Re: [libreoffice-marketing] TDF Birthday video?
Hi, Am 23.02.2015 um 21:33 schrieb Marc Paré: Is it just me or did we just forget to advertise the TDF 3rd birthday video on our mailing lists? At least it was on twitter and Facebook for the folks. Those subscribed to the mailing lists should know how cool the project is, anyway. ;-) Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Magazine 9 released
Hi, Am 25.02.2014 19:25, schrieb Eliane Domingos de Sousa: We just want to share our iniciative. I do not understand a word of Portuguese, but what I see inspires me! Great thing. Stefan :-) -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] stable? Re: [tdf-announce] The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 3.5.3
Servus Charles :-) Am 02.05.2012 14:07, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz: What else do you think a mailing list for users is designed for if not for bug reports? Of course, it can be used for bug reports. However, I think, it´s primarily meant for all kind of user´s questions, that do not necessarily result from a bug. I guess this has nothing to do with Tom´s statement, which I simply do not understand... ;-) Enjoy the sun! Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Christian, Am 08.12.2011 13:30, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: What of the above isn't answering your question? For me, the following issue is still unclear: Am 26.11.2011 22:28, schrieb Marc Paré: Le 2011-11-26 12:46, Stefan Weigel a écrit : I am still dreaming ;-) of a common database for all events. Some of them are of global interest, some of them are of local interest only, and some of them are both. It would be pretty to have them all in one data source, rather than having a global calendar and several local calendars separately, with the need to synchronize data manually, if some events are to appear in more than one of these calendars. Most decent calendar systems do this with filtering. This is of no problem at all. Are we getting these filtering features? Can the calendar (itself) and the calendar entries be localized and still be based on the same calendar database? (That would be very, very cool.) :-) Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hi Christian, Am 26.11.2011 18:08, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: Will there be a possibility to separate the info, that is targetted to website visitors, from the info, that is targetted to booth staff et cetera? But of course you can just add a link to the wiki dealing with the specific event. If you need dedicated info for booth staff etc, then you will probably have a dedicated page anyway. Ok. This sounds practicable to me. The Event calendar is a special page in the CMS - so anyone who has access to the cms can edit the data. I am still dreaming ;-) of a common database for all events. Some of them are of global interest, some of them are of local interest only, and some of them are both. It would be pretty to have them all in one data source, rather than having a global calendar and several local calendars separately, with the need to synchronize data manually, if some events are to appear in more than one of these calendars. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Christian, Am 25.11.2011 12:11, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: and the calendar modul of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. Hm. Yet another place, where the data about the events have to be updated manually, in addition to the wiki pages. Nah, the idea would not to have it twice, but only in silverstripe - if you need it elsewhere you can write a short script to convert a rss feed of something like that. Would the calendar module hold organizational information as well? For example: http://www.2shared.com/photo/ObliY9AC/Bildschirmfoto.html Will there be a possibility to separate the info, that is targetted to website visitors, from the info, that is targetted to booth staff et cetera? Can booth staff and speakers easily access the calendars data base, in order to edit the organizational information? For the latter, a wiki page would be the best. But then, as explained, we suffer from redundant/inconsistent data storage. :-/ If the geographic categories All, Europe, North/South America (and probably a missing Asia) are enough, then I can add them to the silverstripe calendar and you'll have the same info as on the wiki page. Don´t forget the info on the subpages Events/de Events/es Events/fr Events/it and so on, that intentionally do not contain all events from the main page but some additional events, that are not on the main page. But they do contain some Events from the main page. For these, consistency of information should be assured. Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Andreas, Am 24.11.2011 20:19, schrieb Andreas Mantke: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it up. :-/ Hmm. That maybe a task for the future, when we attend a big bunch of events. Okay. Until then, I would suggest not to create a two-dimensional structure of subpages (one dimension for language/region, one dimension for the year), but rather keep the single structure of subpages for languages/regions and create a main paragraph for each year on each page. I did that as my proposal on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events However, I did not mark the page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 for deletion yet. Currently I think, we can manage the events with a wiki page Hm. The problem is, it´s not a single wiki page, but a bunch of pages and some events are listed redundantly on several pages. Think, if you are about to add some usefull information about LinuxTag 2012, would you sure remember to edit two wiki pages synchronously? and the calendar modul of Silverstripe or a embedded Google calendar. Hm. Yet another place, where the data about the events have to be updated manually, in addition to the wiki pages. Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Andreas, Am 22.11.2011 21:52, schrieb Andreas Mantke: I created the wiki page at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 and filled in the events for Europe that I always know. Hm. It´s not easy for one to keep track on the events. How does a visitor of the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events know, that there is a subpage ./2012? Did you see the localized pages, that are automatically linked from the main page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events on the top. For example, there are already events in 2012 at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de? However the language link for de from the new ./2012 page you created leads to Diese Seite enthält momentan noch keinen Text. Du kannst ihren Titel auf anderen Seiten suchen oder die zugehörigen Logbücher betrachten. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] List of Events to attend in 2012
Hallo Andreas, Am 23.11.2011 21:21, schrieb Andreas Mantke: could you fix that please (it's a wiki ;-) I am not sure, how to fix that in a wiki. :-) There are several types of events in different regions of the world, some of global interest, some only for some native languages, some both. We want to keep track of them as well as keep an archive. We want to apply organizational info, such as who is at the booth, who will be there for a talk. I think, this diserves a relational database, rather than a set of wiki pages. In a wiki, we will end up with several pages, none of them complete, many of them inconsistent. For example look at ChemnitzerLinuxTage and LinuxTag on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2012 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/de One will have to follow both, in order to get all available information. It´s a pity, that I don´t have the time to create a DB and bring it up. :-/ Gruß Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base
Hi, Am 15.09.2011 22:58, schrieb Robert Ryley: Perhaps I should be more clear. I wasn't expecting binary compatibility, but perhaps an easy migration from Access to whatever backend is chosen. Migration from Access is hardly about a backend and data. It is more about the application that is built out of forms, reports, queries, makros, menus, and - above all - the VBA Code inside an MDB-File, MDA-File or APT-File. I am very unsure, if easy migration from Access is an attainable goal for LibO. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi, No doubt, it would be good to have more developers as well as documenters working on Base to make it a mature component, but... Am 14.09.2011 03:39, schrieb webmaster for Kracked Press Productions: ... So unless LO can easily use Access files and reports and forms he created over the years, he will not go to LO AFAIK, Base was never meant as and will never be a replacement for MS Access. Architecture and concepts are too different. We should not raise wrong expectations. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Paris conference - info on costs for participants on website
Hi, Am 18.08.2011 10:57, schrieb Cor Nouws: Something as: Thanks to our sponsors and the volunteers helping with organising, participating this conference is free of charge. However if you register and eventually are not able to come to our conference, which we would really regret, please inform is as soon as possible. This allows us to make due preparations for the right number of participants. (far too long?) And this on top or bottom of the registration page? In addition, there could be a short hint on the registration page, if successfull registration should result in a confirmation E-Mail - or not. :-) /me did register, but has received nothing, does not really know if that´s ok. ;-) Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Conference Kit wiki page and problems
Hi Marc, Am 13.02.2011 14:04, schrieb Marc Paré: Now that this page is quite at an advanced stage I have added the language header. There seems to be a problem with the RO language page. Does anyone know how to fix this? The RO page causes problems on some other marketing wiki pages too. Someone screwed up the Template:OrigLang. I guess I fixed it now. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Conference Kit wiki page and problems
Hi Marc, Am 13.02.2011 14:38, schrieb Marc Paré: Was it my mistake or the RO? A wrong entry was made apparently by [[User:Catalin_Festila]]. Salut, Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: selling points
Ciao Italo, Am 11.01.2011 00:54, schrieb Italo Vignoli: Compatibility is a key feature, but OOo has never been marketed as a we are like MS Office, but not as good as them. The problem is that in the Americas has never been marketed. In Europe, no one - apart Sun and now Oracle - has ever pronounced this sentence. Despite that, many people (at least in Germany) beleive that OOo is just like MS Office, but free (and maybe not quite as good). And, that is what people in germany are told by the mass media. Examples: * http://www.focus.de/digital/computer/tid-13730/openoffice-kostenlose-alternative-zu-microsoft-office_aid_382437.html * http://www.freeware.de/download/openofficeorg_6177.html * http://portable-openoffice-org.softonic.de/ * http://www.computerbild.de/download/OpenOffice.org-904173.html * ... quote„OpenOffice.org“ ist eine kostenlose und funktional gleichwertige Alternative zum Office-Paket von Microsoft./quote translationOpenOffice.org is gratis and a functionally equivalent alternative to the office suite from Microsoft./translation And yes, Sun/Oracle have been creating the same impression: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/images/7/74/JavaInstall2.png Maybe an important task for LibO marketing would be to get rid of this image. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: Making it remarkable!
