RE: [Fedora Magazine] Event Calendar
Hey ankur, Thanks for the reply. I totally I agree with you, if we maintain the fedocal then it would be very easy for us to put the events directly to the magazine(with iCal importing). But it would work only if we could set up different calendars on the fedocal according to the categories. I will open a ticket for that as Kevin suggested. So it would be helpful if you could suggest to FamSCo to make it mandatory for Ambassadors to add their events in the fedocal as well. Thanks! Zacharias Subject: Re: [Fedora Magazine] Event Calendar From: sanjay.an...@gmail.com To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:46:58 +1000 On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 00:30 +0300, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote: So I made some tests with the calendar, and it full supports iCal as an import option. The only problem now is that the Fedora Calendar doesn't have all the list of Events (Comparing with the events posted on wiki). So either way we have to post the events on our own, either on the magazine's calendar or in the fedora calendar.. And another problem when importing is that on the Fedora Calendar all the events are in one category (instead from the magazine which we categorize them to FUDcons, FAD, Release Parties etc..) So when importing we have to categorize them again. (except the meetings, which can sort them all under one category) Can this be avoided if we maintain different calendars on fedocal itself? Instead of a single Events calendar, we could have separate calendars for: Release parties FUDCons FADs Unconferences ... Or we could request upstream to include a fixed set of tags, if we want to keep the one calendar? (We already do categorize our events in this manner) A subset of all the calendars on fedocal can then be exported and picked up by fedora-magazine. I already see some events on fedocal, but it wouldn't be too much work to request FAmSCo to make this a mandatory step for all events. (I can go ahead and file a ticket myself.) Basically, I think it'll make more sense to keep fedocal the main calendar for everything in the project, since it's FAS accessible and then export required information to various places, including fedora-magazine. Would it also be possible to put a link to fedocal in the calendar page. Something like: There's a lot going on in Fedora all the time! The complete community calendar can be seen here: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar; And I would highly recommend to write the events directly to the magazine.. (Besides the events are few and I don't think that it would be a problem posting them to the calendar every day or two ;)..) If I'm not mistaken, only people who have write access to fedora-magazine can do this. I think adding events to fedocal and exporting them would be less work for you folks, since you won't have to keep a look out for new events and then manually update it, and simpler for the community. -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: [Fedora Magazine] Event Calendar
Hello! I think it would be more than enough to start only with events as Ankur says. Having the main events categories would be extremely helpful. I know Robert Mayr is working into some even more fancy calendar infra, but so far, I think we can go forward with this one. I'm attaching the mail to him in case he's not at the mail list and see if he gets the hint :D 2013/8/23 Zacharias Mitzelos zacharias.mitze...@gmail.com Hey ankur, Thanks for the reply. I totally I agree with you, if we maintain the fedocal then it would be very easy for us to put the events directly to the magazine(with iCal importing). But it would work only if we could set up different calendars on the fedocal according to the categories. I will open a ticket for that as Kevin suggested. So it would be helpful if you could suggest to FamSCo to make it mandatory for Ambassadors to add their events in the fedocal as well. Thanks! Zacharias Subject: Re: [Fedora Magazine] Event Calendar From: sanjay.an...@gmail.com To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:46:58 +1000 On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 00:30 +0300, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote: So I made some tests with the calendar, and it full supports iCal as an import option. The only problem now is that the Fedora Calendar doesn't have all the list of Events (Comparing with the events posted on wiki). So either way we have to post the events on our own, either on the magazine's calendar or in the fedora calendar.. And another problem when importing is that on the Fedora Calendar all the events are in one category (instead from the magazine which we categorize them to FUDcons, FAD, Release Parties etc..) So when importing we have to categorize them again. (except the meetings, which can sort them all under one category) Can this be avoided if we maintain different calendars on fedocal itself? Instead of a single Events calendar, we could have separate calendars for: Release parties FUDCons FADs Unconferences ... Or we could request upstream to include a fixed set of tags, if we want to keep the one calendar? (We already do categorize our events in this manner) A subset of all the calendars on fedocal can then be exported and picked up by fedora-magazine. I already see some events on fedocal, but it wouldn't be too much work to request FAmSCo to make this a mandatory step for all events. (I can go ahead and file a ticket myself.) Basically, I think it'll make more sense to keep fedocal the main calendar for everything in the project, since it's FAS accessible and then export required information to various places, including fedora-magazine. Would it also be possible to put a link to fedocal in the calendar page. Something like: There's a lot going on in Fedora all the time! The complete community calendar can be seen here: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar; And I would highly recommend to write the events directly to the magazine.. (Besides the events are few and I don't think that it would be a problem posting them to the calendar every day or two ;)..) If I'm not mistaken, only people who have write access to fedora-magazine can do this. I think adding events to fedocal and exporting them would be less work for you folks, since you won't have to keep a look out for new events and then manually update it, and simpler for the community. -- Thanks, Warm regards, Ankur (FranciscoD) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Join Fedora! Come talk to us! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:tatica LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56 -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fwd: Fedora Magazine Mailing list created
