Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Marc Paré wrote: BTW ... Do you know if OOo4Kids is supporting the LibO project? I merely had a look at what Eric Bachard, ideator of OOo4Kids, wrote. Of course, I cannot speak for OOo4Kids and I am not an active member of the OOo Education project. On 28 September he posted a short No LibreOffice for me statement that seems removed now; it was supposed to live at (URL includes ellipsis) http://eric.bachard.org/news/index.php?post/2010/09/28/No-LibreInfo-for-me-... Then I remember seeing an article about EducOOo aiming at being agnostic with respect to OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice but I can't find it now. Regards, Andrea. -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Hi Marc, On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-21 00:51, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit : Hi Marc, You should have a look at OOo Education Project and OOo4Kids fork. Whatever I think about forks ( ;-) ), OOo4Kids has several good ideas to adapt OOo to children. The main idea is not to add functions but to remove/hide the functions that are too complex or not used in educational context. Best regards. JBF PS. French speaking mailing lists are open : http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists#French Bonjour Jean-Baptiste: Actually, I think there is a thread somewhere on the mailists where there was talk of theming the LibO suite and some of this could be used to theme the menu list. There was a debate as to when you could theme, either at installation or after installation. I would prefer after installation and an Educational Theme could be installed that would change the menus list and perhaps add more educationally related extensions, cliparts, themes etc. Obviously this would have to be coordinated with an interested dev. BTW ... Do you know if OOo4Kids is supporting the LibO project? I would say no, but it's very difficult to know in fact (it mays depend of the blowing wind ;). As you're able to read French, I'll send you tomorrow some updated comments from Eric Bachard on several forum this last days, you'll be able to make up your mind by yourself. Of course, he can't bear several of us here, but that's not the topic. Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Le 2010-10-21 14:10, Sophie Gautier a écrit : BTW ... Do you know if OOo4Kids is supporting the LibO project? I would say no, but it's very difficult to know in fact (it mays depend of the blowing wind ;). As you're able to read French, I'll send you tomorrow some updated comments from Eric Bachard on several forum this last days, you'll be able to make up your mind by yourself. Of course, he can't bear several of us here, but that's not the topic. Kind regards Sophie Thanks Andrea and Sophie Sophie, it would be nice to read some comments, I'll also take a peek there too! Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Le 2010-10-20 12:40, James Walker a écrit : You know, my biggest thought is that if we want to get LibO into a more widespread acceptance then we have to get into the Schools. You tend to stick with what you learn first and that should be our number 1 goal. James I agree totally. I am also a piano tuner by trade and have worked at many universities. One of the marketing techniques that piano firms use it selling at deep discount to school systems and universities. The students get used to the brand and they tend to stick to the brand once they purchase a personal piano. By some respects, Steinway had done the same thing in the US and it has helped to keep the Steinway brand alive and popular in many regions of the US. Yamaha has used the same technique and has penetrated the Canadian educational system quite deeply (not too sure about US ). The same could be said for Apple and its marketing techniques in both US and Canadian educational systems. If one of our marketing techniques could concentrate on the educational system, then we could probably have the same kind of success. However, the biggest issue, in my experience, is that of IT and user level support. We would have to make sure that this is covered. I guess this should be discussed in the LibO in Education thread. I'll copy this to that thread. Marc -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Le 2010-10-19 19:18, Benjamin Horst a écrit : Promoting LibreOffice as a symbiotic tool to use along with Google Docs would probably be a successful approach. It provides value-add in terms of a larger featureset and support for much more complex documents, while also eliminating the risk of losing all productivity if you're forced offline for whatever reason. And the extension Graham suggests is the glue that lets them work together. -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com Agreed and good idea! We will have to take a closer look at this when establishing our rationale for the educational advantages of the suite. Marc Paré Waterloo, Canada Marketing Team Member -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Le 2010-10-17 19:27, Sadiq Saif a écrit : Price may be one marketing point, though this may be offset by training and support costs. But we must keep in mind the huge amount of mind share that MS Office has build up over the years. People are too used to Office and how it works. In fact even if LibreOffice is better (we hope) than MS Office, we still won't see a widespread adoption of LibreOffice or FOSS software for that matter. I am pretty sure that big school boards like the TDSB have contracts with Microsoft as well. Sadiq S mailto: sadiq.9...@gmail.com Blog: www.staticsafe.me Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: Thanks for the note Sadiq. Yes, the training and support costs could be a problem if LibO does not have the infrastructure to take care of a general use help desk type of mailist. But so far, the user mailist on OOo has been great. Our new LibO user mailist is new and is just started to attract attention from users. We just have to market it properly. BTW, you speak of large boards like the TDSB. Are you Canadian? Marc Waterloo, Canada -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO in Education (JK-High School and NOT post grad. university/college)
Yes, indeed I'm a Canadian living in Toronto and a student in the TDSB. Sadiq S mailto: sadiq.9...@gmail.com Blog: www.staticsafe.me Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-10-17 19:27, Sadiq Saif a écrit : Price may be one marketing point, though this may be offset by training and support costs. But we must keep in mind the huge amount of mind share that MS Office has build up over the years. People are too used to Office and how it works. In fact even if LibreOffice is better (we hope) than MS Office, we still won't see a widespread adoption of LibreOffice or FOSS software for that matter. I am pretty sure that big school boards like the TDSB have contracts with Microsoft as well. Sadiq S mailto: sadiq.9...@gmail.com Blog: www.staticsafe.me Twitter - www.twitter.com/staticsafe Facebook- www.facebook.com/static.safe On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Marc Parém...@marcpare.com wrote: Thanks for the note Sadiq. Yes, the training and support costs could be a problem if LibO does not have the infrastructure to take care of a general use help desk type of mailist. But so far, the user mailist on OOo has been great. Our new LibO user mailist is new and is just started to attract attention from users. We just have to market it properly. BTW, you speak of large boards like the TDSB. Are you Canadian? Marc Waterloo, Canada -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.orgfor instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
