Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I would rather see the work done by a volunteer too especially if that meant 
someone that had a good understanding of LibreOffice and perhaps the wider FOSS 
community.  However, paying for things sometimes makes the relationship clearer 
and easier to control.  

Either way the trick is finding someone or a few people with the skills, time 
and motivation.  


On a side-issue / tangent ... 
We don't have to fight against OpenOffice anymore.  Not that we were really 
fighting them before but now it's even less relevant.  Similarly with 
AbiWordGnumeric, KOffice/Calligra, Google-docs and the rest of the OpenSource 
alternatives.  OpenOffice is a great product and it helps us to help people 
start using it and to break away from trying to use MS Office.  LibreOffice is 
a lot better than OpenOffice so people will move towards it once they realise 
they are both so similar.  

The most difficult step is the 1st step.  That important 1st step is to help 
people realise there are good  alternatives to MS Office.  If people think 
there is a squabble between OpenOffice and LibreOffice they may delay until 
they can see which one loses first!  However if we can show people that both 
are strong products standing shoulder-to-shoulder as brothers (or sisters) then 
it gives them greater confidence in just choosing one (and then perhaps 
changing to the other one later when they realise that is easy).  

Similarly i think it's important that people know they can keep running their 
old MS Office and just have LibreOffice / OpenOffice alongside so that they can 
gradually move over at their own pace.  So, people have less to worry about 
while moving over.  

All that is just my own opinion and i know others think differently.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 2/3/12, Nguyễn Vũ Hưng vuhung16p...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Nguyễn Vũ Hưng vuhung16p...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org, documentat...@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 2 March, 2012, 4:10

Hi there, 

2012/3/1 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk


Hi :)
There are some fairly old YouTube things that may have higher quality originals 
if you contact the person that created them


1.   A smart young professional looking chap giving a good but slightly 
visually dull interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=PFowLtr39Ug#t=319s



That is myself at 319th second in that movie :) 

This movie was created by the guy who is working at (Vietnam) VTV2, taking care 
of IT space program, who also asked me if LibreOffice has any movie alike to 
The Mozilla Story so that he can put both on-line in the same programme.

 


3.  This one looks like a working conference for the wider FOSS community
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIymff2m114



One of the guy in the movie is Mr. Le Trung Nghia, who has fought ODF against  
OOXML, and we won.  ODF now is a national standard and ODF/OpenOffice.org is 
either forced or recommended in the public sections.

However, we are still working hard to make LibreOffice replace OpenOffice.org
By the way, MSO (mainly 2003) and MS formats are still the de facto standard in 
Vietnam.

To make LibreOffice official, one of the thing I am thinking is that,


get it on VTV2. 




4.  Again the wider FOSS community.  This looks very polished.  A 
professionally produced advert?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhnlbDaC0Cgfeature=related



That is the same programme IT space, the same guy that I have mentioned.

The communities including VFOSSA.vn, HanoiLUG, Vietlug and many local/online 
lugs in Vietnam.






Other
 people have suggested putting together a commercial advert or a brief 
introduction and occasionally we have had people interested in helping do the 
video editing side of things.  Sadly all these people seem to ask at very 
different times and come from different lands with different languages.  Last 
one i remember was Daniska(? sorry for the bad spelling!) from Thailand (i 
think).  I can't remember who offered their video editing skills.  


Great to hear that, 
 



A lot of the sections of the Mozilla ones fit LibreOffice extremely well.  
Perhaps we could start by using some of their advert?  Perhaps mention them at 
the same time?  I think we might have to ask their permission but i imagine 
they released it under a copyleft agreement.  


+1
 



On another tack i might be able to engage a professional VJ that has produced 
an advert for another high tech product but he is so far a bit clueless about 
LibreOffice at the moment although i
 could possibly explain it well enough for him to make something impressive.  
Possibly £200 (Uk) for 2-5 min but i have no idea really.  

I think we can find a vonlunteer. 



I have contacted Nixie and asked if she could send me the movie :)





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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-02 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


If TDF/Lo had the money to spend on the making of a 
video/advertisement/infomercial for LO, it would be nice, but they/we do 
no have such money.


If someone would to a video of a presentation, not at an event, then it 
could be a start.  Then have some video time showing a monitor while 
someone is demo-ing LO can be included.  Show people how easy LO is to 
use, plus a comparison to using it with MSO files, and other stuff 
that makes LO the best free product out there for an alternative to MSO.


As for the other issue, we need to have a side by side comparison of all 
of the free office products, Windows and Linux, with a listing for MSO 
in their to make it useful for Windows users to see that they do not 
need to have MSO for their normal office needs.  Gear it for home, 
student [grades 6-12, plus university], and business users.  If we had 
some side by side facts about LO compared to the others, we would not 
need the in my opinion information about LO as much as we do now.


Quotes from articles comparing LO and MSO would help.

Windows is the real need to get more users using LO over any other 
office option for that environment.  We need to get more Windows quotes 
about how good LO is compared to MSO, not relying on best of the Linux 
office suites types of articles.


Yes, we need to let them know that you can have MSO and LO on your 
system.  Or you can say that you can have LO on your personal/home 
system and keep using MSO at work.  Then you will not need to buy a copy 
of MSO 2010 on any home hardware.  I just deleted the icons to deal with 
trial and buy now for MSO 2010 for a laptop bought last month by a 
friend.  She has LO and my 638K dictionary installed now.  She it the 
type of person that might see those icons and think that she must buy 
MSO 2010 to get her laptop running completely.


LO and OOo cannot be easily run side by side, but while I still used 
Windows on my desktop, I has OOo and MSO on it at the same time.  That 
was before LO came out and before I switched to Linux as my default system.


It would be nice to have a GOOD brochure with the quotes from Windows 
articles, so we can show potential users; either for ourselves or at the 
shows/events coming soon in North America.  It seems that our people in 
charge with marketing materials do not have one that I can see for use 
like that.  When Drew had time, he created one spring/summer of last 
year to be included with the NA-DVD, but I have not seen an updated one 
to be geared for the new users and all the good things that LO can do now.


Here is a link to the May 15th, 2011 pamphlet I was talking about.
http://libreoffice-na.us/LibO-TriFild-Pamphlet-11-05-15-ltr-en.pdf

Here was the last inserted document for installing LO from the NA-DVD 
from May 16th, 2011 edit.

http://libreoffice-na.us/na-dvd-insert-may-16.pdf

On 03/02/2012 11:48 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I would rather see the work done by a volunteer too especially if that meant someone that had a good understanding of LibreOffice and perhaps the wider FOSS community.  However, paying for things sometimes makes the relationship clearer and easier to control. 

Either way the trick is finding someone or a few people with the skills, time and motivation. 



On a side-issue / tangent ...
We don't have to fight against OpenOffice anymore.  Not that we were really fighting them before but now it's even less relevant.  Similarly with AbiWordGnumeric, KOffice/Calligra, Google-docs and the rest of the OpenSource alternatives.  OpenOffice is a great product and it helps us to help people start using it and to break away from trying to use MS Office.  LibreOffice is a lot better than OpenOffice so people will move towards it once they realise they are both so similar. 

The most difficult step is the 1st step.  That important 1st step is to help people realise there are good  alternatives to MS Office.  If people think there is a squabble between OpenOffice and LibreOffice they may delay until they can see which one loses first!  However if we can show people that both are strong products standing shoulder-to-shoulder as brothers (or sisters) then it gives them greater confidence in just choosing one (and then perhaps changing to the other one later when they realise that is easy). 

Similarly i think it's important that people know they can keep running their old MS Office and just have LibreOffice / OpenOffice alongside so that they can gradually move over at their own pace.  So, people have less to worry about while moving over. 

All that is just my own opinion and i know others think differently. 
Regards from

Tom :)


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From: Nguyễn Vũ Hưngvuhung16p...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice
To: Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: marketing@global.libreoffice.org, documentat...@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 2 March, 2012, 4:10

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There are some comparisons at Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_office_suites
It might be worth checking through their external references.  

It doesn't mention compatibility with different formats and that might be an 
interesting table to add near the end of the page but i think it would be too 
difficult to reseach and compile as it's a constantly moving target.  

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 2 March, 2012, 17:21


If TDF/Lo had the money to spend on the making of a 
video/advertisement/infomercial for LO, it would be nice, but they/we do no 
have such money.

If someone would to a video of a presentation, not at an event, then it could 
be a start.  Then have some video time showing a monitor while someone is 
demo-ing LO can be included.  Show people how easy LO is to use, plus a 
comparison to using it with MSO files, and other stuff that makes LO the best 
free product out there for an alternative to MSO.

As for the other issue, we need to have a side by side comparison of all of the 
free office products, Windows and Linux, with a listing for MSO in their to 
make it useful for Windows users to see that they do not need to have MSO for 
their normal office needs.  Gear it for home, student [grades 6-12, plus 
university], and business users.  If we had some side by side facts about LO 
compared to the others, we would not need the in my opinion information about 
LO as much as we do now.

Quotes from articles comparing LO and MSO would help.

Windows is the real need to get more users using LO over any other office 
option for that environment.  We need to get more Windows quotes about how good 
LO is compared to MSO, not relying on best of the Linux office suites types 
of articles.

