Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Media Contacts for TDF
Hi, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote on 2011-06-08 16.15: Maybe we could join what Florian and Simon suggested into one idea. Regarding to what Italo said about qualified people for TDF as an legal entity, I think it's a decision that belongs to the organization. Sometimes the border, between the organization and the real community is very blur, and that can cause some confusion. I agree, but if we communicate this accordingly, things should work out. Having a hand full of official TDF legal entity representants, plus more people for LibreOffice community and project. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] New Member
Hi, Klaibson Ribeiro wrote on 2011-06-08 23.41: My name is Klaibson and yesterday me signed up in the LibreOffice in the FreeDesktop. welcome, great to have you with us! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Interesting
On 6/9/11 3:07 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I wonder what really is going with the first 2 links listed. Links to articles are just FYI, and are not supposed to start another discussion. They express opinions of journalists and companies, and reflect outside perceptions. It is rather important to know them, but I don't see any reason to comment here, as the journalists are not reading. -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Media Contacts for TDF
2011/6/9 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hi, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote on 2011-06-08 16.15: Maybe we could join what Florian and Simon suggested into one idea. Regarding to what Italo said about qualified people for TDF as an legal entity, I think it's a decision that belongs to the organization. Sometimes the border, between the organization and the real community is very blur, and that can cause some confusion. I agree, but if we communicate this accordingly, things should work out. Having a hand full of official TDF legal entity representants, plus more people for LibreOffice community and project. +1 Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Interesting
On 06/09/2011 04:20 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 6/9/11 3:07 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I wonder what really is going with the first 2 links listed. Links to articles are just FYI, and are not supposed to start another discussion. They express opinions of journalists and companies, and reflect outside perceptions. It is rather important to know them, but I don't see any reason to comment here, as the journalists are not reading. OK I thought you wanted comments on what they stated. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] address changes DELAYED
Hello, sadly, a project caught me longer today than I thought, and I will have to work probably one or two more hours on it, which means that I cannot manage the address change for the lists today. So, the address change for the lists will be DELAYED I am sorry, the project came in quite unexpectedly, but sometimes real life needs time, too. :-) I will try to do the address change as soon as possible, and follow-up on this lists soon. In the meantime, simply use the current addresses. Sorry for the inconveniences, Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] address change working
Hi, I managed the first change of the addresses. 1. The archives from listarchives.libreoffice.org/www are now available at listarchives.libreoffice.org/global, with an automatic redirection in place 2. The lists previously available @libreoffice.org are available now at @global.libreoffice.org, with the old addresses working for a few more days (but will vanish soon) 3. The headers have been modified, so chances are you have to adjust your e-mail program filters. 4. The e-mail footers have been modified as well. I will take care of the mail archives and GMANE tomorrow. If you run into any issues, please let me know. Things should work, but I'm not finished yet, so the rest will follow tomorrow. Thanks, Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Interesting
Hi :) This notion of bad blood between LO and OOo Communities seems completely the opposite of what i have seen so far. Interesting articles but i don't entirely agree with everything of course. I tried to post a comment for the IT World one Hi :) All good except I don't think there is bad blood between the OpenOffice Community and LibreOffice Community. On the contrary they seem to work together well and happily. The problem has been the owners of OpenOffice. Oracle were unable to block collaboration between the 2 communities as they were unable to break the tight links of friendships and camaraderie that has built-up over 10years and more. In many ways it is still 1 community but now with 2 products and a large influx of new people doing great work. Regards from Tom :) Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com To: market...