Re: [libreoffice-marketing] help please - accessibility info
Hi Charles, all, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-03-03 12:12 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not want to be a part of the Accessibility List, but I would like to know what is being done to help those with this type of issue. Wrong list. If you want to learn about whales, you don't ask about them on the telephones list. Wrong assumption. Marketing is about spreading LibreOffice and thus about spreading information about it's features. Even if the disabled are a marketing area neglected by many other products - I don't think that we need to follow this way. In the opposite: We should consider Accessibility Marketing as an important part of our strategy. If we didn't by now, this is neither Timothy's nor any other's fault. Wrong comparison. He doesn't want to learn to talk to whales, but asks for information about whales on the list of a mammal research institute. Wrong tone. If you don't have any *positive* contribution it is far better to shut up and let others comment his request. Providing him with the necessary links to find out himself as Drew did would have helped much. And using this posting as basis for the creation of a dedicated marketing activity about accessibility would be even better... Best regards Bernhard PS: And if you think it is better to subscribe to a list and unsubscribe after a few days - that's your opinion and you could have told this in a friendly manner. Do you know how easy it is for impaired people? I don't - and neither me nor you have the right to judge. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] help please - accessibility info
On 03/04/2011 09:09 AM, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi Charles, all, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-03-03 12:12 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not want to be a part of the Accessibility List, but I would like to know what is being done to help those with this type of issue. Wrong list. If you want to learn about whales, you don't ask about them on the telephones list. Wrong assumption. Marketing is about spreading LibreOffice and thus about spreading information about it's features. Even if the disabled are a marketing area neglected by many other products - I don't think that we need to follow this way. In the opposite: We should consider Accessibility Marketing as an important part of our strategy. If we didn't by now, this is neither Timothy's nor any other's fault. Thanks Bernhard. I get ticked-off [I would use other language, but not here] when people do not seem to want to deal with helping people with accessibility issues within their packages. As I understand it, from staff on agencies that work with the disables/impaired individuals, the numbers of individuals needing accessibility options is a growing percent of the population in the USA. I am one of those individuals. I have learned to compensate for my issues since the early 1970's. My typing skill is affected but back when I started typing, there was no options to use to help people. With the spread of speech-to-screen computer controlling packages, this helps many individuals, but not me. My speech is also affected since my first stroke. But, I deal with it my own way. So it would be nice to get information to be passed on to those agency staffers. I did get someone to point me to a wiki page to help me see the goals of the LibreOffice Accessibility work. I thank that individual for his help. Wrong comparison. He doesn't want to learn to talk to whales, but asks for information about whales on the list of a mammal research institute. Wrong tone. If you don't have any *positive* contribution it is far better to shut up and let others comment his request. Providing him with the necessary links to find out himself as Drew did would have helped much. And using this posting as basis for the creation of a dedicated marketing activity about accessibility would be even better... Best regards Bernhard PS: And if you think it is better to subscribe to a list and unsubscribe after a few days - that's your opinion and you could have told this in a friendly manner. Do you know how easy it is for impaired people? I don't - and neither me nor you have the right to judge. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] help please - accessibility info
help please - accessibility info I do not want to be a part of the Accessibility List, but I would like to know what is being done to help those with this type of issue. I am on the Board of the Kiwanis Aktion Club of Elmira New York. This Kiwanis family organization [International, Regional, and Local] is dedicated to the adult community that have a disability or some type. You must be an adult with a disability/impairment to be invited to become a member. So, I am always interested in ways for software packages [and computers in general] to be accessible to the needs of those with disabilities/impairments, to allow these individuals to be able to use the products. I deal with many members with hand injury issues to developmental issues. I deal with a few blind individuals as well, but that that is a much harder impairment issue group to use computers, except through voice controlled and text reading systems. Could I receive some information on what is in the future of LibreOffice's accessibility efforts? Would a list of what some needs for some the various disables/impaired individuals to make a software package fulfill those needs? I myself and physical impairments and other issues placed upon me from several major injuries and three strokes. That is why I am volunteering my time to help those who have it difficult to function in the local community like myself. T. Lungstrom Board Member of the Kiwanis Aktion Club of Elmira NY, part of the Kiwanis Family of Organizations that support the local, regional, and world communities. Kiwanis Aktion Club web sites: International site: http://www.aktionclub.org/Home.aspx Local Chapter: http://www.aktionclub-elmira.org/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] help please - accessibility info
On 2011-03-03 12:12 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not want to be a part of the Accessibility List, but I would like to know what is being done to help those with this type of issue. Wrong list. If you want to learn about whales, you don't ask about them on the telephones list. -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] help please - accessibility info
On 03/03/2011 01:08 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-03-03 12:12 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not want to be a part of the Accessibility List, but I would like to know what is being done to help those with this type of issue. Wrong list. If you want to learn about whales, you don't ask about them on the telephones list. Could someone who is on that list forward my request? Does someone have to be on that list to get accessibility info? I did state that I do not want to be a part of the Accessibility list but would like some information. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] help please - accessibility info
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 16:42 -0500, drew wrote: On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 16:16 -0500, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Someone on this list must know where I can get my answers without subscribing to the various list. Ok - let's start here - have you looked at the wiki page? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility If you start with that page, what other information are you looking for? sorry for answering myself - but - for one thing the extensions information is well a bit weak, the information regarding ODTBraille.oxt is not present and the others lacking, IMO. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