Yes, we need to let them know that you can have MSO and LO on your system.  Or 
you can say that you can have LO on your personal/home system and keep using 
MSO at work.  Then you will not need to buy a copy of MSO 2010 on any home 
hardware.  I just deleted the icons to deal with trial and buy now for MSO 
2010 for a laptop bought last month by a friend.  She has LO and my 638K 
dictionary installed now.  She it the type of person that might see those icons 
and think that she must buy MSO 2010 to get her laptop running completely.

LO and OOo cannot be easily run side by side, but while I still used Windows 
on my desktop, I has OOo and MSO on it at the same time.  That was before LO 
came out and before I switched to Linux as my default system.

It would be nice to have a GOOD brochure with the quotes from Windows articles, 
so we can show potential users; either for ourselves or at the shows/events 
coming soon in North America.  It seems that our people in charge with 
marketing materials do not have one that I can see for use like that.  When 
Drew had time, he created one spring/summer of last year to be included with 
the NA-DVD, but I have not seen an updated one to be geared for the new users 
and all the good things that LO can do now.

Here is a link to the May 15th, 2011 pamphlet I was talking about.
http://libreoffice-na.us/LibO-TriFild-Pamphlet-11-05-15-ltr-en.pdf

Here was the last inserted document for installing LO from the NA-DVD from May 
16th, 2011 edit.
http://libreoffice-na.us/na-dvd-insert-may-16.pdf

On 03/02/2012 11:48 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I would rather see the work done by a volunteer too especially if that meant 
 someone that had a good understanding of LibreOffice and perhaps the wider 
 FOSS community.  However, paying for things sometimes makes the relationship 
 clearer and easier to control. 
 Either way the trick is finding someone or a few people with the skills, time 
 and motivation. 
 
 On a side-issue / tangent ...
 We don't have to fight against OpenOffice anymore.  Not that we were really 
 fighting them before but now it's even less relevant.  Similarly with 
 AbiWordGnumeric, KOffice/Calligra, Google-docs and the rest of the 
 OpenSource alternatives.  OpenOffice is a great product and it helps us to 
 help people start using it and to break away from trying to use MS Office.  
 LibreOffice is a lot better than OpenOffice so people will move towards it 
 once they realise they are both so similar. 
 The most difficult step is the 1st step.  That important 1st step is to help 
 people realise there are good  alternatives to MS Office.  If people think 
 there is a squabble between OpenOffice and LibreOffice they may delay until 
 they can see which one loses first!  However if we can show people that both 
 are strong products standing shoulder-to-shoulder as brothers (or sisters) 
 then it gives them greater confidence in just choosing one

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-01 Thread Simon Phipps
This video is good, and I suspect Nixie Pixel would help the TV company with 
broadcast quality materials if you asked her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=sloEMUt7n5Q

S.

On 1 Mar 2012, at 03:54, Nguyễn Vũ Hưng wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 Anyone knows where I can find a high quality (better than youtube) to
 PR LibreOffice?
 
 The reason I am looking for this is that, a man working at (Vietnam)
 national TV agency said to me that he can put LibreOffice on air. The
 length should be 2 or 5 munites.
 
 FYI,
 This is the IT Space program in which we have talked about,
 including LibreOffice.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e93KaymzgOYfeature=related
 
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-01 Thread Nguyễn Vũ Hưng
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 18:22, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
 This video is good, and I suspect Nixie Pixel would help the TV company with 
 broadcast quality materials if you asked her:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=sloEMUt7n5Q

Is there any official videos made by LibreOffice that similar to this?
http://videos.mozilla.org/brand/

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-01 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 3/1/12 12:36 PM, Nguyễn Vũ Hưng wrote:

 Is there any official videos made by LibreOffice that similar to this?
 http://videos.mozilla.org/brand/

We do not have anything at the moment.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-01 Thread Nguyễn Vũ Hưng
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 18:47, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/1/12 12:36 PM, Nguyễn Vũ Hưng wrote:

 Is there any official videos made by LibreOffice that similar to this?
 http://videos.mozilla.org/brand/

 We do not have anything at the moment.

It would be great if you have one :)


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-01 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 3/1/12 1:03 PM, Nguyễn Vũ Hưng wrote:

 It would be great if you have one :)

Of course, but we do not have it. Please remember that Mozilla gets
several million dollars from Google on a yearly basis, based on their
search engine related agreement. Producing a video is expensive, and we
currently do not have the budget.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There are some fairly old YouTube things that may have higher quality originals 
if you contact the person that created them
1.   A smart young professional looking chap giving a good but slightly 
visually dull interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=PFowLtr39Ug#t=319s
2.  The same interview but broken up with other images of smart young 
professional looking people creating a slightly wider diversity making it more 
interesting visually
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFowLtr39Ug
3.  This one looks like a working conference for the wider FOSS community
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIymff2m114
4.  Again the wider FOSS community.  This looks very polished.  A 
professionally produced advert?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhnlbDaC0Cgfeature=related

Other people have suggested putting together a commercial advert or a brief 
introduction and occasionally we have had people interested in helping do the 
video editing side of things.  Sadly all these people seem to ask at very 
different times and come from different lands with different languages.  Last 
one i remember was Daniska(? sorry for the bad spelling!) from Thailand (i 
think).  I can't remember who offered their video editing skills.  

