Re: Recurring post idea: Ask a Fedora Dev
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 09:13:16PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: I've been mulling over a theme for a series of articles. The inspiration came easily; I was thinking I'd *like* to write something for Fedora Magazine, but wasn't coming up with great ideas for it. I mused ironically that it would be a lot easier to come up with topics if people would just feed me project-related questions I could answer or find answers to. Then hey, why not? Sounds like a good idea to me. We could make the bucket be an email alias, perhaps, but some kind of online form as a frontend would be fine too. Whatever it is, there should be strong spam prevention. I'm happy to help find answerers, too. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Media: Red Hat confuses Linux users with latest Fedora moves
Hi While the Fedora 21 news has been very positive overall, I wanted to highlight one article which makes it clear we need to explain the broader picture of RHEL, CentOS and Fedora with the new product split http://www.infoworld.com/article/2843687/linux/red-hat-fedora-confuses-linux-users.html Rahul -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Recurring post idea: Ask a Fedora Dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2014 07:14 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 09:13:16PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote: I've been mulling over a theme for a series of articles. The inspiration came easily; I was thinking I'd *like* to write something for Fedora Magazine, but wasn't coming up with great ideas for it. I mused ironically that it would be a lot easier to come up with topics if people would just feed me project-related questions I could answer or find answers to. Then hey, why not? Sounds like a good idea to me. We could make the bucket be an email alias, perhaps, but some kind of online form as a frontend would be fine too. Whatever it is, there should be strong spam prevention. I'm happy to help find answerers, too. Yeah, that's the sticking point. I skipped right over the mailing list approach, which would give spam filtering for free but probably turn off readers. An alias would work, maybe forwarding to a defined list of folks - if that spam filtering comes with. Otherwise, we're shopping for wordpress extensions. - -- - -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanet...@fedoraproject.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUYOG2AAoJEL1wZM0+jj2ZMtgIAI5mO4IKMimMxiEkfr6TeJOx EeMA0bIJYxwASO4AW/vnurh2fe6towNLYOmaAixcjG+JZJGP/1N1AkdqSoXUGKvc RQtOMmNUpSmlSjtHkh0+TXuTRxcdiOj9e9rh9iDah8HCr+U3/obwPXC6U8VcRHtp XAYGqUuuAUe3UbD3D7xqLfIraGiF8U/8rifB/Kv/qDD3eN2HqSPfWaKfGNGT1pW3 s+nT19J9aHPjYhSDE/9hWgDgUidV/N8n2JFdAYT8Vc8DigYJRAhs6Y+w1c25UTR8 EpKRKoT2wsbKKnyCt3Mv/2VwfOzkdCIlooYLWP8ASa2D2F0F1TxapF8qMoJXOeU= =OX/M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Recurring post idea: Ask a Fedora Dev
On 11/10/2014 10:03 AM, Pete Travis wrote: Yeah, that's the sticking point. I skipped right over the mailing list approach, which would give spam filtering for free but probably turn off readers. An alias would work, maybe forwarding to a defined list of folks - if that spam filtering comes with. Otherwise, we're shopping for wordpress extensions. What about keeping a collection of questions on the wiki instead? Much easier to edit, plus people can see what's been asked, etc. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Media: Red Hat confuses Linux users with latest Fedora moves
Rahul, - Original Message - While the Fedora 21 news has been very positive overall, I wanted to highlight one article which makes it clear we need to explain the broader picture of RHEL, CentOS and Fedora with the new product split http://www.infoworld.com/article/2843687/linux/red-hat-fedora-confuses-linux-users.html As far as I can tell Paul Venezia (the guy who wrote that for his The Deep End column) is nothing but a click-bait disinformation spreader. If he misunderstands (and I refused to read that article), then we are probably doing fine. There are two other IT journalists that I can think of that are also in this category but I'm having trouble remembering their names. TYL, -- Scott Dowdle 704 Church Street Belgrade, MT 59714 (406)388-0827 [home] (406)994-3931 [work] -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Get Fedora mini-hackfest / meeting
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 08:38:54PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: I most likely can't do Monday but I will be around Tuesday. Trying to hack on some of the content right now. My understanding is we're only working on getfedora.org content for F21, and the Websites team is delaying any further work on the main fedoraproject.org site until F22 starts, so we have more time to fit the pieces together properly across the domains. The getfedora.org content is a main page, and then the three pages for Workstation, Cloud, and Server at that domain. Is that correct? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Get Fedora mini-hackfest / meeting
2014-11-10 19:21 GMT+01:00 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com: On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 08:38:54PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: I most likely can't do Monday but I will be around Tuesday. Trying to hack on some of the content right now. My understanding is we're only working on getfedora.org content for F21, and the Websites team is delaying any further work on the main fedoraproject.org site until F22 starts, so we have more time to fit the pieces together properly across the domains. The getfedora.org content is a main page, and then the three pages for Workstation, Cloud, and Server at that domain. Is that correct? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- websites mailing list websi...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites Yes, that's correct, although we won't have a main fedoraproject.org website for F21. We will have a redirect to the new main getfedora.org website. -- Robert Mayr (robyduck) -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Content for getfedora.org, meeting recap
