[mapserver-users] Mapserver GDAL in various Linux repositories

2008-05-14 Thread William Kyngesburye
I'm trying to get a handle on installing Mapserver on different Linux  
systems, so I can make recommendations to clients for setting up  
systems with Mapserver.


For standard repositories for different Linux distributions, I see  
quite a variety of names and versions:


Ubuntu: I have 8.04 on my MacBook, so I could check this directly - I  
find MapServer 5.0.0 and GDAL 1.4.4.  A web package list gives me MS  
4.10 and GDAL 1.4.1 for 7.10.


Debian: the web package listing shows MS 4.10/GDAL 1.5.0 for etch, and  
MS 5.0.2/GDAL 1.5.1 for the upcoming lenny.


Redhat: I couldn't find a web interface to search for packages, but  
did find a reference to Redhat 5 which has MS 4.10 and GDAL 1.4.2.


The Mapserver download page has links to old Mapping Hacks RPMs, and a  
really old FGS bundle.


There's the FWTools, which is supposed to have the latest dev versions  
of MS and GDAL for almost any 32bit Linux, but I'm not sure I want to  
put dev versions into a production environment.



Any other ideas? - custom repositories with more up to date, or  
consistent across Linux systems, version?  Building from source would  
only be an option for the more savvy clients.  Maybe something similar  
to FWTools but with stable versions only?


I definitely want at least MapServer 5 (though I could live with 4.10  
in a pinch).  GDAL version is more flexible, though it would be good  
to have the newer Python bindings in 1.5.  Other support dependencies  
are less of a concern (except maybe PROJ).


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Re: [mapserver-users] Mapserver GDAL in various Linux repositories

2008-05-14 Thread Frank Warmerdam

William Kyngesburye wrote:
The Mapserver download page has links to old Mapping Hacks RPMs, and a 
really old FGS bundle.


There's the FWTools, which is supposed to have the latest dev versions 
of MS and GDAL for almost any 32bit Linux, but I'm not sure I want to 
put dev versions into a production environment.



Any other ideas? - custom repositories with more up to date, or 
consistent across Linux systems, version?  Building from source would 
only be an option for the more savvy clients.  Maybe something similar 
to FWTools but with stable versions only?


I definitely want at least MapServer 5 (though I could live with 4.10 in 
a pinch).  GDAL version is more flexible, though it would be good to 
have the newer Python bindings in 1.5.  Other support dependencies are 
less of a concern (except maybe PROJ).


William,

For system where you can't get reliable pre-made packages, I'd encourage use
of FGS.  It is intended for that role.  There has been a bunch of work recently
to update FGS to more recent versions of the various packages.

FGS could definately benefit from more assistance.

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Re: [mapserver-users] Mapserver GDAL in various Linux repositories

2008-05-14 Thread Daniel Morissette

William Kyngesburye wrote:


The Mapserver download page has links to old Mapping Hacks RPMs, and a 
really old FGS bundle.




With respect to FGS, there have been no official/public releases in 
quite a while, but we've continued to use it internally. Recently we've 
started putting more work towards a new public release and last week a 
1.0 release with the latest version of everything has been posted to the 
download site and mentioned on the FGS list, but unfortunately the 
website is still lagging behind.


Here is the relevant mailing list thread with the download/install info 
for FGS 1.0:

http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/foss-gis-suite/2008-May/000639.html

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RE: [mapserver-users] Mapserver GDAL in various Linux repositories

2008-05-14 Thread Gail Long
I can vouch for the HostGIS linux platform that the guys put out there.  I've 
used it for a couple of years now and as a base platform it would be very hard 
to beat!

Gregor and the guys do a great job of putting it together and their support is 
beyond compare.

They and their platform get a 10 out of 10 from me.

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Things are only difficult while you don't understand them.

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  Any other ideas? - custom repositories with more up to date, or 
  consistent across Linux systems, version?
   Maybe something similar
  to FWTools but with stable versions only?
 
 There's our own open-source product: HostGIS Linux
 http://www.hostgis.com/linux/
 We use it in production on both 32-bit and 64-bit platforms, with great 
 success.
 
 -- 
 Gregor Mosheh / Greg AllensworthBS, A+, Network+, Security+, Server+
 System Administrator, Lead Programmer
 HostGIS development  hosting services, http://www.HostGIS.com/
 
 Remember that no one cares if you can back up,
   only if you can restore. - AMANDA
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Re: [mapserver-users] Mapserver GDAL in various Linux repositories

2008-05-14 Thread Gregor Mosheh

Why, thank you Gail. That just brings out a smile.

FYI, I've started construction of HGL 4.3 so this is a great time to hit 
up the mailing list, and to send in requests and complaints about HGL 
4.2 The diffs will be about a dozen bugfixes, and mostly just good ol' 
package upgrades, and a lot of work toward package upgrades.


And now I'll quit spamming plugs for our own product. :)

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Re: [mapserver-users] Mapserver GDAL in various Linux repositories

2008-05-14 Thread William Kyngesburye

I vaguely remember this, but didn't pay much attention to it ;)

It would be good to update the FGS page to show which versions are  
included.


Are the FGS builds of Apache, PHP, Postgres, ... and basic libraries  
required for FGS MapServer GDAL, and other GIS tools and libraries?   
Or can they use system copies of these?  Clients may not be willing or  
able to install duplicate copies of stuff available at the same  
version in the system, especially on an existing server.


Also, are there plans for 64bit builds?

On May 14, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:


William Kyngesburye wrote:
The Mapserver download page has links to old Mapping Hacks RPMs,  
and a really old FGS bundle.


With respect to FGS, there have been no official/public releases in  
quite a while, but we've continued to use it internally. Recently  
we've started putting more work towards a new public release and  
last week a 1.0 release with the latest version of everything has  
been posted to the download site and mentioned on the FGS list, but  
unfortunately the website is still lagging behind.


Here is the relevant mailing list thread with the download/install  
info for FGS 1.0:
http://lists.maptools.org/pipermail/foss-gis-suite/2008-May/ 
000639.html


Daniel
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