A lot of the sections of the Mozilla ones fit LibreOffice extremely well.  
Perhaps we could start by using some of their advert?  Perhaps mention them at 
the same time?  I think we might have to ask their permission but i imagine 
they released it under a copyleft agreement.  

On another tack i might be able to engage a professional VJ that has produced 
an advert for another high tech product but he is so far a bit clueless about 
LibreOffice at the moment although i could possibly explain it well enough for 
him to make something impressive.  Possibly £200 (Uk) for 2-5 min but i have no 
idea really.  

Going back to the YouTube videos.  Perhaps stitching something together from a 
few different videos, perhaps each quadrant showing a different one with 2 of 
the quadrants showing slide-shows such as the Paris one or Florian's new one.  
Then video footage from the events or a new interview interspersing that?  
Perhaps you know someone that could do new cartoons to replace the bits in the 
Mozilla one that are not relevant to LibreOffice?

Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Nguyễn Vũ Hưng vuhung16p...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 1 March, 2012, 3:54

Hello all,

Anyone knows where I can find a high quality (better than youtube) to
PR LibreOffice?

The reason I am looking for this is that, a man working at (Vietnam)
national TV agency said to me that he can put LibreOffice on air. The
length should be 2 or 5 munites.

FYI,
This is the IT Space program in which we have talked about,
including LibreOffice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e93KaymzgOYfeature=related

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-03-01 Thread Nguyễn Vũ Hưng
Hi there,

2012/3/1 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 There are some fairly old YouTube things that may have higher quality
 originals if you contact the person that created them
 1.   A smart young professional looking chap giving a good but slightly
 visually dull interview
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=PFowLtr39Ug#t=319s


That is myself at 319th second in that movie :)

This movie was created by the guy who is working at (Vietnam) VTV2, taking
care of
IT space program, who also asked me
if LibreOffice has any movie alike to The Mozilla Story so that he can
put both online
in the same programme.






 3.  This one looks like a working conference for the wider FOSS community
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIymff2m114


One of the guy in the movie is Mr. Le Trung Nghia, who has fought ODF
against  OOXML, we we won't.
ODF now is a national standard and ODF/OpenOffice.org is neither forced or
recommended in the
public sections.

Howerver, we are still working hard to make LibreOffice replace
OpenOffice.org
By the way, MSO (mainly 2003) and MS formats are still the de facto
standard in Vietnam.

To make LibreOffice official, one of the thing I am thinking is that,
get it on VTV2.


4.  Again the wider FOSS community.  This looks very polished.  A
 professionally produced advert?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhnlbDaC0Cgfeature=related


That is the same programme IT space, the same guy that I have mentioned.

The communities including VFOSSA.vn, HanoiLUG, Vietlug and many
local/online lugs in Vietnam.


 Other people have suggested putting together a commercial advert or a
 brief introduction and occasionally we have had people interested in
 helping do the video editing side of things.  Sadly all these people seem
 to ask at very different times and come from different lands with different
 languages.  Last one i remember was Daniska(? sorry for the bad spelling!)
 from Thailand (i think).  I can't remember who offered their video editing
 skills.

Great to hear that,



 A lot of the sections of the Mozilla ones fit LibreOffice extremely well.
 Perhaps we could start by using some of their advert?  Perhaps mention them
 at the same time?  I think we might have to ask their permission but i
 imagine they released it under a copyleft agreement.

+1



 On another tack i might be able to engage a professional VJ that has
 produced an advert for another high tech product but he is so far a bit
 clueless about LibreOffice at the moment although i could possibly explain
 it well enough for him to make something impressive.  Possibly £200 (Uk)
 for 2-5 min but i have no idea really.


I think we can find a vonlunteer.

I have contacted Nixie and asked if she could send me the movie :)



-- 
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[libreoffice-marketing] Looking for a movie to promote LibreOffice

2012-02-29 Thread Nguyễn Vũ Hưng
Hello all,

Anyone knows where I can find a high quality (better than youtube) to
PR LibreOffice?

The reason I am looking for this is that, a man working at (Vietnam)
national TV agency said to me that he can put LibreOffice on air. The
length should be 2 or 5 munites.

FYI,
This is the IT Space program in which we have talked about,
including LibreOffice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e93KaymzgOYfeature=related

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