Re: Redoing the categories [was Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?]
Hmmm, not sure about these -- they are categories of audience, rather than of content. Not sure we want to make the divide of intended audience front and centre like that. Maybe we can have: * Workstation * Cloud * Server * Community * This Week I think those will cover most of the possible content we will generate. also, are we intending for posts to be in just one of these categories? or 1 to many of these categories? --ryanlerch +1 with Matthew(Fedora User Stuff | Fedora Contributor Stuff | Fedora this Week). I also like Ryan's idea, but I think it will turn out to be too complicated, if someone eg. would like to get development updates for the whole project, and not only for a specific product Zacharias -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Redoing the categories [was Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?]
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: We haven't really had fedora videos for a long time, though. Except for the screencast Paul made a few weeks ago and my icebucket challenge, the only videos we have had for years are Flock talks. How about we add it back when the Videos team starts regularly producing content again? Things were much simpler when we had Fedora TV miro feed and adding things there. Kushal -- CPython Core Developer http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Redoing the categories [was Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?]
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 08:39:05AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:38:38AM +0300, Zacharias Mitzelos wrote: * Workstation * Cloud * Server * Community * This Week I think those will cover most of the possible content we will generate. also, are we intending for posts to be in just one of these categories? or 1 to many of these categories? I was thinking just one. With your scheme, I think there would be a lot of fits in several buckets. Not necessarily bad I was also thinking that we'd make For Users the front page; with your idea, maybe it'd fit more to have the front just show one big featured article every few days (full article), plus prominent (graphical) links to the other categories (maybe with the latest articles in those down a sidebar?) I dunno, you're the designer. :) Would it make sense to have categories in WP to delineate between Workstation, Cloud, and Server content but still keep it all in one place under Users? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Redoing the categories [was Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?]
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 04:38:25PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: I like this idea. Let me see if I understand it: If you hit the site blindly (http://fm.o) you'd see the general user feed (e.g. For Users). There'd be some way to choose For Contributors and you could see that stuff too. Is that accurate? Yep. See right now where we have Fedora News | Fedora This Week | