Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Italo's announcement re: LibO online and link
On 10/14/11 4:36 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Italo just announced the coming of LibO online (on the announce mailing list), but, he also added a link. I just wanted to ask some of you to check the link. Could people check if the link works for you? Here is the link. Please refer to my announcements as TDF announcements. Being the media contact, I am always speaking on behalf of TDF, unless clearly stated. Thanks, Italo -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Italo's announcement re: LibO online and link
Le 2011-10-16 04:00, Italo Vignoli a écrit : On 10/14/11 4:36 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Italo just announced the coming of LibO online (on the announce mailing list), but, he also added a link. I just wanted to ask some of you to check the link. Could people check if the link works for you? Here is the link. Please refer to my announcements as TDF announcements. Being the media contact, I am always speaking on behalf of TDF, unless clearly stated. Thanks, Italo Thanks for the reminder. Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal
Hi :) I think it might be good to forward this to OASIS. THey already have collaboration between various projects to produce OpenDocument Format specifications. I think that is part of what is being called for here? A specification that can be shared by the various existing OpenSource office applications? Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 14/10/11, timofonic timofonic timofo...@gmail.com wrote: From: timofonic timofonic timofo...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 14 October, 2011, 16:04 Hello to everyone. I'm just an user of LibreOffice, no developer at all. But I think maybe this can be an interesting discussion with the more skilled people involved into the project. Since the apparition of SubEthaEdit for Macs, the real-time collaborative editing (from now on referred as RTCE) started to rise from these days. The Web 2.0 phonomenom made RTCE even more known with Writely and EtherPad, then Google bought both (but EhterPad now remains as a FOSS project) to integrate resources to the Google Docs online Office suite. There are editors that already support RTCE, like AbiWord (by using AbiCollab extension), ACE, Emacs (by extensions like Rudel or others) and Gobby. Unfortunately there aren't a strong open standard protocol shared among them, so interoperability is a big issue there. RTCE is something thinked before in OpenOffice and seems also taken in account in LibreOffice as future ideas to develop, but the approach and ideas behind it were primitive or their importance is still not enough considered. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas#Simple_server-based_collaborative_editing There's an open RTCE protocol named Infinote ( http://infinote.org ), a redesign of the Obby protocol that is part of Gobby and implemented in libinfinity. There's a server implementation named Infinoted and the protocol is already user by some third party applications but the popularity is quite low at this moment. There's jarn.xmpp.collaboration (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/jarn.xmpp.collaboration), a XMPP protocol extension targeted at RTCE. The protocol is still quite young, but still actively developed. The use of an open protocol standard would not just help interoperability between different projects, but also improve the protocol for being more flexible and powerful over time in the same way of ODF. While interoperability with existing projects is very cool and nice, this isn't going to resolve the issue in the long term. Those projects will stay incompatible between them, and each new project may choose a new protocol that LibreOffice developers would need to implement it. I understand an initiative like this isn't easy at all, because it's not only developing a powerful and well documented RTCE protocol. Like in the example of Infinote, that means nothing if the protocol isn't adopted and promoted widely by other related projects. This is a proposal from the user point of view, but I hope to make some people think about it. In my opinion this could be a killer app for LibreOffice and also gain popularity in education/business/government environments too. I'm supossing this concept would require developer efforts, lots of PR, contacting with other organizations and such. Make people agree on standards seems not easy, but I think is possible if people do the necessary effort (as showed in ODF). With a bit of research from my illiterate perspective, I already found other theorical and practical proposals and experiments on RTCE. So I think more skilled people can investigate further on the tecnical side of this if there's enough interest on it. Please think about this proposal and give your opinions. I hope my thinking can be at least a bit useful to the community to start an interesting discussion about the topic. Regards. PS: I think this can be even more interesting to investigate from now on since the appearing of the LibreOffice Online project. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Italo's announcement re: LibO online and link
Hi :) The original link doesn't work for me Ubuntu 10.04 (or 10.10) Vlc, Totem. The YouTube is great tho. Great stuff, good to see :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 14/10/11, C. Olofson c.olof...@gmail.com wrote: From: C. Olofson c.olof...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Italo's announcement re: LibO online and link To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 14 October, 2011, 15:41 The linky works for me (ubuntu vlc) but, for redistribution, it looks like Florian has the answer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVR7HqDokmA Excellent developments! -Craig On 10/14/2011 07:36 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Italo just announced the coming of LibO online (on the announce mailing list), but, he also added a link. I just wanted to ask some of you to check the link. Could people check if the link works for you? Here is the link. http://people.gnome.org/~michael/data/2011-10-10-lool-demo.webm I am running it through VLC. We should make sure that people can see the video without any problems. Cheers, Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] IT Certification
Hi :) Fantastic! Good to see. I wish i had noticed this earlier as we just had a question about Certification. I think someone is working on a large project in Venezuela and someone else on another large project in Sri Lanka. Are there plans for Certification in LibreOffice that is global rather than 'only' at national in a few countries? I thought the Paris Conference was going to announce something? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 13/10/11, Eliane Domingos de Sousa elianedomin...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eliane Domingos de Sousa elianedomin...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Espirito Livre Magazine - issue 30 released To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 13 October, 2011, 1:54 Dear all, I would like to announce the release of Espirito Livre Magazine issue 30. The theme this month is: IT Certification. In this Magazine there are pages dedicated to LibreOffice and one of them is specially about the first anniversary. Download: http://goo.gl/5Emqs Kind regards -- Eliane Domingos de Sousa gtalk/skype: elianedomingos twitter: eliane_domingos identica/facebook: elianedomingos -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal
Hello. It's just an idea I want to promote, because I think it can be more interesting than some people think. Anyone can foorward the idea I expressed to anyone that can help to make it reality, I just want to become reality as an user of Libreoffice and other text editors. OASIS seems a good candidate for this, even other office suites or advanced text editors. The point of RTCE is not just for office applications, but any text editor targeted at not just very simple functionality. So this can be a wide standard in terms of possible adoption, and maybe even add interoperability with online projects like EtherPad. Regards. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think it might be good to forward this to OASIS. THey already have collaboration between various projects to produce OpenDocument Format specifications. I think that is part of what is being called for here? A specification that can be shared by the various existing OpenSource office applications? Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 14/10/11, timofonic timofonic timofo...@gmail.com wrote: From: timofonic timofonic timofo...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] What about Real-time collaborative editing (RTCE) in LibreOffice? A simple user POW proposal To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 14 October, 2011, 16:04 Hello to everyone. I'm just an user of LibreOffice, no developer at all. But I think maybe this can be an interesting discussion with the more skilled people involved into the project. Since the apparition of SubEthaEdit for Macs, the real-time collaborative editing (from now on referred as RTCE) started to rise from these days. The Web 2.0 phonomenom made RTCE even more known with Writely and EtherPad, then Google bought both (but EhterPad now remains as a FOSS project) to integrate resources to the Google Docs online Office suite. There are editors that already support RTCE, like AbiWord (by using AbiCollab extension), ACE, Emacs (by extensions like Rudel or others) and Gobby. Unfortunately there aren't a strong open standard protocol shared among them, so interoperability is a big issue there. RTCE is something thinked before in OpenOffice and seems also taken in account in LibreOffice as future ideas to develop, but the approach and ideas behind it were primitive or their importance is still not enough considered. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas#Simple_server-based_collaborative_editing There's an open RTCE protocol named Infinote ( http://infinote.org ), a redesign of the Obby protocol that is part of Gobby and implemented in libinfinity. There's a server implementation named Infinoted and the protocol is already user by some third party applications but the popularity is quite low at this moment. There's jarn.xmpp.collaboration (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/jarn.xmpp.collaboration), a XMPP protocol extension targeted at RTCE. The protocol is still quite young, but still actively developed. The use of an open protocol standard would not just help interoperability between different projects, but also improve the protocol for being more flexible and powerful over time in the same way of ODF. While interoperability with existing projects is very cool and nice, this isn't going to resolve the issue in the long term. Those projects will stay incompatible between them, and each new project may choose a new protocol that LibreOffice developers would need to implement it. I understand an initiative like this isn't easy at all, because it's not only developing a powerful and well documented RTCE protocol. Like in the example of Infinote, that means nothing if the protocol isn't adopted and promoted widely by other related projects. This is a proposal from the user point of view, but I hope to make some people think about it. In my opinion this could be a killer app for LibreOffice and also gain popularity in education/business/government environments too. I'm supossing this concept would require developer efforts, lots of PR, contacting with other organizations and such. Make people agree on standards seems not easy, but I think is possible if people do the necessary effort (as showed in ODF). With a bit of research from my illiterate perspective, I already found other theorical and practical proposals and experiments on RTCE. So I think more skilled people can investigate further on the tecnical side of this if there's enough interest on it. Please think about this proposal and give your opinions. I hope my thinking can be at least a bit useful to the community to start an interesting discussion about the topic. Regards. PS: I think this can be even more interesting to investigate from now on since the appearing of the LibreOffice Online project. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] IT Certification
I know a kid locally that is working on getting ready for as many certifications as he can BEFORE he goes off to college. His main system is Linux of some type and like LO and OOo a lot, according to his mother a used book store owner. He may be interested in getting a Certification in LO, when it becomes available. He helps his teacher out now and he hopes to have as many college credits from high school going into his first sememster of college as others get after their second or third semester only from college. The kid is smart. He is about to take the A1 or something that costs $300+ to take. On 10/16/2011 05:25 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Fantastic! Good to see. I wish i had noticed this earlier as we just had a question about Certification. I think someone is working on a large project in Venezuela and someone else on another large project in Sri Lanka. Are there plans for Certification in LibreOffice that is global rather than 'only' at national in a few countries? I thought the Paris Conference was going to announce something? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 13/10/11, Eliane Domingos de Sousaelianedomin...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eliane Domingos de Sousaelianedomin...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Espirito Livre Magazine - issue 30 released To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 13 October, 2011, 1:54 Dear all, I would like to announce the release of Espirito Livre Magazine issue 30. The theme this month is: IT Certification. In this Magazine there are pages dedicated to LibreOffice and one of them is specially about the first anniversary. Download: http://goo.gl/5Emqs Kind regards -- Eliane Domingos de Sousa gtalk/skype: elianedomingos twitter: eliane_domingos identica/facebook: elianedomingos -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