@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 9 June, 2011 2:07:01 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Interesting On 06/08/2011 05:05 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: Brian Proffitt http://www.itworld.com/software/172393/plea-save-openofficeorg-apache mentioning http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=2567 Steven Vaughan-Nichols http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/libreoffice-motors-right-along-with-a-new-release/9048 8 I wonder what really is going with the first 2 links listed. Something does not make sense to me. Is he for and against the vote being yes or no. I have not sure who is voting and on what. Is it that OOo is going to Apache or is it the license issue[s]? Some of the blog's list seems to swing both ways. I just do not know what is actually being said. For me, I did not know about the Java vs. Python issues between OOo and LO. Since I have been out of the programming field for many years, I do not know why Python might be the better way of dealing with the code base for LO instead of using Java. So beyond the people who can tell me why it was done, it would make sense for the future of sharing code between the two projects to use the same coding resources. The thing to me is that LO coders have done a lot of things to fix the code that Oracle [and maybe Sun] could not do with their paid people. You cannot pay people to rewrite the old code and still see it as progress in the project's development. If you are not being paid, you will look at the old code and say this is where some problems are and it need to be fixed, so it is now going to be fixed. So LO coders have recoded parts of what came from OOo and made it better. They are still doing this, along with adding to the suite. That is what I found so interesting with some of the early articles about the difference between OOo 3.3.0 and LO 3.3.0. TDF/LO fixed a lot of things that Oracle/OOo did not bother to do and still TDF/LO put out a better version and sooner than Oracle/OOo did. TDF/LO is still working to put out a better product as well as fixing all that code that was not worth fixing and was what other parts of the suite was built upon. The old saying of building a house on a foundation of sand is a good one. TDF/LO are working on replacing the foundation of sand with something that is more solid. That is what I understand is the real benefit of TDF/LO over Oracle/OOo and that is what I wonder about for the Apache/OOo work to come. Will Apache want to spend the time, money, and manpower to fix the foundation[s] of OOo code the way TDF/LO has done and will continue to do. How long will house fall down and crash if the foundation is not made more solid? Then there is fact that if TDF/LO continues to take the market share away from OOo, how long will Apache want to continue with it. Oracle sure dumped OOo quickly when articles announced that LO was better than OOo and most Linux distros went with LO as their default over OOo, which was the default for how many years? My opinion is that if Apache does not put the manpower [i.e. a lot of money] into their OOo project, it will die a bad death. But, what company can spend its manpower, even if it is free, on one more project that takes it away from their core project/product. TDF only project/product is LO and all its resources, manpower and money, is dedicated to making this project the best office suite it can be. Apache has other projects that are more important to it than OOo. That can be a bad thing. So, for me, I went from OOo to LO and am doing all I can to get people to switch to it. I think it is a better product. I think it is the right thing to do by fixing the old code that other code may use or need, and get rid of the code that no longer is used but still in the lines of code that is used in the compiling process. It could have been great if LO got OOo's branding so LO could continue on with making LO better and better and bring OOo along with all that better coding being shared
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] address changes DELAYED
Hi, Em 09-06-2011 12:16, Florian Effenberger escreveu: Hello, sadly, a project caught me longer today than I thought, and I will have to work probably one or two more hours on it, which means that I cannot manage the address change for the lists today. So, the address change for the lists will be DELAYED I am sorry, the project came in quite unexpectedly, but sometimes real life needs time, too. :-) I will try to do the address change as soon as possible, and follow-up on this lists soon. In the meantime, simply use the current addresses. First things first, Florian. I don't see change as a priority number zero. We can wait a little longer! Luiz Oliveira identi.ca/luiggi -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] address changes DELAYED
Hi, Luiz Carlos wrote on 2011-06-09 18.17: First things first, Florian. I don't see change as a priority number zero. We can wait a little longer! thanks a lot. :-) First round is done, rest will be done tomorrow. Thanks for your kind words! Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Interesting
From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com To: market...@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 9 June, 2011 2:07:01 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Interesting On 06/08/2011 05:05 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: Brian Proffitt http://www.itworld.com/software/172393/plea-save-openofficeorg-apache mentioning http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=2567 Steven Vaughan-Nichols http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/libreoffice-motors-right-along-with-a-new-release/9048 8 I wonder what really is going with the first 2 links listed. Something does not make sense to me. Is he for and against the vote being yes or no. I have not sure who is voting and on what. Is it that OOo is going to Apache or is it the license issue[s]? Some of the blog's list seems to swing both ways. I just do not know what is actually being said. For me, I did not know about the Java vs. Python issues between OOo and LO. Since I have been out of the programming field for many years, I do not know why Python might be the better way of dealing with the code base for LO instead of using Java. So beyond the people who can tell me why it was done, it would make sense for the future of sharing code between the two projects to use the same coding resources. The thing to me is that LO coders have done a lot of things to fix the code that Oracle [and maybe Sun] could not do with their paid people. You cannot pay people to rewrite the old code and still see it as progress in the project's development. If you are not being paid, you will look at the old code and say this is where some problems are and it need to be fixed, so it is now going to be fixed. So LO coders have recoded parts of what came from OOo and made it better. They are still doing this, along with adding to the suite. That is what I found so interesting with some of the early articles about the difference between OOo 3.3.0 and LO 3.3.0. TDF/LO fixed a lot of things that Oracle/OOo did not bother to do and still TDF/LO put out a better version and sooner than Oracle/OOo did. TDF/LO is still working to put out a better product as well as fixing all that code that was not worth fixing and was what other parts of the suite was built upon. The old saying of building a house on a foundation of sand is a good one. TDF/LO are working on replacing the foundation of sand with something that is more solid. That is what I understand is the real benefit of TDF/LO over Oracle/OOo and that is what I wonder about for the Apache/OOo work to come. Will Apache want to spend the time, money, and manpower to fix the foundation[s] of OOo code the way TDF/LO has done and will continue to do. How long will house fall down and crash if the foundation is not made more solid? Then there is fact that if TDF/LO continues to take the market share away from OOo, how long will Apache want to continue with it. Oracle sure dumped OOo quickly when articles announced that LO was better than OOo and most Linux distros went with LO as their default over OOo, which was the default for how many years? My opinion is that if Apache does not put the manpower [i.e. a lot of money] into their OOo project, it will die a bad death. But, what company can spend its manpower, even if it is free, on one more project that takes it away from their core project/product. TDF only project/product is LO and all its resources, manpower and money, is dedicated to making this project the best office suite it can be. Apache has other projects that are more important to it than OOo. That can be a bad thing. So, for me, I went from OOo to LO and am doing all I can to get people to switch to it. I think it is a better product. I think it is the right thing to do by fixing the old code that other code may use or need, and get rid of the code that no longer is used but still in the lines of code that is used in the compiling process. It could have been great if LO got OOo's branding so LO could continue on with making LO better and better and bring OOo along with all that better coding being shared back and forth freely and easily. In the end, if LO and OOo end up unable to share all of its fixes and advances, one of the suites will end up far behind. I do not think it will be LO. Hi :) +1 Perhaps this would make a good article in it's own right? I think one reason for moving to Python is that Java is proprietary and buggy. Ok, 2 reasons ... Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Important magazine in Brazil now hold a special section on LibreOffice
Hi, We are delighted to inform you that we have now a special LibreOffice section in the Brazilian magazine “Espirito Livre” where we are publishing many information regarding LibreOffice and the Document Foundation in Brazil, tips, tutorials and much more. The magazine, writen in Brazilian Portuguese, is specialized in FLOSS matters and is published monthly by a team of specializeed volunteers. You can donwload it at http://va.mu/PIY Kudos to João Fernando for his endeavour. The magazine has now 127 pages and is a reference for many IT professionals that uses FLOSS as a business solution. Happy reading. Cheers. Eliane -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Important magazine in Brazil now hold a special section on LibreOffice
Le 2011-06-09 21:28, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit : Hi, We are delighted to inform you that we have now a special LibreOffice section in the Brazilian magazine “Espirito Livre” where we are publishing many information regarding LibreOffice and the Document Foundation in Brazil, tips, tutorials and much more. The magazine, writen in Brazilian Portuguese, is specialized in FLOSS matters and is published monthly by a team of specializeed volunteers. You can donwload it at http://va.mu/PIY Kudos to João Fernando for his endeavour. The magazine has now 127 pages and is a reference for many IT professionals that uses FLOSS as a business solution. Happy reading. Cheers. Eliane Congratulations and thanks to all of the staff at Espirito Livre for their support. Espirito Livre is quite an impressive magazine. Thanks as well to you, Eliane, for representing LibreOffice. Love the photos! Cheers Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
