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Hello, Excellent reading. On this basis I traced what I believe is the profile of the two marks (Paper Airplane) and folded paper (used in Libo soon): Paper Airplane: a. distinction 3 b. visibility 8 c. usability 10 d. memorability 10 e. universality 10 f. Durability 8 g. timelessness 7 Folded: a. distinction 10 b. visibility 10 c. usability 5 d. memorability 5 e. Universality5 f. Durability 8 g. timelessness 7 The memorization of the paper plane as the logo for Libo can be obtained by deeds done by us. If each event took several paper airplanes to distribute to the public (please using recycled paper), this will create the public who wish to memorize. Visiting the site of Paul Rand came to your gallery (http://www.paul-rand.com/site/identity/) could not find much originality (sorry, but it is my opinion). It is strange for me to defend something done, but the idea of the paper airplane can be only in people's minds in years. What we have in our hands is one way this process be facilitated. The Libo will be present throughout the world, our logo will be in schools, businesses, computer fairs, car stickers and all. Not just a facade of a company in one country or another. It is similar to other logos: yes! But it is our paper airplane. I see the logo not as a symbol that accompanies the software, but a way of communicating with the public. In our events we can make a paper airplane contest that flies farther and the winner receives a gift from cd ... how such actions with a folded paper? who fold a paper faster? ... Até mais, Lucas Filho Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços http://www.open-ce.com.br ::@strogildo - Educação a distância http://astrogildo.blogspot.com Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce Blog Pessoal http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com Agradecemos a Deus por tudo - Mensagem original De: Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org Para: marketing@libreoffice.org Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 5 de Novembro de 2010 20:59:19 Assunto: Re: Res: Res: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon? On Saturday 06 Nov 2010 01:49:34 David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 20:06, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: People will always have different associations for logos and that doesn't really matter unless it has a high profile attachment to another brand or similar. Now that I've seen so many other paper plane icons I'm thinking that it fails because it is not unique. The page with the folded corner is however, quite unique. +1 for Lucas' paper plane. :-D Personally, the folded corner doesn't trigger any such association in my mind. I had to read that in the list to realize that's what it was supposed to be. It's not supposed to trigger any association at this point. It's necessary to look at the branding long term At least the paper plane looks clearly like what it is. And,IMHO, there weren't *so many* paper plane logos. More than one is too many, One large corporate such as laPoste is more than too many. Branding is about having unique image that eventually is immediately identified with the product or service. Plus LibO's is likely to be the most-recognized worldwide. The important thing would be for LibO's paper plane to have its own originality? Plus I feel the concept has a lot of flexibility and open-endedness... Originality and uniqueness are the key indeed, I'm just saying that the paper plane while cool in concept is not sufficiently unique or original unfortunately. Does the Folded corner page, fulfil the criteria? Moreso than the paper plane. Have a read of Paul Rand, Rand designed the IBM logo as well as a few other iconic brands in the US, Westinghouse, UPS and ABC. He is considered the father of modern branding by many. He explains it better than I can. http://www.paul-rand.com/site/thoughts_logosflags/ Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
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On Monday 22 November 2010 15:23:34 Lucas Filho wrote: Hello, Excellent reading. On this basis I traced what I believe is the profile of the two marks (Paper Airplane) and folded paper (used in Libo soon): Paper Airplane: a. distinction 3 b. visibility 8 c. usability 10 d. memorability 10 e. universality 10 f. Durability 8 g. timelessness 7 Folded: a. distinction 10 b. visibility 10 c. usability 5 d. memorability 5 e. Universality5 f. Durability 8 g. timelessness 7 Actually I far prefer your tilted LO logo. That ticks all the boxes and then some The memorization of the paper plane as the logo for Libo can be obtained by deeds done by us. If each event took several paper airplanes to distribute to the public (please using recycled paper), this will create the public who wish to memorize. Making any logo memorable is a result of the actions of the community and the marketing of the brand, no denying that, but that's my point in any case. Uniqueness and eye-catching design assist in that Visiting the site of Paul Rand came to your gallery (http://www.paul-rand.com/site/identity/) could not find much originality (sorry, but it is my opinion). LOL, The reason it doesn't seem original is because everybody copies him. Paul Rand is the God of branding and has been doing it for well over half a century and has designed some of the worlds most iconic brands Read some of the articles on the site, some are 60 years old and as relevant today as they were back then. It is strange for me to defend something done, but the idea of the paper airplane can be only in people's minds in years. What we have in our hands is one way this process be facilitated. The Libo will be present throughout the world, our logo will be in schools, businesses, computer fairs, car stickers and all. Not just a facade of a company in one country or another. It is similar to other logos: yes! But it is our paper airplane. I see the logo not as a symbol that accompanies the software, but a way of communicating with the public. In our events we can make a paper airplane contest that flies farther and the winner receives a gift from cd ... how such actions with a folded paper? who fold a paper faster? ... All of the above is true, but for any logo, not just the paper plane, it's just a matter of creative marketing. Paper plane folding would be interesting once, but long term it would simply get boring. Cheers GL Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Moderator New Zealand www.theingots.org.nz -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?