Hi Dave, Am 01.01.2011 01:02, schrieb Dave Johnson: DO NOT talk about the fact that it is free. IMO the key point is that it´s not (only) free of charge, but that it´s free software in the sense of ...freedom ...free speech ...openness ...trustable and so on. Pretty much the same is true for ODF. In this sense, I think we *should* talk about it. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Our goals?
Hi Tom, Am 01.01.2011 17:05, schrieb Tom Davies: Our goal should NOT be improving the product! Our goal should be to market the product effectively however bad it might be! -1 Thank god, we do have a good product (although still to be improved). I would absolutely oppose praising a bad product! This list is also NOT the place to start discussing whether or not a larger market share is a good thing. Our single job in this list is to work at increasing market share. -1 Im am astonished because of your narrow-minded definition of marketing. Marketing is not only meant to increase sales or distribution numbers. In our case a very important, perhaps the most important mission for marketing is to recruit contributors. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Making LibO Remarkable 2
Ciao Italo, Am 02.01.2011 00:01, schrieb Italo Vignoli: Market share is a consequence and not an abjective. Exactly, thanks. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Making LibO Remarkable 2
Hi Dave, Am 02.01.2011 05:37, schrieb Dave Johnson: I asked the IT department of the #3 dialysis provider in the U.S. (DCI Inc. a 501(c)3 nonprofit company. I work at this company BTW. I asked why DCI does not use OOo or LibO and I used the it's free. The answer is DCI has a grant or some other such free deal to use MS Office from Microsoft Corp. How can we compete with free MS Office? Explain the different meaning of free in free software! Free software gives you freedom. Free MS Office means gratis and the opposite of freedom: a vendor lock-in. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page
Hi Tom, Am 31.12.2010 11:51, schrieb Tom Davies: I think it is just easy access to the source code that is required? I think the spirit of the agreement would make it more relevant to just let people know they can download the product for free and give them the LibreOffice site? LibreOfficeBox, for example, contains the source code as well. Delivering the product on a DVD is also (or mainly?) meant for people who cannot download it, for whatever reason. In order to supply those people with the source code as prescribed, the best way would be to put it on the same disk. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page
Hi Drew, David, * Am 31.12.2010 01:06, schrieb drew: Perhaps this would be a good point, for David's benefit, if you could tell him a bit about the LibreOfficeBox project, how it functions and it's relationship with the broader LibreOffice community. I am hardly involved in the LibreOfficeBox project. So, I may not be the right one to tell about it. However, here is what I beleive to know about it: It´s idea evolved from the PrOOoBox, a CD/DVD distribution project, driven by members of the germanophone OOo subproject. http://www.prooo-box.org/ There were CDs or DVDs or memory sticks, optionally packed in a nice box and bundled with a brochure/manual. Look: //www.ooodev.org/fanartikel.html The disks contained the installers (for different or all platforms), language packs, source code, lots of documentation, art work, templates and so on. The discs have a website-like user interface. You can see a mirror of this interface in the web: http://live.prooo-box.org/de/ Have a look at the LibreOfficeBox Homepage http://www.libreofficebox.org/ which pretty much represents the user interface of the upcoming LibreOfficeBox DVDs. You can download an early developer snapshot of the LibreOfficeBox-ISO here: http://torrent.projects.ooodev.org:6969/index.html?search=DVD Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page
