Xeons. I have had many
complaints concerning the performance of the server and haven't even
considered that MapServer might be the culprit. We have both shapefile
and Oracle Spatial data sources. We've always had the server running
under Solaris 10 x86 so haven't even compared it to running under a
different OS. I am very interested to hear any feedback on this subject
as I may have to look at moving to Linux as my OS to get the performance
gains I need.

- Tim


Timothy J Nolte - tno...@ilpcs.com
Network Planning Engineer

iPCS Wireless, Inc.
4717 Broadmoor Ave, Suite G
Kentwood, MI 49512

Office: 616-656-5163
PCS:616-706-2438
Fax:616-554-6484
Web: www.ipcswirelessinc.com

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From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of John
Westwood
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:51 AM
To: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [mapserver-users] Major MapServer Performance Problem on
SunSolaris 10 64bit

Hi,

We have been developing an application with MapServer as the backend. We
developed it on an SLES Linux box, we are now setting it up on the Sun
Solaris 10 production server. Unfortunately, the performance of
MapServer on the production machine is very slow, considerably slower
than the Linux development machine (which is much less powerful). The
performance problem is particularly pronounced when serving vector
PostGIS layers (OpenStreetMap), but it is also noticeably slow when
serving rasters.

We have tested PostGIS, this is fast and therefore no the problem. I
have looked at the MapServer debug file at debug level 5 and this does
not reveal much, except that both the total msDrawMap() time and the
mapserv request processing time are slow. So, MapServer seems to be slow
across the board. The Apache log file also confirms that the MapServer
requests are slow.  

Originally, we had MapServer compiled as 64bit and Apache as 32bit, we
thought that maybe this could be the problem. So, we compiled Apache for
64bit - but has not made any difference. We are considering using 32bit
Apache and 32bit MapServer but we are not sure if it will fix the
problem.

Does anybody have any ideas on what the problem could be or how we could
go about diagnosing it? We would greatly appreciate any advice.

Regards,

John Westwood
Great Britain Historical GIS Project
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RE: [mapserver-users] Multi layer/class : performance

2009-06-12 Thread Stephen Kelly
Alexandra,

Hi, if you are really interested we have developed a tool here to create tiles 
for one of our mapping tools, and we generate about 100,000 very large 
mapserver maps per day and it would be easy for us to do some timing tests for 
you of both ways and to see which way is the fastest. 

One thing we have discovered is that what you do to your shape files is 
generally more important for speed, than what you do to your map files.

Although we do not rely on min/max scale and choose manually at what zoom what 
information is shown, and have that in separate map files, as that is the 
fastest (for what we need to do).

If you have any specific data / map files that you wanted me to test it on- I 
am sure that we could accommodate that.

We can do 16,000 images one way, 16,000 the other way and time each image and 
see which way works.

Thanks

Stephen Kelly 
www.Peepel.com 

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From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
[mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Dube
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 11:21 PM
To: MAPSERVER USERS
Subject: [mapserver-users] Multi layer/class : performance

Hi,

  I wonder which of theses two cases is better :

  CASE 1 : Multi layer :
  Define one layer per scale with minscale and maxscale, each having one 
set of classes.

  CASE 2 : One layer :
  Define one layer only with one set of classes per scale.  The classes 
would have the minscale and maxscale properties.

  I find the second case cleaner but I'm wondering about performance.  
Would it be slower to draw the bottom classes ( the ones with minscale 
properties only, for example) ?

Thanks,

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Mapgears
www.mapgears.com

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Re: [mapserver-users] Major MapServer Performance Problem on SunSolaris 10 64bit

2009-06-12 Thread Umberto Nicoletti
I am not a Solaris expert, but if you are running mapserver as a CGI,
Linux will almost surely be faster because of its (notoriously?) lower
process creation cost.
Now I don't have actual numbers to back this argument but a quick
google reveals this thread on Sun forums:

http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5207554tstart=3344

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers-win32/2003-11/msg00044.php
(third para).

A solution would be using mapserver as a FastCGI.

HTH,
Umberto


On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Nolte,
Timtim.no...@ipcswirelessinc.com wrote:
 John,

 I am very glad that you have brought this up. We are currently running
 our MapServer on Solaris 10 x86 and I believe we are running it as 32bit
 but I can't actually say for sure, I just used standard compile
 instructions. We're running on two 3GHz Xeons. I have had many
 complaints concerning the performance of the server and haven't even
 considered that MapServer might be the culprit. We have both shapefile
 and Oracle Spatial data sources. We've always had the server running
 under Solaris 10 x86 so haven't even compared it to running under a
 different OS. I am very interested to hear any feedback on this subject
 as I may have to look at moving to Linux as my OS to get the performance
 gains I need.

 - Tim

 
 Timothy J Nolte - tno...@ilpcs.com
 Network Planning Engineer

 iPCS Wireless, Inc.
 4717 Broadmoor Ave, Suite G
 Kentwood, MI 49512

 Office: 616-656-5163
 PCS:    616-706-2438
 Fax:    616-554-6484
 Web: www.ipcswirelessinc.com

 -Original Message-
 From: mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
 [mailto:mapserver-users-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of John
 Westwood
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:51 AM
 To: mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org
 Subject: [mapserver-users] Major MapServer Performance Problem on
 SunSolaris 10 64bit

 Hi,

 We have been developing an application with MapServer as the backend. We
 developed it on an SLES Linux box, we are now setting it up on the Sun
 Solaris 10 production server. Unfortunately, the performance of
 MapServer on the production machine is very slow, considerably slower
 than the Linux development machine (which is much less powerful). The
 performance problem is particularly pronounced when serving vector
 PostGIS layers (OpenStreetMap), but it is also noticeably slow when
 serving rasters.

 We have tested PostGIS, this is fast and therefore no the problem. I
 have looked at the MapServer debug file at debug level 5 and this does
 not reveal much, except that both the total msDrawMap() time and the
 mapserv request processing time are slow. So, MapServer seems to be slow
 across the board. The Apache log file also confirms that the MapServer
 requests are slow.

 Originally, we had MapServer compiled as 64bit and Apache as 32bit, we
 thought that maybe this could be the problem. So, we compiled Apache for
 64bit - but has not made any difference. We are considering using 32bit
 Apache and 32bit MapServer but we are not sure if it will fix the
 problem.

 Does anybody have any ideas on what the problem could be or how we could
 go about diagnosing it? We would greatly appreciate any advice.

 Regards,

 John Westwood
 Great Britain Historical GIS Project
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