Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

2015-04-16 Thread pierre-yves . samyn
Hi

I've uploaded a new version of the brochure.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-FRLtr.odt

Updates: Version 4.4 - 110 languages - ref. web use - QR code - extension 
mechanism

I have not found on the wiki (EN pages) materials for changing the visual. 
The flyer seems to use similar design.

My skills in this area are limited so I have not changed that...
HTH

Regards
Pierre-Yves

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

2015-04-16 Thread William Gathoye
On 04/15/2015 03:54 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 Meeeh. True enough. Then we have a problem. William, do you feel like putting 
 up
 a small brochure in French? Using the Discover section of the website should 
 do it.

As Pierre Yves updated his version, do I still need to create a small brochure?
Not to undervalue Pierre's work, but according to the advertisers and marketing
specialists I have here in the company I'm working, a 3 folds brochure like this
with so much text in it is likely not to be read. Except maybe by nerds, but
end-users won't, if we have to distribute such brochures outside IT conferences.

Also according to the feedback they have, I wonder if a brochure is the best
format. Maybe flyers would fit better and would be cheaper to print. When
printed the text on Pierre's work is rather big, reducing it would allow us to
reduce paper size and cost.

I think LibreOffice needs a consistent and greatly designed marketing campaign
across languages about its flyers. Providing the same consistent brochure/flyer
in different languages for UK, DE, NL and FR would reinforce our branding.

On 04/15/2015 03:30 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Again, we are not so interested with a co-sponsorship but I would need a
 ballpark estimate of how much we're talking about.

Do you need a ballpark about the price or the number of brochures/flyers you 
need?

If this is about the price, read on.

Here in the company, we need at least 1.250 prints (lower than excepted) in
order for us to have preferential prices.

Based on Pierre's work, for A4 colourful brochures (recto verso) with 2 folds
(already folded), printed on 135gr glossy paper (traditional paper for printer
are 80gr so this is a great improvement compared to the brochure we have now) +
free redesign from Pixin'ko with sources is 319€ (VAT excluded). (372€ for 2.5k
prints). Lowering the price is possible if we play with paper quality and print
delays. If after compression, you find it still too expensive, like I said,
co-partnership is possible with our small mentioned logo below the 
flyer/brochure.
But for Brussels, we will need to have the final version before end of week in
order to have them printed before 24th April.

If you need to order as a company, or in the name of TDF, I don't think you need
to add VAT, because this basically consists in intracom exchanges. The delivery
price depends on the location where we need to send the package.

Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

2015-04-16 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello William,

Sorry for top posting. You are right, lengthy brochures are wholly ineffective 
but Pierre-Yves merely updated the existing one. There is unfortunately a 
strong bias here of people who think people enjoy reading pages about 
LibreOffice and FOSS :-)

I am mostly interested in results at this stage. What would be the easiest 
option for you? Draft a simple one or reuse the existing?

Best,

Charles. 

On 16 avril 2015 11:44:34 CEST, William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be wrote:
On 04/15/2015 03:54 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

 Meeeh. True enough. Then we have a problem. William, do you feel like
putting up
 a small brochure in French? Using the Discover section of the website
should do it.

As Pierre Yves updated his version, do I still need to create a small
brochure?
Not to undervalue Pierre's work, but according to the advertisers and
marketing
specialists I have here in the company I'm working, a 3 folds brochure
like this
with so much text in it is likely not to be read. Except maybe by
nerds, but
end-users won't, if we have to distribute such brochures outside IT
conferences.

Also according to the feedback they have, I wonder if a brochure is the
best
format. Maybe flyers would fit better and would be cheaper to print.
When
printed the text on Pierre's work is rather big, reducing it would
allow us to
reduce paper size and cost.

I think LibreOffice needs a consistent and greatly designed marketing
campaign
across languages about its flyers. Providing the same consistent
brochure/flyer
in different languages for UK, DE, NL and FR would reinforce our
branding.

On 04/15/2015 03:30 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
 Again, we are not so interested with a co-sponsorship but I would
need a
 ballpark estimate of how much we're talking about.

Do you need a ballpark about the price or the number of
brochures/flyers you need?

If this is about the price, read on.

Here in the company, we need at least 1.250 prints (lower than
excepted) in
order for us to have preferential prices.

Based on Pierre's work, for A4 colourful brochures (recto verso) with 2
folds
(already folded), printed on 135gr glossy paper (traditional paper for
printer
are 80gr so this is a great improvement compared to the brochure we
have now) +
free redesign from Pixin'ko with sources is 319€ (VAT excluded). (372€
for 2.5k
prints). Lowering the price is possible if we play with paper quality
and print
delays. If after compression, you find it still too expensive, like I
said,
co-partnership is possible with our small mentioned logo below the
flyer/brochure.
But for Brussels, we will need to have the final version before end of
week in
order to have them printed before 24th April.

If you need to order as a company, or in the name of TDF, I don't think
you need
to add VAT, because this basically consists in intracom exchanges. The
delivery
price depends on the location where we need to send the package.

Regards,

-- 
William Gathoye
will...@gathoye.be


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

2015-04-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Where i work when we go to events we take along old flyers even if we have
newer ones but just put them at the bottom of the pile.

It bolsters numbers, makes the stack look heftier (and therefore people are
less reticent about taking one), it is a good way of using up older ones
and a good way to make sure it's easy for people to compare or to access
information that may have been changed on newer ones.

If my place doesn't have any new ones (or has run out) then if anyone
notices we say something like Wow!! Have we run out of the new flyers
already?  They've been really popular!


I think the old flyers are plenty good enough.  You all put a LOT of work
and discussion in to producing them and it shows in the quality.  Of course
there were some points that people disagreed with but that is healthy and
the result was good.


Regards from
Tom :)



On 16 April 2015 at 08:11, K-J LibreOffice k...@libreoffice.org wrote:

 Hi all,
 sorry, didn't really follow your discussion.

 Am 16.04.2015 um 08:16 schrieb pierre-yves.sa...@laposte.net:

 Hi

 I've uploaded a new version of the brochure.
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-
 CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-FRLtr.odt

 Updates: Version 4.4 - 110 languages - ref. web use - QR code - extension
 mechanism

 I have not found on the wiki (EN pages) materials for changing the visual.
 The flyer seems to use similar design.


 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-
 CommunityBrochure-GeneralInformation-A4.odt

 There is only a difference in the line breaks. I think it looks a little
 bit smarter than the selfmade waves.
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Lines_for_brochures

 To see how it looks in your brochure:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:K-j/Drafts#Miscellanea

  My skills in this area are limited


 Mine too, but I try to learn ...

  so I have not changed that...


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd: contact LO Belgium-fr ?

2015-04-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 16-04-15 12:36:

 I am mostly interested in results at this stage. What would be the
 easiest option for you? Draft a simple one or reuse the existing?

Sorry, my bad, but I stopped years ago to engage in discussions on
long/short folders.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Material#Flyer_.._simple_version_2014

You may want to use it, improve it..

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