Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Portuguese LibreOffice Comunitty Logo

2012-02-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Charles-H.Schulz wrote on 2012-02-19 14:15:


What do the others think? Might this approach be better than adding a
graphical element to our paper clip icon? From a legal point of view, it
definitely is better, I don't feel too comfortable with allowing major
modifications to our logo...


I indeed like it very much.


Adriano, would that work for you?

Florian

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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Portuguese LibreOffice Comunitty Logo

2012-02-20 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-02-20 12:59, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi,

Charles-H.Schulz wrote on 2012-02-19 14:15:


What do the others think? Might this approach be better than adding a
graphical element to our paper clip icon? From a legal point of view, it
definitely is better, I don't feel too comfortable with allowing major
modifications to our logo...


I indeed like it very much.


Adriano, would that work for you?

Florian



You should perhaps specify if the TDF subline should be used or not. 
Perhaps the following could work?:


==

For the use of the TDF subline, there should be a process where a group 
applies for its official recognized use and gets permission from TDF.


For the use without a subline, then any NL group could make use of it, 
recognizing the fact that its use does not in any way infer support from 
the TDF officially.


==

This would essentially be the same rules as the use of the LibreOffice 
logo with or without subline.


If this were the case, then we could post the logo + NL panel logo to 
the wiki for groups to make use of it, if they wish. [1]


Cheers,

Marc

[1] 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Logo_resources_for_community_members_and_external_use



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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Portuguese LibreOffice Comunitty Logo

2012-02-20 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-02-20 14:59, Charles-H.Schulz a écrit :

Actually that's where this (useful) discussion overlaps with another
(useful) discussion about NGOs working with TDF. We had it in Paris at
the conference so we know the general lines and criteria, but I would
only and strictly reserve the subline for specific cases and with a
written agreement between TDF and the said NGO.

Best,
Charles.


Hi Charles,

That is what I was hoping. If there is an agreed policy on this, then it 
should be inserted into the wiki page so that everyone is under the same 
understanding.


Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Portuguese LibreOffice Comunitty Logo

2012-02-19 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Marc Paré wrote on 2012-02-16 19:59:

At some point, a few months ago, there had been talk of using the
LibreOffice Logo with a country subline but more of an added panel to
the logo. I actually prefer this type of treatment of identifying the
community rather than modifying our trademarked icon. I know that during
these discussions, there was talk of keeping the country-flag out of the
panel, and references with problems that had occurred during the days of
OOo and use of country flags. You can find some of the suggested samples
that were given by Helio Ferreira here:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_01.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_02.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_03.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_04.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_05.png


I must confess that I like this approach much better - thank you very 
much for sharing!


By that, we could combine local elements with the logo, without touching 
the latter one.


What do the others think? Might this approach be better than adding a 
graphical element to our paper clip icon? From a legal point of view, it 
definitely is better, I don't feel too comfortable with allowing major 
modifications to our logo...


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Portuguese LibreOffice Comunitty Logo

2012-02-19 Thread Charles-H.Schulz
Le dimanche 19 février 2012 à 11:06 +0100, Florian Effenberger a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Marc Paré wrote on 2012-02-16 19:59:
  At some point, a few months ago, there had been talk of using the
  LibreOffice Logo with a country subline but more of an added panel to
  the logo. I actually prefer this type of treatment of identifying the
  community rather than modifying our trademarked icon. I know that during
  these discussions, there was talk of keeping the country-flag out of the
  panel, and references with problems that had occurred during the days of
  OOo and use of country flags. You can find some of the suggested samples
  that were given by Helio Ferreira here:
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_01.png
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_02.png
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_03.png
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_04.png
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_05.png
 
 I must confess that I like this approach much better - thank you very 
 much for sharing!
 
 By that, we could combine local elements with the logo, without touching 
 the latter one.
 
 What do the others think? Might this approach be better than adding a 
 graphical element to our paper clip icon? From a legal point of view, it 
 definitely is better, I don't feel too comfortable with allowing major 
 modifications to our logo...

I indeed like it very much.

best,

Charles.

 
 Florian
 
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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Portuguese LibreOffice Comunitty Logo

2012-02-16 Thread Marc Paré

Le 2012-02-16 06:47, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hello,

Adriano Afonso wrote on 2012-02-04 03:57:

I already have a new versions using the community logo here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficePT.png
(If you also administrate the wiki, can you please delete the other?
thanks)


unfortunately, I didn't have time yet do check with our trademark policy
- sorry for that, foundation legal stuff kept me quite busy.

What do others think? I didn't see many replies yet, and since the
trademark policy should serve the protection of the brand, and at the
same time support the community efforts, I'd like to hear some thoughts
on that. :-)

Thanks,
Florian



I personally think the concept is a good idea. It would help in 
fostering a sense of community attachment but more at the local level. 
It would also signal the fact that there is an active local community 
with feet on the ground who are there to help -- local conferences 
etc. But I also believe that this would set a precedent with modifying 
the trademarked logo.


At some point, a few months ago, there had been talk of using the 
LibreOffice Logo with a country subline but more of an added panel to 
the logo. I actually prefer this type of treatment of identifying the 
community rather than modifying our trademarked icon. I know that during 
these discussions, there was talk of keeping the country-flag out of the 
panel, and references with problems that had occurred during the days of 
OOo and use of country flags. You can find some of the suggested samples 
that were given by Helio Ferreira here:


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_01.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_02.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_03.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_04.png

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1582639/logo_libre_venezuela_05.png


It would be nice if there were some way of recognizing community 
involvement, through the use of our logo.


For reference, you may also want to review the discussions that we had 
over this on the following threads:


[1] 
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/1753


[2] 
http://www.mail-archive.com/board-discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg00788.html


Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Portuguese LibreOffice Comunitty Logo

2012-02-16 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Tim,

Le 2012-02-16 13:40, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :

On 02/16/2012 08:13 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2012-02-16 13:32:

Can it be used for other groups?
I like something like that for advertising LO on a web site, or on a
brochure.


what exactly do you mean by something like that? ;-) In what way
would you like to modify the logo?

Florian


I like the bird inside the LO icon.

There was talk about creating a mascot/character for some types of
advertising, like on shirts and hats. The bird looks nice but is maybe
to stylized for a mascot image that would attract the younger crowd.




I think you have gotten the subject of this discussion confused. Adriano 
has submitted an sample for a Portuguese-styled logo for his community 
and not a mascot proposal. It is really a proposal for a 
country-specific LibreOffice logo.


Cheers,

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Portuguese LibreOffice Comunitty Logo

2012-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 02/16/2012 02:07 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

Hi Tim,

Le 2012-02-16 13:40, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :

On 02/16/2012 08:13 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2012-02-16 13:32:

Can it be used for other groups?
I like something like that for advertising LO on a web site, or on a
brochure.


what exactly do you mean by something like that? ;-) In what way
would you like to modify the logo?

Florian


I like the bird inside the LO icon.

There was talk about creating a mascot/character for some types of
advertising, like on shirts and hats. The bird looks nice but is maybe
to stylized for a mascot image that would attract the younger crowd.




I think you have gotten the subject of this discussion confused. 
Adriano has submitted an sample for a Portuguese-styled logo for his 
community and not a mascot proposal. It is really a proposal for a 
country-specific LibreOffice logo.


Cheers,

Marc


Yes, I know this was specific for their region, BUT, it would still be 
nice to have a mascot image that the regional icons could be a part of.


We need to get one international mascot that can also be modified like 
the icon.  Having a larger mascot for a shirt image that is wearing a 
shirt himself/herself that has a regional icon on it.  That would make 
it an international image with a regional flair as well.




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