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2014-11-10/website-content.2014-11-10-19.03.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2014-11-10/website-content.2014-11-10-19.03.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2014-11-10/website-content.2014-11-10-19.03.log.html Notable -- Once a draft of strings are finished for the getfedora.org site, we'll pass to Working Groups through their liaisons for feedback. We're aiming to have those in the next 24 hours or so. * * * = #fedora-mktg: website-content = Meeting started by stickster at 19:03:39 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2014-11-10/website-content.2014-11-10-19.03.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Status/plan ahead (stickster, 19:05:44) * Assembling content today -- where? (stickster, 19:18:23) * AGREED: we will use gobby (starting doc is getfedora.org) to continue after this meeting for collaborating on the new websites content, install it! (stickster, 19:23:38) * Working on text -- keep conversation here (stickster, 19:24:10) * LINK: https://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/websites.next/download-page-sample.png (jreznik_, 19:25:47) * LINK: https://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/websites.next/main.png (jreznik_, 19:25:55) * LINK: https://jreznik.fedorapeople.org/websites.next/workstation.png (jreznik_, 19:26:04) * stickster will do stuff for Server today, so we have something to present (stickster, 19:43:40) * ACTION: jzb Finish strings for getfedora.org (cloud related) gf.o/cloud (stickster, 20:35:27) * ACTION: stickster Finish strings for getfedora.org (workstation, server related), gf.o/workstation, gf.o/server (stickster, 20:35:44) * ACTION: ryanlerch Work with robyduck, relrod and mizmo on additional site implementation bits (stickster, 20:36:18) * ACTION: relrod to finish keys page, but mostly just needs Obsolete keys added at this point, I think (relrod, 20:36:57) * For more information, and to help -- visit #fedora-websites and say hello! (stickster, 20:47:20) Meeting ended at 20:47:25 UTC. Action Items * jzb Finish strings for getfedora.org (cloud related) gf.o/cloud * stickster Finish strings for getfedora.org (workstation, server related), gf.o/workstation, gf.o/server * ryanlerch Work with robyduck, relrod and mizmo on additional site implementation bits * relrod to finish keys page, but mostly just needs Obsolete keys added at this point, I think Action Items, by person --- * jzb * jzb Finish strings for getfedora.org (cloud related) gf.o/cloud * relrod * ryanlerch Work with robyduck, relrod and mizmo on additional site implementation bits * relrod to finish keys page, but mostly just needs Obsolete keys added at this point, I think * robyduck * ryanlerch Work with robyduck, relrod and mizmo on additional site implementation bits * ryanlerch * ryanlerch Work with robyduck, relrod and mizmo on additional site implementation bits * stickster * stickster Finish strings for getfedora.org (workstation, server related), gf.o/workstation, gf.o/server * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * stickster (127) * robyduck (125) * jzb (30) * jreznik_ (20) * ryanlerch (15) * zodbot (7) * mattnix (6) * mattdm (5) * relrod (5) * jreznik (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Media: Red Hat confuses Linux users with latest Fedora moves
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:52:29AM -0700, Scott Dowdle wrote: Rahul, - Original Message - While the Fedora 21 news has been very positive overall, I wanted to highlight one article which makes it clear we need to explain the broader picture of RHEL, CentOS and Fedora with the new product split http://www.infoworld.com/article/2843687/linux/red-hat-fedora-confuses-linux-users.html As far as I can tell Paul Venezia (the guy who wrote that for his The Deep End column) is nothing but a click-bait disinformation spreader. If he misunderstands (and I refused to read that article), then we are probably doing fine. There are two other IT journalists that I can think of that are also in this category but I'm having trouble remembering their names. Probably best not to call them out; our purpose here isn't to diss writers. But your opinion's noted. We should realize no amount of work is going to keep someone from writing what they want to get page views. :-) -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Media: Red Hat confuses Linux users with latest Fedora moves
- Original Message - From: Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:21:50 AM Subject: Media: Red Hat confuses Linux users with latest Fedora moves Hi While the Fedora 21 news has been very positive overall, I wanted to highlight one article which makes it clear we need to explain the broader picture of RHEL, CentOS and Fedora with the new product split http://www.infoworld.com/article/2843687/linux/red-hat-fedora-confuses-linux-users.html Here's some material that might be useful: http://community.redhat.com/centos-faq/#_positioning Jason Rahul -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Recurring post idea: Ask a Fedora Dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2014 10:46 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: On 11/10/2014 10:03 AM, Pete Travis wrote: Yeah, that's the sticking point. I skipped right over the mailing list approach, which would give spam filtering for free but probably turn off readers. An alias would work, maybe forwarding to a defined list of folks - if that spam filtering comes with. Otherwise, we're shopping for wordpress extensions. What about keeping a collection of questions on the wiki instead? Much easier to edit, plus people can see what's been asked, etc. Best, jzb It would be expedient for those of us working the posts, but I don't think introducing casual readers to wiki churn and requiring them to open FAS accounts and sign the CLA to just ask a question is a good idea. - -- - -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanet...@fedoraproject.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJUYXywAAoJEL1wZM0+jj2ZtbMH/2mHYN23P1AZLyKX342bUeqy k/70uO8vFQf85A8qg6neNvv67l7Ys3Fqp2C6WBGIuU3e9d9SGw3oUJyb1AS4YTiZ /43+80OrWABO8uqWsnEm6WdpKLIfyqg2MV7PfPA1lZCS8lN/i4crENpT5ahInzq/ u2a55RaCvGr1RGgCvEA1dtcSdsm4W9xNM11PU3PRgw98EjbEM+R6dioYeM1bRbM3 wTbTI/VptJUPUuXz3WvoAYZxn0zrm4FpiHL2ptTwE5KcojxN92oBE+tc00npt6DC 2NqLpIDg7kAyth1FXBMauCtSRA6Q7ZcWGn7cwgZmvrm0q1Tv01tosnECtx9L4vc= =yOvb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Content for getfedora.org, meeting recap
On 11/10/2014 02:50 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2014-11-10/website-content.2014-11-10-19.03.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2014-11-10/website-content.2014-11-10-19.03.txt
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2014-11-10/website-content.2014-11-10-19.03.log.html
One thing I have noticed - we don't have a place for Fedora Docker
images. Since they were taken on by the base WG, they have sort of been
orphaned under products. Do they belong under Server? Cloud? Spins?
