Re: [mapserver-users] deployed mapping engine comparison stats

2020-06-16 Thread Steve Lime 
That's probably a result of what drove MapServer development early on.
MapServer itself is just a binary (CGI/FCGI) that can do stuff as simple as
making simple inset maps or scalebars to distributing maps and data using
OGC services with plenty of variations in between. Each call is discrete
and there are no long running processes. A single deployment could serve
dozens of wide-ranging purposes and in that situation a catalog makes no
sense. Those "purposes" often only make sense with the context of the
application that uses them. Closest thing to a catalog would be
GetCapability responses. Then of course you have MapScript applications
that would be difficult, if not impossible, to identify as being related to
MapServer.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:56 AM Jonathan Moules <
jonathan-li...@lightpear.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> (Disclosure: I'm the person behind that blog post.)
>
> > I wonder how this statistics would look like if MapServer had a built-in
> web administration interface like the other competing applications.
>
> The fact MS is so high without it shows it may not be that important, at
> least not to the core audience.
>
> I think the biggest differentiator in the stats between the top three may
> be the fact that MapServers don't have any sort of catalog of services or
> other way to find other services on the box. By which I mean, ArcGIS Server
> allows you to crawl it and get all of the public services and datasets.
> GeoServer if there are namespaces (their way of grouping things into
> services) you can go up a level and see what the root is serving, thus
> potentially finding more datasets and another service that way (but only
> one). But MapServer doesn't have a mechanism like that apparently (I asked
> on this list a couple years ago), which means that it's hard to know if
> I've found everything on a specific box. That's the biggest catch with the
> MapServer stat at least.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On 2020-06-05 20:28, Tamas Szekeres wrote:
>
> Very interesting comparison.
> I wonder how this statistics would look like if MapServer had a built-in
> web administration interface like the other competing applications.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Tamas
>
>
> Jeff McKenna  ezt írta (időpont: 2020.
> jún. 5., P, 18:09):
>
>> Something I noticed this morning: MapServer users might be interested in
>> recently published statistics of deployed mapping engine types (ArcGIS,
>> GeoServer, MapServer/MapCache, QGIS Server, etc.) :
>> https://www.geoseer.net/blog/?p=2020-06-04_geospatial_server_software
>>
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> MapServer Consulting and Training Services
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Re: [mapserver-users] deployed mapping engine comparison stats

2020-06-06 Thread Jonathan Moules 

Hi Folks,

(Disclosure: I'm the person behind that blog post.)

> I wonder how this statistics would look like if MapServer had a 
built-in web administration interface like the other competing applications.


The fact MS is so high without it shows it may not be that important, at 
least not to the core audience.


I think the biggest differentiator in the stats between the top three 
may be the fact that MapServers don't have any sort of catalog of 
services or other way to find other services on the box. By which I 
mean, ArcGIS Server allows you to crawl it and get all of the public 
services and datasets. GeoServer if there are namespaces (their way of 
grouping things into services) you can go up a level and see what the 
root is serving, thus potentially finding more datasets and another 
service that way (but only one). But MapServer doesn't have a mechanism 
like that apparently (I asked on this list a couple years ago), which 
means that it's hard to know if I've found everything on a specific box. 
That's the biggest catch with the MapServer stat at least.


Cheers,

Jonathan


On 2020-06-05 20:28, Tamas Szekeres wrote:

Very interesting comparison.
I wonder how this statistics would look like if MapServer had a 
built-in web administration interface like the other competing 
applications.


Best regards,

Tamas


Jeff McKenna > ezt írta (időpont: 2020. jún. 
5., P, 18:09):


Something I noticed this morning: MapServer users might be
interested in
recently published statistics of deployed mapping engine types
(ArcGIS,
GeoServer, MapServer/MapCache, QGIS Server, etc.) :
https://www.geoseer.net/blog/?p=2020-06-04_geospatial_server_software


-jeff




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Re: [mapserver-users] deployed mapping engine comparison stats

2020-06-05 Thread Tamas Szekeres 
Very interesting comparison.
I wonder how this statistics would look like if MapServer had a built-in
web administration interface like the other competing applications.

Best regards,

Tamas


Jeff McKenna  ezt írta (időpont: 2020. jún.
5., P, 18:09):

> Something I noticed this morning: MapServer users might be interested in
> recently published statistics of deployed mapping engine types (ArcGIS,
> GeoServer, MapServer/MapCache, QGIS Server, etc.) :
> https://www.geoseer.net/blog/?p=2020-06-04_geospatial_server_software
>
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff McKenna
> MapServer Consulting and Training Services
> co-founder of FOSS4G
> http://gatewaygeo.com/
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Re: [mapserver-users] deployed mapping engine comparison stats

2020-06-05 Thread Steve Lime 
We're number 3!

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:09 AM Jeff McKenna 
wrote:

> Something I noticed this morning: MapServer users might be interested in
> recently published statistics of deployed mapping engine types (ArcGIS,
> GeoServer, MapServer/MapCache, QGIS Server, etc.) :
> https://www.geoseer.net/blog/?p=2020-06-04_geospatial_server_software
>
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff McKenna
> MapServer Consulting and Training Services
> co-founder of FOSS4G
> http://gatewaygeo.com/
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[mapserver-users] deployed mapping engine comparison stats

2020-06-05 Thread Jeff McKenna 
Something I noticed this morning: MapServer users might be interested in 
recently published statistics of deployed mapping engine types (ArcGIS, 
GeoServer, MapServer/MapCache, QGIS Server, etc.) : 
https://www.geoseer.net/blog/?p=2020-06-04_geospatial_server_software



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