On 08/22/2013 07:11 PM, Chris Roberts wrote: Forwarding to Marketing list, Zacharis sent the message to the other groups. We now have a mailing list for the Magazine! Zacharias Mitzelos zacharias.mitze...@gmail.com 08/22/13 7:26 PM A new Fedora Magazine mailing list have been created, in order to write all about the Fedora magazine in this list, instead of the Marketing list.All info related to the magazine and updates will be sent to this mailing list. Anyone can signup.Subscribe here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/magazineRegards,Zacharias Mitzelos-- announce mailing listannounce@lists.fedoraproject.orghttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/announce Oh, good, another mailing list for which to sign up. ;-) My mailing list reminder day just got a little brighter... (I really wonder whether we needed a separate list for magazine discussions - I haven't noticed the marketing list traffic being so heavy that it was necessary to separate them out, and this means that people who sign up for marketing will miss out on a chunk of marketing-related discussions.) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fwd: Fedora Magazine Mailing list created
I have to agree with Joe, the number of mailing lists and IRC channels started getting out of hand long ago and it keeps getting worse. Defaulting to open implies to me that we not only don't have private discussions but also do not obscure them. -- Bob On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/22/2013 07:11 PM, Chris Roberts wrote: Forwarding to Marketing list, Zacharis sent the message to the other groups. We now have a mailing list for the Magazine! Zacharias Mitzelos zacharias.mitze...@gmail.com 08/22/13 7:26 PM A new Fedora Magazine mailing list have been created, in order to write all about the Fedora magazine in this list, instead of the Marketing list.All info related to the magazine and updates will be sent to this mailing list. Anyone can signup.Subscribe here: https://lists.fedoraproject.** org/mailman/listinfo/**magazineRegards,Zachariashttps://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/magazineRegards,ZachariasMitzelos-- announce mailing listannounce@lists. **fedoraproject.orghttps://admin**.fedoraproject.org/mailman/** listinfo/announcehttp://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/announce Oh, good, another mailing list for which to sign up. ;-) My mailing list reminder day just got a little brighter... (I really wonder whether we needed a separate list for magazine discussions - I haven't noticed the marketing list traffic being so heavy that it was necessary to separate them out, and this means that people who sign up for marketing will miss out on a chunk of marketing-related discussions.) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.**org marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/marketinghttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- Robert 'Bob' Jensen -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fwd: Fedora Magazine Mailing list created
On 08/23/2013 01:43 PM, zacharias.mitze...@gmail.com wrote: And also byfollowing the default is open method, that's why we decided to make a mailing list on our own, to discuss about any issues on the magazine with all the users. And we don't limit the discussions to bugs on the magazine only, but to bring all discussions regarding the magazine on this list. And we also want our visitors (and developers ofc) to communicate with us (stuff) in a way. And not having them contacting the marketing list ;) I don't understand the problem with contacting the marketing list. Can you perhaps make it clear to me how magazine-related discussions are not marketing-related and why they should be separate? I don't think that making this list is a too much. And needless to say that any major changes on the magazine will be forwarded on the marketing list so everyone can comment(eg. Fedora calendar). We don't want to separate the magazine from the marketing team. ;) I'm not talking only about major changes, though - I'm talking about any general discussion. The magazine should be a core part of the marketing effort, IMHO. Having it require two lists seems counter-intuitive to that. PS: the idea was discussed on our weekly meeting and no one disagreed with that. Unfortunately, I was unable to make the meeting due to being in new hire orientation, or I would have disagreed. This is one of the reasons I like Apache's approach of taking decisions on the mailing list and having a 72-hour window to discuss things... by default, there's always someone who can't make a meeting due to time zone issues, work commitments, etc. -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fwd: Fedora Magazine Mailing list created
Bob and Joe,In someway I agree, At the last marketing meeting it was talked about that a mailing list for the magazine would be a good idea, especially for when the ask the editors section goes into effect. Also when small things are discussed that have multiple people replying I am sure with that traffic will pick up on the mailing list, and with new Marketing projects and ideas coming along, we came to the conclusion that it would be better if they were separated. Also while talking about small things related to the magazine and the Category's section, there were probably around 10-15 emails exchanged. I dont have the email anymore because keeping up with my email is a task in it self lol. One of the emails that was received basically came out and said Great I am glad you guys have a plan can you stop emailing me ^.^ This is another reason why I think there should be a separate mailing lists for the magazine. A personal reason I like as well is organizing, this may not apply to a lot of people but when I get an email say from Marketing or Websites I can organize them better in my inbox based on that. I hope this helps clear up some confusion on why another mailing list was created. Chris Robertshttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chrisroberts Robert 'Bob' Jensen bobjen...@gmail.com 08/23/13 1:17 PM I have to agree with Joe, the number of mailing lists and IRC channels started getting out of hand long ago and it keeps getting worse. Defaulting to open implies to me that we not only don't have private discussions but also do not obscure them. -- BobOn Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/22/2013 07:11 PM, Chris Roberts wrote: Forwarding to Marketing list, Zacharis sent the message to the other groups. We now have a mailing list for the Magazine! Zacharias Mitzelos zacharias.mitze...