Notable -- Once a draft of strings are finished for the getfedora.org
site, we'll pass to Working Groups through their liaisons for
feedback. We're aiming to have those in the next 24 hours or so.
Hmmm. So I produced a patch against the getfedora branch. (Attached)
Here's the strings for the cloud pages:
main page:
Fedora Cloud:
Fedora Cloud provides a minimal Fedora cloud image for use in public and
private cloud environments. It includes just the bare essentials so you
get enough to run your cloud application -- and nothing more.
Get Cloud page:
Top:
Fedora Cloud has the tools
for public and private clouds,
traditional workloads, or Docker containers.
Middle:
The Fedora Cloud Working Group offers two variants for different use
cases. The Base image is suitable for anyone who wants to run Fedora in
the AWS public cloud, or on a private cloud like OpenStack.
The Fedora Atomic Host is generated using rpm-ostree to allow true
atomic updates, and is optimized to run Docker containers.
Both are available in formats suitable for public or private clouds.
[[We need a quote or something for the middle - who could we get
something from? Think testimonial.]]
Bottom:
Fedora Cloud images provide leading edge software for development and
deployment in public cloud environments.
--
Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst
j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/
Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/
diff --git a/getfedora.org/data/content/cloud/index.html b/getfedora.org/data/content/cloud/index.html
index 401f54b..7423fea 100644
--- a/getfedora.org/data/content/cloud/index.html
+++ b/getfedora.org/data/content/cloud/index.html
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
div class=container cloud
div class=row
div class=col-md-6 col-md-offset-1 text-left
- h1Clouders, this is br /the Linux cloudy cloud cloud you've br /been waiting for./h1
+ h1Fedora Cloud has the tools br / for public and private clouds, br / traditional workloads, or Docker containers./h1
/div
/div
div class=row
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@
div class=container text-center
div class=row
div class=col-md-6 col-md-offset-3
-h3More detailed explanation of what Fedora Workstation is and how it is simply awesome and totally desirable to use./h3
+pThe Fedora Cloud Working Group offers two variants for different use cases. The Base image is suitable for anyone who wants to run Fedora in the AWS public cloud, or on a private cloud like OpenStack.br / The Fedora Atomic Host is generated using stronga href=http://www.projectatomic.io/docs/os-updates/;rpm-ostree/a/strong to allow true atomic updates, and is optimized to run Docker containers.br / Both are available in formats suitable for public or private clouds./p
/div
/div
/div
@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@
div class=container text-center
div class=row
div class=col-md-6 col-md-offset-3
-h3Testimonial from actual developers who use Fedora to do the kinds of things the developers we'd like to attract actually do./h3
+h3emFedora Atomic Host is the most up-to-date way to deploy Docker containers./embr / ndash; Joe Brockmeier, Cloud Dude/h3
/div
/div
/div
@@ -52,7 +52,7 @@
div class=container text-center
div class=row
div class=col-md-6 col-md-offset-3
-h3Highlight of a feature you get with Fedora that makes it compelling to use (e.g. software collections) for devs./h3
+h3Fedora Cloud images provide leading edge software for development and deployment in public cloud environments./h3
/div
/div
/div
diff --git a/getfedora.org/data/content/index.html b/getfedora.org/data/content/index.html
index d15f0b6..a043b35 100644
--- a/getfedora.org/data/content/index.html
+++ b/getfedora.org/data/content/index.html
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
div class=col-sm-4 col-xs-12 highlight
div class=h-captionimg src=${path}/static/images/color-cloud.png class=img-responsive center-block //div
div class=h-body text-justify
-pLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit. Voluptatem, vitae, perferendis, perspiciatis nobis voluptate quod illum soluta minima ipsam ratione quia numquam eveniet eum reprehenderit dolorem dicta nesciunt corporis?/p
+
