Re: [MapServer-users] Speeding up msDrawMap() for shapefiles
I think that for my case, it probably comes down to the S3 access times in general. Going to investigate more of what can be done to improve that side of the situation. Thanks everyone for all the input though! On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 2:35 PM Matthew Graber wrote: > I hadn't found that, thanks! It looks like it's largely suggesting what > I've already investigated though, using `shptree` to create the .qix > spatial index and `coshp` to sort the shapefile. > > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 1:37 PM Steve Lime wrote: > >> Did you have a look at https://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2022/04/coshp.html? >> >> On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 2:39 PM Matthew Graber via MapServer-users < >> mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Jukka, >>> >>> Thanks for the advice. I was able to confirm through local testing that >>> using "DATA" is consistently faster than using the OGR connection (was >>> getting over 500 ms for OGR vs just over 300 ms for DATA). My results are >>> also suggesting that performing the shapefile optimizations may make my >>> request several hundredths of a second faster, I'm a little less sure on >>> that one. But regardless, it appears that the bulk of the problem with the >>> slow S3 connection is likely S3's overhead, so I don't think there's >>> anything more I can do with MapServer to speed it up. >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> Matt >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:58 AM Rahkonen Jukka < >>> jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: >>> Hi, You should test the same shapefiles locally for understanding where the time gets spent. Normal time with simple styles is perhaps up to 300 ms. The optimization hints were written long before there were S3 or Amazon (the company). Unfortunately I don’t know how to optimize access to S3. -Jukka Rahkonen- *Lähettäjä:* MapServer-users *Puolesta *Matthew Graber via MapServer-users *Lähetetty:* perjantai 8. joulukuuta 2023 21.47 *Vastaanottaja:* mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org *Aihe:* [MapServer-users] Speeding up msDrawMap() for shapefiles Hi, I'm trying to speed up the time required for msDrawMap() to execute for rendering shapefiles. Currently, according to the mapserver logs, it's taking 2.5-3.5 seconds, sometimes up to 5 seconds for it to execute: [Wed Dec 6 18:43:47 2023].699791 CGI Request 53 on process 2641 [Wed Dec 6 18:43:47 2023].717216 msDrawMap(): rendering using outputformat named png (AGG/PNG). [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299580 msDrawMap(): Layer 1010 (Shapefile_Layer), 4.582s [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299792 msDrawMap(): Drawing Label Cache, 0.000s [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299803 msDrawMap() total time: 4.584s [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].310853 msSaveImage(stdout) total time: 0.011s [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].310883 mapserv request processing time (msLoadMap not incl.): 4.611s The mapfile is currently set up using "CONNECTIONTYPE OGR" and "CONNECTION" to access the shapefiles from an S3 bucket as follows: CONNECTIONTYPE OGR CONNECTION'/vsis3/s3_bucket_path/my_shapefile%.shp' I noticed at https://mapserver.org/input/vector/shapefiles.html that it says "Shapefile access is built directly into MapServer. It is also available through OGR, but direct access without OGR is recommended and discussed here." So I tried removing "CONNECTIONTYPE OGR" and changing "CONNECTION" to "DATA" as follows: DATA'/vsis3/s3_bucket_path/my_shapefile%.shp' I haven't been able to observe any definitive speed improvements by doing this yet, although I can't say for sure that there aren't any. Based on https://mapserver.org/optimization/vector.html, I also tried using the shptree command to create a spatial index and the coshp command to sort the shapefile and index. Even after doing that, I still see load msDrawMap() times of up to 5 seconds. Does anyone know of any other optimizations that could be made here? Or if not, would using shptree and coshp on the shapefile and then accessing it in the mapfile using "DATA" to take it from S3 be the optimal way to set things up? Thanks! Matt >>> ___ >>> MapServer-users mailing list >>> MapServer-users@lists.osgeo.org >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users >>> >> ___ MapServer-users mailing list MapServer-users@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [MapServer-users] Speeding up msDrawMap() for shapefiles
Did you have a look at https://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2022/04/coshp.html? On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 2:39 PM Matthew Graber via MapServer-users < mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > Hi Jukka, > > Thanks for the advice. I was able to confirm through local testing that > using "DATA" is consistently faster than using the OGR connection (was > getting over 500 ms for OGR vs just over 300 ms for DATA). My results are > also suggesting that performing the shapefile optimizations may make my > request several hundredths of a second faster, I'm a little less sure on > that one. But regardless, it appears that the bulk of the problem with the > slow S3 connection is likely S3's overhead, so I don't think there's > anything more I can do with MapServer to speed it up. > > Thanks again, > Matt > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:58 AM Rahkonen Jukka < > jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> You should test the same shapefiles locally for understanding where the >> time gets spent. Normal time with simple styles is perhaps up to 300 ms. >> The optimization hints were written long before there were S3 or Amazon >> (the company). >> >> Unfortunately I don’t know how to optimize access to S3. >> >> >> >> -Jukka Rahkonen- >> >> >> >> *Lähettäjä:* MapServer-users >> *Puolesta >> *Matthew Graber via MapServer-users >> *Lähetetty:* perjantai 8. joulukuuta 2023 21.47 >> *Vastaanottaja:* mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org >> *Aihe:* [MapServer-users] Speeding up msDrawMap() for shapefiles >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I'm trying to speed up the time required for msDrawMap() to execute for >> rendering shapefiles. Currently, according to the mapserver logs, it's >> taking 2.5-3.5 seconds, sometimes up to 5 seconds for it to execute: >> >> >> >> [Wed Dec 6 18:43:47 2023].699791 CGI Request 53 on process 2641 >> [Wed Dec 6 18:43:47 2023].717216 msDrawMap(): rendering using >> outputformat named png (AGG/PNG). >> [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299580 msDrawMap(): Layer 1010 >> (Shapefile_Layer), 4.582s >> [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299792 msDrawMap(): Drawing Label Cache, 0.000s >> [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299803 msDrawMap() total time: 4.584s >> [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].310853 msSaveImage(stdout) total time: 0.011s >> >> [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].310883 mapserv request processing time >> (msLoadMap not incl.): 4.611s >> >> >> >> The mapfile is currently set up using "CONNECTIONTYPE OGR" and >> "CONNECTION" to access the shapefiles from an S3 bucket as follows: >> >> >> >> CONNECTIONTYPE OGR >> CONNECTION'/vsis3/s3_bucket_path/my_shapefile%.shp' >> >> >> >> I noticed at https://mapserver.org/input/vector/shapefiles.html that it >> says "Shapefile access is built directly into MapServer. It is also >> available through OGR, but direct access without OGR is recommended and >> discussed here." >> >> So I tried removing "CONNECTIONTYPE OGR" and changing "CONNECTION" to >> "DATA" as follows: >> >> >> >> DATA'/vsis3/s3_bucket_path/my_shapefile%.shp' >> >> >> >> I haven't been able to observe any definitive speed improvements by doing >> this yet, although I can't say for sure that there aren't any. >> >> >> >> Based on https://mapserver.org/optimization/vector.html, I also tried >> using the shptree command to create a spatial index and the coshp command >> to sort the shapefile and index. Even after doing that, I still see load >> msDrawMap() times of up to 5 seconds. >> >> >> >> Does anyone know of any other optimizations that could be made here? Or >> if not, would using shptree and coshp on the shapefile and then accessing >> it in the mapfile using "DATA" to take it from S3 be the optimal way to set >> things up? >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Matt >> > ___ > MapServer-users mailing list > MapServer-users@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users > ___ MapServer-users mailing list MapServer-users@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
Re: [MapServer-users] Speeding up msDrawMap() for shapefiles
Hi Jukka, Thanks for the advice. I was able to confirm through local testing that using "DATA" is consistently faster than using the OGR connection (was getting over 500 ms for OGR vs just over 300 ms for DATA). My results are also suggesting that performing the shapefile optimizations may make my request several hundredths of a second faster, I'm a little less sure on that one. But regardless, it appears that the bulk of the problem with the slow S3 connection is likely S3's overhead, so I don't think there's anything more I can do with MapServer to speed it up. Thanks again, Matt On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:58 AM Rahkonen Jukka < jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > Hi, > > > > You should test the same shapefiles locally for understanding where the > time gets spent. Normal time with simple styles is perhaps up to 300 ms. > The optimization hints were written long before there were S3 or Amazon > (the company). > > Unfortunately I don’t know how to optimize access to S3. > > > > -Jukka Rahkonen- > > > > *Lähettäjä:* MapServer-users > *Puolesta > *Matthew Graber via MapServer-users > *Lähetetty:* perjantai 8. joulukuuta 2023 21.47 > *Vastaanottaja:* mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org > *Aihe:* [MapServer-users] Speeding up msDrawMap() for shapefiles > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to speed up the time required for msDrawMap() to execute for > rendering shapefiles. Currently, according to the mapserver logs, it's > taking 2.5-3.5 seconds, sometimes up to 5 seconds for it to execute: > > > > [Wed Dec 6 18:43:47 2023].699791 CGI Request 53 on process 2641 > [Wed Dec 6 18:43:47 2023].717216 msDrawMap(): rendering using > outputformat named png (AGG/PNG). > [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299580 msDrawMap(): Layer 1010 > (Shapefile_Layer), 4.582s > [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299792 msDrawMap(): Drawing Label Cache, 0.000s > [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].299803 msDrawMap() total time: 4.584s > [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].310853 msSaveImage(stdout) total time: 0.011s > > [Wed Dec 6 18:43:52 2023].310883 mapserv request processing time > (msLoadMap not incl.): 4.611s > > > > The mapfile is currently set up using "CONNECTIONTYPE OGR" and > "CONNECTION" to access the shapefiles from an S3 bucket as follows: > > > > CONNECTIONTYPE OGR > CONNECTION'/vsis3/s3_bucket_path/my_shapefile%.shp' > > > > I noticed at https://mapserver.org/input/vector/shapefiles.html that it > says "Shapefile access is built directly into MapServer. It is also > available through OGR, but direct access without OGR is recommended and > discussed here." > > So I tried removing "CONNECTIONTYPE OGR" and changing "CONNECTION" to > "DATA" as follows: > > > > DATA'/vsis3/s3_bucket_path/my_shapefile%.shp' > > > > I haven't been able to observe any definitive speed improvements by doing > this yet, although I can't say for sure that there aren't any. > > > > Based on https://mapserver.org/optimization/vector.html, I also tried > using the shptree command to create a spatial index and the coshp command > to sort the shapefile and index. Even after doing that, I still see load > msDrawMap() times of up to 5 seconds. > > > > Does anyone know of any other optimizations that could be made here? Or if > not, would using shptree and coshp on the shapefile and then accessing it > in the mapfile using "DATA" to take it from S3 be the optimal way to set > things up? > > > > Thanks! > > Matt > ___ MapServer-users mailing list MapServer-users@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapserver-users