Hi Tom, Am 29.12.2010 09:36, schrieb Tom Davies: Please can we try to be civil with each other. Just because someone uses a system you don't approve of does not make them wrong. OpenSource gives us choices and gives the opportunity to respect each others cultural and other differences. I know it is a bit non-standard in the world out there!! OpenSource does not mean to sell things that do not exist and by this potentially bring harm to the reputation of the the concerned OpenSource project. From Dave's comments i would assume he is preparing for release, or else maybe stamping the betas with a note telling people they are betas. I would not have assumed that he was deliberately doing something wrong. Dave removed the offer from the website. Until he removed it, he was actually offering and taking orders for LibreOffice 3.3.0 on a DVD, although this product does not exist yet. That´s what made me worry. Since he removed his offer, there is no need for further discussion. So far i have had no troubles working out who said what in Dave's emails. Obviously he is going to get a lot of criticism because he is the most active person in here but until you reach the same level of activity as him it is unjust to criticise. Please find a way to work with people rather than against them especially when they are doing great stuff. This all is not meant to critisize someone for his level of activity, but to prevent wrong behavior, of which nobody is immune. The people who stepped in here, all show a very high level of contribution to the project. However, intervening against failures doesn´t need justification by high activity. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page
Hi Dave, Am 28.12.2010 23:35, schrieb Dave Johnson: I am NOT selling the software just a professionally made DVD with a Windows and Macintosh binary. Probably OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 So what is on the DVD you are offering? * LibreOffice has not been released yet. * OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 has not been released yet * Please don´t sell DVDs labeled LibreOffice when OpenOffice.org is on it. * Please don´t sell DVDs with beta state software without telling that it is beta state software. If you mean to support the project by distributing a professionally made DVD on your website, which basically is a good thing, I would like to see a professionally made website as well. And please, for the sake of usability of this list for all readers, please have a look at: http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Thank you very much! Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO DVD fulfillment web-page
Hi Dave, Am 26.12.2010 01:45, schrieb Dave Johnson: Just FYI... The DVD will be professionally manufactured with a color printed face and printed insert. http://www.libreofficedvd.info/ Comments are welcome. How can you sell LibreOffice on a DVD, when it has not been released yet??? Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website online - question on main structure for art / branding / marketing
Hi Michael, Am 07.11.2010 11:12, schrieb Michael Wheatland: My name is Michael Wheatland and I am working on the Drupal Website development team. In case you are unaware we are currently designing a fully integrated website for the LibreOffice community which will replace the existing site in around 3-6 months. Yes, I have heard, that some people are working on a Drupal solution. However, from what I know, the Steering Committee decided to work with Silverstripe, and we are currently working with Silverstripe. The Steering Committee did *not* yet decide a replacement of Silverstripe by Drupal in the future. They just suggested further investigation on how Drupal could be a future solution. The Steering Committee did not decide about a time frame. (I just read the minutes again.) However, Bernhard is referring to the LibreOffice website, that is to be filled with content *now* and this is Silverstripe. There will also be geographical groups, however the Drupal Website Dev Team is currently working on the framework to eliminate the language barrier using a combination of manual and automated translation systems. In many cases you will be able to communicate directly with another member who you do not share any language with, yet still have the ability to discuss, conceptualise and develop ideas together without a third party involved. Maybe important and interesting work, no doubt. I would suggest that if you have views about what you want from the website I would suggest getting involved with the webs...@libreoffice.org mailing list or visiting the Drupal Website Development Wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Website/Drupal I´d rather concentrate on filling the existing website with the very urgently needed content, immediately. I am answering here at marketing@libreoffice.org rather than posting on webs...@libreoffice.org, because Bernhard raised this issue here. What you guys are doing, is building up a new house. I am engaged in disaster management and emergency service, trying to accomodate the homeless *now*. ;-) Both is necessary, though. Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted