Introduction
Hello, everybody! My name is Fabian A. Scherschel and I'm involved with the Design Team currently but I wanted to join this list for ages. I've always been interested in PR and marketing and I want to get more involved in that side of Fedora. To tell you a bit about my background: I've got involved with Linux in 2005 and switched full-time to it at the end of 2006. I was first running Ubuntu and switched to Fedora when F12 came out. I also host and produce a pretty well-known Linux podcast [1] that I started with a friend in 2007. Through that and my involvment in microblogging (first Jaiku, now identi.ca) I've come into contact with a lot of people in the Linux community and that and my experiences at work (I work part-time in end user tech support) have probably sparked my interest in getting Linux into as many hands as possible. If you want to know any more about me, just ask or follow me on identi.ca [2]. ;) Looking forward to working with you all. Fab [1] http://linuxoutlaws.com [2] http://identi.ca/fabsh # Sixgun Productions — New media, new rules # http://sixgun.org -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Social networking is dead.
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 02:30:21PM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: On 03/01/2011 02:22 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: OK, not really, but I got your attention. Yes, you did ;) But our social networking feeds are kinda dead. More specifically, our identi.ca/Twitter @fedora output. They're silent, like a ninja only without nunchucks or throwing stars. In large part this is thanks to HootSuite's closing up their entire value prop to paid customers only, leaving free accounts like ours dangling in the wind. What's that? Putting some of our eggs in a non-free basket didn't work out? Well, it's a risk we took with eyes open, at least. It was the least ineffective of a lot of suboptimal alternatives, and at least for a while it was working well. The sad fallout is that our identi.ca/twitter feeds are quiet, and we should endeavor to fix that. I did have an idea about this, but it won't help us in the short term: to manage access to our identi.ca feed through Insight via a well-supported Drupal module. There are a couple to choose from, and the great thing is all the group access would happen automagically thanks to our existing FAS integration. But... that doesn't help us *right now*. AFAICT, there are no free services that facilitate team sharing of identi.ca/twitter duties. There are several aggregators out there, and several multiplexers, but none for collaboration. Rather than wait for one to emerge, we should get the access into the right people's hands now, and look for a better solution immediately after that (up to and including the idea above). The fastest way to fix the problem, I believe, is to simply send out the password to the identi.ca account, via GPG-encrypted email, to each of the people listed in our FAS group. Is that acceptable? I think that's perfectly acceptable. The question is: What do we have as a plan going forward as far as what we want to start saying there? Or, at this point, is anything acceptable, so long as we're seeing something happening? I've sent the password on to all the people on the HS list for whom I had reliable email and GPG keys (Maria, Jared, Robyn, Jonathan). If anyone else wants access, you're welcome to become part of the team and work with those folks. Robyn, there is a microblogging SOP already written on the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Status_and_microblogging_SOP I would recommend that anyone who wants to help should read the entire page, since it includes information on microblogging target audience, suggested items, things to be avoided, and even some examples of content. The feed should be a constantly positive stream of information -- not ignoring issues, but striving to present factual information in a helpful and positive manner. Questions about the plan going forward? Well, you guys were at the same Marketing FAD I was at... what do *YOU* want to do? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
[In the news] Kororaa GNU/Linux is back
Hi http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/45585-kororaa-gnulinux-is-back Always having been a bit of a distro-hopper, I went back to Debian, then to Ubuntu, but I was never happy. I have always been drawn to Fedora because of many reasons, but primarily their freedom drivers (promoting free culture and free software over proprietary solutions), but also because they stick to upstream and improve it there for the benefit of everyone, rather than doing their own thing. Fedora is responsible for many of the great desktop enhancements we take for granted today, like AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX), D-Bus, DeviceKit, HAL, NetworkManager, Ogg Theora, and PolicyKit. Rahul -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Social networking is dead.
Hi, Paul! On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Robyn, there is a microblogging SOP already written on the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Status_and_microblogging_SOP From that page: While this is not necessarily the target audience for the distributionhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base, it is important to fit our messages to our perceived audience for the medium of microblogging. Comparing that to: - Voluntary Linux consumerhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_voluntary_Linux_consumer - Computer-friendlyhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_computer-friendly - Likely collaboratorhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_likely_collaborator - General productivity userhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_general_productivity_user I would say that especially identi.ca (from my experience there, I admit my personal feed is pretty pre-selected but nonetheless) fits all of these to a great extend. I think especially identi.ca can be an awesome PR tool for Fedora. I personally got probably 20+ people on there trying Fedora in the last 3 months alone. It's a very friendly audience to our cause. :) Fab -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Social networking is dead.
Oh, yeah, I know that. Sorry. What I was trying to say was that we shouldn't neglect microblogging because I think it could be a very good PR resource for us. Sorry if I was unclear Fab On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 04:27:16PM +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: Hi, Paul! On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Robyn, there is a microblogging SOP already written on the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Status_and_microblogging_SOP From that page: While this is not necessarily the target audience for the distributionhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base, it is important to fit our messages to our perceived audience for the medium of microblogging. Comparing that to: - Voluntary Linux consumer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_voluntary_Linux_consumer - Computer-friendly http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_computer-friendly - Likely collaborator http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_likely_collaborator - General productivity userhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_general_productivity_user I would say that especially identi.ca (from my experience there, I admit my personal feed is pretty pre-selected but nonetheless) fits all of these to a great extend. I think especially identi.ca can be an awesome PR tool for Fedora. I personally got probably 20+ people on there trying Fedora in the last 3 months alone. It's a very friendly audience to our cause. :) Hi Fab, We already use identi.ca as our source for microblogging. It feeds to our Twitter account. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Social networking is dead.
On 9 March 2011 15:51, Fabian A. Scherschel f...@sixgun.org wrote: Oh, yeah, I know that. Sorry. What I was trying to say was that we shouldn't neglect microblogging because I think it could be a very good PR resource for us. Sorry if I was unclear Fab On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 04:27:16PM +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: Hi, Paul! On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: Robyn, there is a microblogging SOP already written on the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Status_and_microblogging_SOP From that page: While this is not necessarily the target audience for the distributionhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base, it is important to fit our messages to our perceived audience for the medium of microblogging. Comparing that to: - Voluntary Linux consumerhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_voluntary_Linux_consumer - Computer-friendlyhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_computer-friendly - Likely collaboratorhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_likely_collaborator - General productivity userhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base_-_general_productivity_user I would say that especially identi.ca (from my experience there, I admit my personal feed is pretty pre-selected but nonetheless) fits all of these to a great extend. I think especially identi.ca can be an awesome PR tool for Fedora. I personally got probably 20+ people on there trying Fedora in the last 3 months alone. It's a very friendly audience to our cause. :) Hi Fab, We already use identi.ca as our source for microblogging. It feeds to our Twitter account. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing The lack of microblogging was more down to the technical difficulties we were having trying to find an alternative to HootSuite's collaboration services, I think. I'm liking the idea of using a Drupal module with FAS integration - How long will it take to get something like that in place? This lack of a collaboration feature is certainly a niche in the market ... Thanks, -- Luke Slater :O) -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Social networking is dead.
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Luke Slater tinmach...@gmail.com wrote: The lack of microblogging was more down to the technical difficulties we were having trying to find an alternative to HootSuite's collaboration services, I think. I'm liking the idea of using a Drupal module with FAS integration - How long will it take to get something like that in place? This lack of a collaboration feature is certainly a niche in the market ... Have we looked into if Status.net is offering anything like that? Maybe an enterprise feature but Evan is a cool guy and might give us a community account... Fab -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Social networking is dead.
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 04:51:22PM +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: Oh, yeah, I know that. Sorry. What I was trying to say was that we shouldn't neglect microblogging because I think it could be a very good PR resource for us. Sorry if I was unclear In that case... +2! The archives will show you what we were doing before, and what broke down. Basically, we accepted a risk in using an outside service to help power a team-based approach to microblogging. The service went away for all intents and purposes, so I've simply shipped out the password for the account to a number of people on the team so they can agree on and share the load for doing this work, according to the SOP. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Social networking is dead.
On Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 06:18:01PM +0100, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Luke Slater tinmach...@gmail.com wrote: The lack of microblogging was more down to the technical difficulties we were having trying to find an alternative to HootSuite's collaboration services, I think. I'm liking the idea of using a Drupal module with FAS integration - How long will it take to get something like that in place? This lack of a collaboration feature is certainly a niche in the market ... Have we looked into if Status.net is offering anything like that? Maybe an enterprise feature but Evan is a cool guy and might give us a community account... As I think was mentioned before on this list... http://status.net/open-source/issues/2947 Archives can be useful, I suggest you take a look at some of the previous discussions we've had regarding microblogging... I recall there were quite a few of them! :-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