@gmail.com 08/22/13 7:26 PM A new Fedora Magazine mailing list have been created, in order to write all about the Fedora magazine in this list, instead of the Marketing list.All info related to the magazine and updates will be sent to this mailing list. Anyone can signup.Subscribe here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/magazineRegards,Zacharias Mitzelos-- announce mailing listannounce@lists.fedoraproject.orghttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/announce Oh, good, another mailing list for which to sign up. ;-) My mailing list reminder day just got a little brighter... (I really wonder whether we needed a separate list for magazine discussions - I haven't noticed the marketing list traffic being so heavy that it was necessary to separate them out, and this means that people who sign up for marketing will miss out on a chunk of marketing-related discussions.) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-- Robert 'Bob' Jensen -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fwd: Fedora Magazine Mailing list created
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/23/2013 01:43 PM, zacharias.mitze...@gmail.com wrote: And also byfollowing the default is open method, that's why we decided to make a mailing list on our own, to discuss about any issues on the magazine with all the users. And we don't limit the discussions to bugs on the magazine only, but to bring all discussions regarding the magazine on this list. And we also want our visitors (and developers ofc) to communicate with us (stuff) in a way. And not having them contacting the marketing list ;) I don't understand the problem with contacting the marketing list. Can you perhaps make it clear to me how magazine-related discussions are not marketing-related and why they should be separate? I don't think that making this list is a too much. And needless to say that any major changes on the magazine will be forwarded on the marketing list so everyone can comment(eg. Fedora calendar). We don't want to separate the magazine from the marketing team. ;) I'm not talking only about major changes, though - I'm talking about any general discussion. The magazine should be a core part of the marketing effort, IMHO. Having it require two lists seems counter-intuitive to that. PS: the idea was discussed on our weekly meeting and no one disagreed with that. Unfortunately, I was unable to make the meeting due to being in new hire orientation, or I would have disagreed. This is one of the reasons I like Apache's approach of taking decisions on the mailing list and having a 72-hour window to discuss things... by default, there's always someone who can't make a meeting due to time zone issues, work commitments, etc. Welcome to Fedora Joe. Causing trouble right out of the gate, you are going to fit right in. :) John -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fwd: Fedora Magazine Mailing list created
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 01:53:31PM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: On 08/23/2013 01:43 PM, zacharias.mitze...@gmail.com wrote: And also byfollowing the default is open method, that's why we decided to make a mailing list on our own, to discuss about any issues on the magazine with all the users. And we don't limit the discussions to bugs on the magazine only, but to bring all discussions regarding the magazine on this list. And we also want our visitors (and developers ofc) to communicate with us (stuff) in a way. And not having them contacting the marketing list ;) I don't understand the problem with contacting the marketing list. Can you perhaps make it clear to me how magazine-related discussions are not marketing-related and why they should be separate? I don't think that making this list is a too much. And needless to say that any major changes on the magazine will be forwarded on the marketing list so everyone can comment(eg. Fedora calendar). We don't want to separate the magazine from the marketing team. ;) I'm not talking only about major changes, though - I'm talking about any general discussion. The magazine should be a core part of the marketing effort, IMHO. Having it require two lists seems counter-intuitive to that. PS: the idea was discussed on our weekly meeting and no one disagreed with that. Unfortunately, I was unable to make the meeting due to being in new hire orientation, or I would have disagreed. This is one of the reasons I like Apache's approach of taking decisions on the mailing list and having a 72-hour window to discuss things... by default, there's always someone who can't make a meeting due to time zone issues, work commitments, etc. Right, another crucial part of default to open. At least give a nominal time for people not attending to voice support, concerns, etc. before a decision. At the same time, establish a deadline so in the absence of feedback, things can move forward without stalling. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Marketing-trac: #129: Test
#129: Test --+-- Reporter: chrisroberts | Owner: chrisroberts Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Future releases Component: other |Severity: not-urgent Keywords:| Blocked By: Blocking:| --+-- testing to see if it sends to marketing mailing list. -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/129 marketing-team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Marketing team for the Fedora project. -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Marketing-trac: #129: Test
#129: Test ---+- Reporter: chrisroberts | Owner: chrisroberts Type: task | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Future releases Component: other | Severity: not-urgent Resolution: invalid | Keywords: Blocked By:| Blocking: ---+- Changes (by chrisroberts): * status: new = closed * resolution: = invalid -- Ticket URL: https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/129#comment:1 marketing-team https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing Marketing team for the Fedora project. -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Fwd: Fedora Magazine Mailing list created
On 08/23/2013 02:20 PM, inode0 wrote: Welcome to Fedora Joe. Causing trouble right out of the gate, you are going to fit right in.:) Me? Trouble? I don't think I've ever caused the slightest disruption in my life. [1] ;-) [1] May not actually be true. -- Joe Brockmeier | Open Source and Standards, Red Hat j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
