[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Preparing announcement of the 3.4.2 release

2011-07-26 Thread Christian Lohmaier
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 11:23 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
     As explained in my initial mail, the term came up in the discussion
 around the 3.4.0 release. Since we say that a point-zero release
 definitely is not to be used in enterprise environments, that also hold
 the expectation that we can advise a later version as such.

 If the criteria is a rule of thumb of avoid automatically switching over
 to X.Y.Z where Z == 0, then that's fair enough, seeing as that's a sort
 of global rule of thumb for software :-)

But obviously not enough. The bug that made MS-Office flag LO-produced
files as corrupt for example is one of those bugs that prevent use in
business when you have to exchange ms-office formats, thus 3.4.1 still
deserves that warning.

     If you see it as exact science: yes. But I do not see labelling a
 version as 'enterprise ready' as that.

 Hmm, exact science sounds so much better to me than arbitrary
 gut-feeling.

Forget about the term. Think of it as would have been the version
released in OOo times with the known bugs.
That ultimately is what we are compared with after all (and people
already forgot about 2.0, so don't take that as an example)

And now to the decision: How should the release be flagged on the download-page?
* yellow exclamation mark/warning as it is now.
http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/warning.png
* blue info / i icon
http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/information.png
* green tick/OK icon like 3.3.3
http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/tick.png
* other (please specify): __

Or put it more simple:
Do you recommend users to update to 3.4.2 or do you still refer to it
as for early-adaptors/curious users

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Preparing announcement of the 3.4.2 release

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Christian,

On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:18 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 But obviously not enough. The bug that made MS-Office flag LO-produced
 files as corrupt for example is one of those bugs that prevent use in

Sure sure - the real hope is that (once we are clean with it - still
work to do there) - we can use Microsoft's new binary document format
validator to automatically regression test this. Sadly the thing is not
open-source, so we can't easily use it except on Windows, but ... hey.

 Forget about the term. Think of it as would have been the version
 released in OOo times with the known bugs.

:-) that is hard to judge; people's memory gets rosier and rosier with
the passage of time, there were some pretty hideous bugs we shipped with
I think.

 And now to the decision: How should the release be flagged on the 
 download-page?
 * yellow exclamation mark/warning as it is now.
 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/warning.png

So - not that :-)

 * blue info / i icon
 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/information.png

Looks great to me. I suggest we also put it at the top of the page as
well.

 * green tick/OK icon like 3.3.3
 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/tick.png
 * other (please specify): __

:-) we can keep green for the ultra-stable release I guess.

How does that sound ? :-)

ATB,

Michael.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Preparing announcement of the 3.4.2 release

2011-07-26 Thread Tom Davies




From: Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com
To: Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+libreoff...@googlemail.com
Cc: Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com; Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl; 
marketing@global.libreoffice.org; libreoffice-dev 
libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org
Sent: Tue, 26 July, 2011 12:59:43
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Preparing announcement of 
the 
3.4.2 release

Hi Christian,

On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:18 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 But obviously not enough. The bug that made MS-Office flag LO-produced
 files as corrupt for example is one of those bugs that prevent use in

Sure sure - the real hope is that (once we are clean with it - still
work to do there) - we can use Microsoft's new binary document format
validator to automatically regression test this. Sadly the thing is not
open-source, so we can't easily use it except on Windows, but ... hey.

 Forget about the term. Think of it as would have been the version
 released in OOo times with the known bugs.

:-) that is hard to judge; people's memory gets rosier and rosier with
the passage of time, there were some pretty hideous bugs we shipped with
I think.

 And now to the decision: How should the release be flagged on the 
download-page?
 * yellow exclamation mark/warning as it is now.
 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/warning.png

So - not that :-)

 * blue info / i icon
 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/information.png

Looks great to me. I suggest we also put it at the top of the page as
well.

 * green tick/OK icon like 3.3.3
 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/tick.png
 * other (please specify): __

:-) we can keep green for the ultra-stable release I guess.

How does that sound ? :-)

ATB,

Michael.

michael.me...@novell.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot



Hi :)
I thought there wa a red triangle with a white exclamation mark in it at one 
point?  Perhaps a yellow triangle?  In the Uk the red triangle would fit with 
warning signs used along roads.  I like the green tick.  It looks warm and 
friendly.  

Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-marketing] [India] Filing your returns with LibreOffice

2011-07-26 Thread Danishka Navin
Back in 2009, we at DeepRoot discussed this sorry state of affairs. While
celebrating 62 years of Independence in our country, we decided to take up
the challenge of making this facility available to those without MS Excel.
We decided to provide it for OpenOffice, a platform independent, freely
downloadable office suite. Thanks to Mr Abhas Abhinav, CEO of DeepRoot, I
was given the task of migrating the spreadsheet in office hours. This year
2011, I once again took up the migration work and form ITR1 is once again
available for download for OpenOffice / LibreOffice.

http://freedom-matters.in/itr_forms

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