Hi, :-) On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 21:08, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote: Hi David, Moreover, it would be great if you could link your mail (along with some paper plane considerations) from within the Marketing Ideas page [1] - so it doesn't get lost. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas Done. ;-) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#.22Libo.22_mascot David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi David, thanks for the research work :-) I just wanted to mention that, because I won't be able to comment on the rest of the threads at the moment. Moreover, it would be great if you could link your mail (along with some paper plane considerations) from within the Marketing Ideas page [1] - so it doesn't get lost. Cheers, Christoph [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas Am Donnerstag, den 04.11.2010, 07:54 +0800 schrieb David Nelson: Hi Lucas guys, :-) I didn't find any usage of paper plane logos/graphics that, IMHO, precludes adopting Lucas Filho's idea. The companies/organizations using a paper plane-based logo probably have less name recognition than LibO can potentially acquire. IANAL, but I imagine there wouldn't be any copyright problem, especially if one came up with something having its own originality. In any case, a sheet of paper is a pretty ubiquitous thing, too, so maybe the same issues would apply to TDF's current logo? Below are some quick research results for your consideration. HTH. David Nelson Paper planes research: === Uses a paper plane in their logo: http://paperplane-studio.blogspot.com/ http://paperplane.net/ http://www.paperplane.co.nz/ http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/ Uses paper plane in their name: http://www.paperplanestudio.com/newfiles/paper.html http://www.paperplanemag.com/ http://www.myspace.com/paperplaneproject http://pubget.com/help/paper_plane http://littlepaperplanes.com/ http://www.paperplane.com.au/ (Drupal logo is their favicon...) http://www.paper-plane.fr/ (cloud graphic as logo) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Planes (might grant permission to use excerpt from their music?) http://www.gotopaperplane.com/ http://www.paperplane.co.nz/ http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/ http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/ Uses a paper plane in a prominent graphic: http://paperplane.net/ http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/ http://www.paperplane.com.au/ http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/ Fun stuff about making paper planes: http://www.paperplane.org/ http://www.paperairplanes.co.uk/planes.php http://www.origami-kids.com/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2768368762284821227# http://www.amazingpaperairplanes.com/ http://paperairplaneshq.com/ http://www.bestpaperairplanes.com/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/planes/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On Friday 05 Nov 2010 22:36:20 Manfred Usselmann wrote: Hi, On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Lucas Filho lucas...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Hello Community, I did some sketches using the idea of the paper airplane and a small set of icons, We provide the link [1]. Drafts and are not bothered with the sample color palette. There are two versions A and B. And I'd like to see other examples of the same element. And whether the idea of the paper airplane must evolve or not so that I and other friends are not redoing something that can not be used. [1]: http://picasaweb.google.com/lucascoe/Diversos?feat=directlink The paper plane is a nice idea, but I'm not sure if it is really suitable. I associate it with a) air mail and b) childhood / toy. Manfred People will always have different associations for logos and that doesn't really matter unless it has a high profile attachment to another brand or similar. Now that I've seen so many other paper plane icons I'm thinking that it fails because it is not unique. The page with the folded corner is however, quite unique. Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On Saturday 06 Nov 2010 01:49:34 David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 20:06, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: People will always have different associations for logos and that doesn't really matter unless it has a high profile attachment to another brand or similar. Now that I've seen so many other paper plane icons I'm thinking that it fails because it is not unique. The page with the folded corner is however, quite unique. +1 for Lucas' paper plane. :-D Personally, the folded corner doesn't trigger any such association in my mind. I had to read that in the list to realize that's what it was supposed to be. It's not supposed to trigger any association at this point. It's necessary to look at the branding long term At least the paper plane looks clearly like what it is. And,IMHO, there weren't *so many* paper plane logos. More than one is too many, One large corporate such as laPoste is more than too many. Branding is about having unique image that eventually is immediately identified with the product or service. Plus LibO's is likely to be the most-recognized worldwide. The important thing would be for LibO's paper plane to have its own originality? Plus I feel the concept has a lot of flexibility and open-endedness... Originality and uniqueness are the key indeed, I'm just saying that the paper plane while cool in concept is not sufficiently unique or original unfortunately. Does the Folded corner page, fulfil the criteria? Moreso than the paper plane. Have a read of Paul Rand, Rand designed the IBM logo as well as a few other iconic brands in the US, Westinghouse, UPS and ABC. He is considered the father of modern branding by many. He explains it better than I can. http://www.paul-rand.com/site/thoughts_logosflags/ Cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Le 2010-11-03 19:54, David Nelson a écrit : Hi Lucas guys, :-) I didn't find any usage of paper plane logos/graphics that, IMHO, precludes adopting Lucas Filho's idea. The companies/organizations using a paper plane-based logo probably have less name recognition than LibO can potentially acquire. IANAL, but I imagine there wouldn't be any copyright problem, especially if one came up with something having its own originality. In any case, a sheet of paper is a pretty ubiquitous thing, too, so maybe the same issues would apply to TDF's current logo? Below are some quick research results for your consideration. HTH. David Nelson Thanks David: I've added my comments on some of these too. Marc Paper planes research: === Uses a paper plane in their logo: http://paperplane-studio.blogspot.com/ http://paperplane.net/ http://www.paperplane.co.nz/ This next one has a neat flash effect with the paper plane. http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/ Uses paper plane in their name: http://www.paperplanestudio.com/newfiles/paper.html http://www.paperplanemag.com/ http://www.myspace.com/paperplaneproject This next one has a nice icon -- slanted http://pubget.com/help/paper_plane http://littlepaperplanes.com/ http://www.paperplane.com.au/ (Drupal logo is their favicon...) http://www.paper-plane.fr/ (cloud graphic as logo) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Planes (might grant permission to use excerpt from their music?) Hmmm, they used gun shots for the register sounds and there is some kind of political overtone to the song. But, hey, from a marketing point of view we could perhaps run a contest for a LibO paperplane icon song.? http://www.gotopaperplane.com/ This next one has a small paper plane icon -- nice if you want a subtle icon effect http://www.paperplane.co.nz/ http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/ This next one has a folding paper plane icon http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/ Uses a paper plane in a prominent graphic: http://paperplane.net/ This next one has a larger icon, different shape. http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/ http://www.paperplane.com.au/ http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/ Fun stuff about making paper planes: This next one has a flying paper plane and music. http://www.paperplane.org/ http://www.paperairplanes.co.uk/planes.php http://www.origami-kids.com/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2768368762284821227# http://www.amazingpaperairplanes.com/ http://paperairplaneshq.com/ http://www.bestpaperairplanes.com/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/planes/ Has a sort of paperplane logo. http://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/languageswitcher.jsf -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hellow, link: http://www.elyseeinside.fr/2009/06/16/projet-de-loi-luc-chatel-propose-une-modernisation-de-la-poste/ Até mais, Lucas Filho Open-Ce Tecnologias e Serviços http://www.open-ce.com.br ::@strogildo - Educação a distância http://astrogildo.blogspot.com Coordenador Estadual GUBRO-Ceará http://www.broffice.org/gubro-ce Blog Pessoal http://lucasfilho.blogspot.com Agradecemos a Deus por tudo - Mensagem original De: Monfort Florian florian.monf...@gmail.com Para: marketing@libreoffice.org Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 4 de Novembro de 2010 13:22:06 Assunto: RE: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon? Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 à 20:27 +, Brenden Seibel a écrit : Love the paper plane idea. Brenden -Original Message- From: Graham Lauder [mailto:yori...@openoffice.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:25 PM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon? On Thursday 04 Nov 2010 04:56:55 Benjamin Horst wrote: On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit : Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a natural development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be made into something that fires empathy in the young and old, the simple and the sophisticated. What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man into Pinnochio? David Nelson I don't think you would need to personify it. How about when you start a document, the logo starts off with the LibO logo that we have worked on and the more you type, the more the folds of a paper plane appear, and then the logo shows a paper plane outline to finally its final shape of a paper plane ready to fly ... it is done! I am liking the paper plane icon concept more and more, as well. To go along with the icon, we could create various folding templates for different paper plane designs, put a LibO icon on them in prominent places, and distribute them digitally as ODGs and PDFs. We could print them out for conferences, and let people pick them up and fold them using instructions printed as part of the template. There are many great designs to be found online, such as these: http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/Plane%20Downloads.html -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com This could be the basis of an extremely good marketing campaign. LibreO -Fly the Plane or something similar, paper plane designs on line, in templates and extensions. I'm coming round, I like it a lot, certainly as a launch platform. LibreO takes Flight and so on cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Hello all, In deed I should have thought of that before. La Poste uses a paper plane. It's the postal service we use in France, and maybe this company is also present in other countries. It's even a bank now if I remember well. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit : Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a natural development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be made into something that fires empathy in the young and old, the simple and the sophisticated. What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man into Pinnochio? David Nelson I don't think you would need to personify it. How about when you start a document, the logo starts off with the LibO logo that we have worked on and the more you type, the more the folds of a paper plane appear, and then the logo shows a paper plane outline to finally its final shape of a paper plane ready to fly ... it is done! I am liking the paper plane icon concept more and more, as well. To go along with the icon, we could create various folding templates for different paper plane designs, put a LibO icon on them in prominent places, and distribute them digitally as ODGs and PDFs. We could print them out for conferences, and let people pick them up and fold them using instructions printed as part of the template. There are many great designs to be found online, such as these: http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/Plane%20Downloads.html -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Love the paper plane idea. Brenden -Original Message- From: Graham Lauder [mailto:yori...@openoffice.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:25 PM To: marketing@libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon? On Thursday 04 Nov 2010 04:56:55 Benjamin Horst wrote: On Nov 2, 2010, at 10:27 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit : Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a natural development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be made into something that fires empathy in the young and old, the simple and the sophisticated. What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man into Pinnochio? David Nelson I don't think you would need to personify it. How about when you start a document, the logo starts off with the LibO logo that we have worked on and the more you type, the more the folds of a paper plane appear, and then the logo shows a paper plane outline to finally its final shape of a paper plane ready to fly ... it is done! I am liking the paper plane icon concept more and more, as well. To go along with the icon, we could create various folding templates for different paper plane designs, put a LibO icon on them in prominent places, and distribute them digitally as ODGs and PDFs. We could print them out for conferences, and let people pick them up and fold them using instructions printed as part of the template. There are many great designs to be found online, such as these: http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/Plane%20Downloads.html -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com This could be the basis of an extremely good marketing campaign. LibreO -Fly the Plane or something similar, paper plane designs on line, in templates and extensions. I'm coming round, I like it a lot, certainly as a launch platform. LibreO takes Flight and so on cheers GL -- Graham Lauder, OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Open Technologies) www.theingots.org -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi Marc, all! Sorry for being a bit late - missed the plane (sorry, bad joke *g*). I just have a few-hours-timeslot for answering mails which was partly filled with the today's SC meeting. So well ... Am Dienstag, den 02.11.2010, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Marc Paré: Before we do this. Is there any business or organization that uses a paper airplane as a logo? However, when we thought about the LibO branding, we also thought about the paper plane idea, but we did not use it for one main (let's call it) reason. Marc, as you said, we didn't knew exactly about other organizations and their logos. I remember that I saw something like that for a postal service or so. But we didn't investigate here too much. Maybe you can start here I know that some people think the current logo misses a personal touch ... to be honest, I thought that we might have something like Duke (the Java mascot). But I really miss the design skills to turn a document into a cool, thrilling and funny thing (the triangles being the hat, the eyebrows, ...). Anybody with a pencil and a sheet of paper? :-) Just my thoughts ... Cheers, Christoph -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi, :-) Am Dienstag, den 02.11.2010, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Marc Paré: Before we do this. Is there any business or organization that uses a paper airplane as a logo? I can find a few hours today. Unless anyone's got a better plan, I propose to do a bit of footwork and do some checking to see if the idea is being used by any other organization... That might save Lucas some time while he thinks more about his concept. So I'll report back on this thread later. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi Lucas guys, :-) I didn't find any usage of paper plane logos/graphics that, IMHO, precludes adopting Lucas Filho's idea. The companies/organizations using a paper plane-based logo probably have less name recognition than LibO can potentially acquire. IANAL, but I imagine there wouldn't be any copyright problem, especially if one came up with something having its own originality. In any case, a sheet of paper is a pretty ubiquitous thing, too, so maybe the same issues would apply to TDF's current logo? Below are some quick research results for your consideration. HTH. David Nelson Paper planes research: === Uses a paper plane in their logo: http://paperplane-studio.blogspot.com/ http://paperplane.net/ http://www.paperplane.co.nz/ http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/ Uses paper plane in their name: http://www.paperplanestudio.com/newfiles/paper.html http://www.paperplanemag.com/ http://www.myspace.com/paperplaneproject http://pubget.com/help/paper_plane http://littlepaperplanes.com/ http://www.paperplane.com.au/ (Drupal logo is their favicon...) http://www.paper-plane.fr/ (cloud graphic as logo) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Planes (might grant permission to use excerpt from their music?) http://www.gotopaperplane.com/ http://www.paperplane.co.nz/ http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/ http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/ Uses a paper plane in a prominent graphic: http://paperplane.net/ http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/ http://www.paperplane.com.au/ http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/ Fun stuff about making paper planes: http://www.paperplane.org/ http://www.paperairplanes.co.uk/planes.php http://www.origami-kids.com/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2768368762284821227# http://www.amazingpaperairplanes.com/ http://paperairplaneshq.com/ http://www.bestpaperairplanes.com/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/planes/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?
Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit : Hi Lucas, :-) I remember you brought this subject up before. I remember it didn't really inspire me at that time, but I think I've changed my mind. I have mentioned a couple of times in threads that I find the current sheet of paper logo to be static, and to be lacking sharp identity and recognizability. I was suggesting that LibO needed a living character along the lines of Linux's Tux the penguin. I felt that such a character could be declined/derived for multiple uses and needs, and could quickly acquire a life of its own. I visualize something that can be used in graphics and animations. On second consideration of your idea, I feel it could have great potential. It has the simplicity of genius, so seemingly trivial that one could discard the notion without a second thought. But I think you may have hit on the idea of the century for LibO. Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a natural development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be made into something that fires empathy in the young and old, the simple and the sophisticated. What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man into Pinnochio? I would warmly encourage you to keep working on your concept. If I can be of assistance in any way, please feel free to contact me. I think this idea could be a real winner, and has some brilliance. Lots of potential. My 0.2 cents. I'm really hoping that second thoughts about it will inspire people in the project. I'll be watching out to hear more about your invention. David Nelson Yes, we could have two discussions about this. One on this side with this thread and the other (we will monitor it) on the discuss list. Before we do this. Is there any business or organization that uses a paper airplane as a logo? I can't think of any off the top of my head in my region. Is there a way to research this? Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?
Le 2010-11-02 19:58, David Nelson a écrit : Your paper plane fits in superbly with the paper sheet, as a natural development thereof. The possibilities are many. It can be made into something that fires empathy in the young and old, the simple and the sophisticated. What do you think about the idea of giving it eyes, or some kind of face? Can you find a way to breathe life into it, like the old man into Pinnochio? David Nelson I don't think you would need to personify it. How about when you start a document, the logo starts off with the LibO logo that we have worked on and the more you type, the more the folds of a paper plane appear, and then the logo shows a paper plane outline to finally its final shape of a paper plane ready to fly ... it is done! Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
