Re: [mapserver-users] SVG, PDF and Flash output in MapServer 6.0.

2010-09-20 Thread Yewondwossen Assefa

 On 10/09/2010 4:08 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote:

Hi,

Thank you for your information on future plans about output based on 
Cairo.


Regarding the SVG support, my main concern is that if the output goes 
through Cairo than there is no chance of adding attributes and 
semantics to the vector features in SVG - am I correct? In SVG one 
could f.e. embed title and description elements, as well as non-graphical 


 That is correct from what I can see.
attributes in a separate namespace in the XML output. Now that SVG 
support will be widespread in all browsers (IE9 will be implementing 
SVG), I would assume that people would make more use of SVG output, 
also for interactive maps. In this setup it would be nice if one could 
have the option between a pure graphical output (probably the CAIRO 
output version) and a more semantically rich output (a separate output 
driver?) I would recommend to go with Cairo, but leave the door open 
for another, alternative output driver for more sophisticated SVG output.


 I agree with you that we would have more control on what we can output 
if we have a native MapServer svg driver.  I think adding a native SVG 
driver will always possible baring in mind that there is enough 
need/interest to add it and support it in the long term


Thanks for your feedback.

regards,


Regarding SWF: it would be better if Flash would die in the long run - 
it is not part of the open web and a black box. All browser project 
now seem committed to implement SVG and canvas. So I myself wouldn't 
care if you would drop SWF support. Other users may think different.


Just my two cents,
Andreas

On 9/10/10 5:09 PM, Yewondwossen Assefa wrote:

Hi all,

 The Dev team is reviewing and preparing for the 6.0 MapServer 
release [1][2].   There are significant changes and new features in 
this release. One of them is the rendering overhaul. The reasons 
behind is to facilitate the long term maintenance and make sure that 
all the output formats are in sync feature-wise.
Currently output drivers such as svg, pdf and flash lag in 
functionality and supported features compare to the AGG/GD output.
As part of  this re-factoring, the Cairo library [3] will be added 
allowing SVG and PDF outputs to pass through this library.  This 
would deprecate the current support of native svg and pdf in MapServer.


The other renderer that is affected is the SWF (Flash) renderer: at 
this point there is no effort to bring this output feature to the 
level of other renderers. This means that there is a big chance that 
the SWF support will not be part of the 6.0 release (unless someone 
wants to fund it).  Is this something that affects lots/some users?


best regards,


[1] http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/60ReleasePlan
[2] http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/60MigrationIssues
[3] http://cairographics.org/


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http://www.dmsolutions.ca/

Phone: (613) 565-5056 (ext 14)
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[mapserver-users] SVG, PDF and Flash output in MapServer 6.0.

2010-09-10 Thread Yewondwossen Assefa

 Hi all,

 The Dev team is reviewing and preparing for the 6.0 MapServer release 
[1][2].   There are significant changes and new features in this 
release. One of them is the rendering overhaul. The reasons behind is to 
facilitate the long term maintenance and make sure that all the output 
formats are in sync feature-wise.
Currently output drivers such as svg, pdf and flash lag in functionality 
and supported features compare to the AGG/GD output.
As part of  this re-factoring, the Cairo library [3] will be added 
allowing SVG and PDF outputs to pass through this library.  This would 
deprecate the current support of native svg and pdf in MapServer.


The other renderer that is affected is the SWF (Flash) renderer: at this 
point there is no effort to bring this output feature to the level of 
other renderers. This means that there is a big chance that the SWF 
support will not be part of the 6.0 release (unless someone wants to 
fund it).  Is this something that affects lots/some users?


best regards,


[1] http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/60ReleasePlan
[2] http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/60MigrationIssues
[3] http://cairographics.org/


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Software Analyst

Email: yass...@dmsolutions.ca
http://www.dmsolutions.ca/

Phone: (613) 565-5056 (ext 14)
Fax:   (613) 565-0925



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Re: [mapserver-users] SVG, PDF and Flash output in MapServer 6.0.

2010-09-10 Thread Andreas Neumann

 Hi,

Thank you for your information on future plans about output based on Cairo.

Regarding the SVG support, my main concern is that if the output goes 
through Cairo than there is no chance of adding attributes and semantics 
to the vector features in SVG - am I correct? In SVG one could f.e. 
embed title and description elements, as well as non-graphical 
attributes in a separate namespace in the XML output. Now that SVG 
support will be widespread in all browsers (IE9 will be implementing 
SVG), I would assume that people would make more use of SVG output, also 
for interactive maps. In this setup it would be nice if one could have 
the option between a pure graphical output (probably the CAIRO output 
version) and a more semantically rich output (a separate output driver?) 
I would recommend to go with Cairo, but leave the door open for another, 
alternative output driver for more sophisticated SVG output.


Regarding SWF: it would be better if Flash would die in the long run - 
it is not part of the open web and a black box. All browser project now 
seem committed to implement SVG and canvas. So I myself wouldn't care if 
you would drop SWF support. Other users may think different.


Just my two cents,
Andreas

On 9/10/10 5:09 PM, Yewondwossen Assefa wrote:

Hi all,

 The Dev team is reviewing and preparing for the 6.0 MapServer release 
[1][2].   There are significant changes and new features in this 
release. One of them is the rendering overhaul. The reasons behind is 
to facilitate the long term maintenance and make sure that all the 
output formats are in sync feature-wise.
Currently output drivers such as svg, pdf and flash lag in 
functionality and supported features compare to the AGG/GD output.
As part of  this re-factoring, the Cairo library [3] will be added 
allowing SVG and PDF outputs to pass through this library.  This would 
deprecate the current support of native svg and pdf in MapServer.


The other renderer that is affected is the SWF (Flash) renderer: at 
this point there is no effort to bring this output feature to the 
level of other renderers. This means that there is a big chance that 
the SWF support will not be part of the 6.0 release (unless someone 
wants to fund it).  Is this something that affects lots/some users?


best regards,


[1] http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/60ReleasePlan
[2] http://trac.osgeo.org/mapserver/wiki/60MigrationIssues
[3] http://cairographics.org/


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Assefa Yewondwossen
Software Analyst

Email:yass...@dmsolutions.ca
http://www.dmsolutions.ca/

Phone: (613) 565-5056 (ext 14)
Fax:   (613) 565-0925




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