[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Preparing announcement of the 3.4.2 release
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 11:23 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: As explained in my initial mail, the term came up in the discussion around the 3.4.0 release. Since we say that a point-zero release definitely is not to be used in enterprise environments, that also hold the expectation that we can advise a later version as such. If the criteria is a rule of thumb of avoid automatically switching over to X.Y.Z where Z == 0, then that's fair enough, seeing as that's a sort of global rule of thumb for software :-) But obviously not enough. The bug that made MS-Office flag LO-produced files as corrupt for example is one of those bugs that prevent use in business when you have to exchange ms-office formats, thus 3.4.1 still deserves that warning. If you see it as exact science: yes. But I do not see labelling a version as 'enterprise ready' as that. Hmm, exact science sounds so much better to me than arbitrary gut-feeling. Forget about the term. Think of it as would have been the version released in OOo times with the known bugs. That ultimately is what we are compared with after all (and people already forgot about 2.0, so don't take that as an example) And now to the decision: How should the release be flagged on the download-page? * yellow exclamation mark/warning as it is now. http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/warning.png * blue info / i icon http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/information.png * green tick/OK icon like 3.3.3 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/tick.png * other (please specify): __ Or put it more simple: Do you recommend users to update to 3.4.2 or do you still refer to it as for early-adaptors/curious users ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Preparing announcement of the 3.4.2 release
Hi Christian, On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:18 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: But obviously not enough. The bug that made MS-Office flag LO-produced files as corrupt for example is one of those bugs that prevent use in Sure sure - the real hope is that (once we are clean with it - still work to do there) - we can use Microsoft's new binary document format validator to automatically regression test this. Sadly the thing is not open-source, so we can't easily use it except on Windows, but ... hey. Forget about the term. Think of it as would have been the version released in OOo times with the known bugs. :-) that is hard to judge; people's memory gets rosier and rosier with the passage of time, there were some pretty hideous bugs we shipped with I think. And now to the decision: How should the release be flagged on the download-page? * yellow exclamation mark/warning as it is now. http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/warning.png So - not that :-) * blue info / i icon http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/information.png Looks great to me. I suggest we also put it at the top of the page as well. * green tick/OK icon like 3.3.3 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/tick.png * other (please specify): __ :-) we can keep green for the ultra-stable release I guess. How does that sound ? :-) ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Preparing announcement of the 3.4.2 release
From: Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com To: Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+libreoff...@googlemail.com Cc: Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com; Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl; marketing@global.libreoffice.org; libreoffice-dev libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org Sent: Tue, 26 July, 2011 12:59:43 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Preparing announcement of the 3.4.2 release Hi Christian, On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:18 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: But obviously not enough. The bug that made MS-Office flag LO-produced files as corrupt for example is one of those bugs that prevent use in Sure sure - the real hope is that (once we are clean with it - still work to do there) - we can use Microsoft's new binary document format validator to automatically regression test this. Sadly the thing is not open-source, so we can't easily use it except on Windows, but ... hey. Forget about the term. Think of it as would have been the version released in OOo times with the known bugs. :-) that is hard to judge; people's memory gets rosier and rosier with the passage of time, there were some pretty hideous bugs we shipped with I think. And now to the decision: How should the release be flagged on the download-page? * yellow exclamation mark/warning as it is now. http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/warning.png So - not that :-) * blue info / i icon http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/information.png Looks great to me. I suggest we also put it at the top of the page as well. * green tick/OK icon like 3.3.3 http://www.libreoffice.org/themes/libo/images/tick.png * other (please specify): __ :-) we can keep green for the ultra-stable release I guess. How does that sound ? :-) ATB, Michael. michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot Hi :) I thought there wa a red triangle with a white exclamation mark in it at one point? Perhaps a yellow triangle? In the Uk the red triangle would fit with warning signs used along roads. I like the green tick. It looks warm and friendly. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] [India] Filing your returns with LibreOffice
Back in 2009, we at DeepRoot discussed this sorry state of affairs. While celebrating 62 years of Independence in our country, we decided to take up the challenge of making this facility available to those without MS Excel. We decided to provide it for OpenOffice, a platform independent, freely downloadable office suite. Thanks to Mr Abhas Abhinav, CEO of DeepRoot, I was given the task of migrating the spreadsheet in office hours. This year 2011, I once again took up the migration work and form ITR1 is once again available for download for OpenOffice / LibreOffice. http://freedom-matters.in/itr_forms -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://identi.ca/danishka http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted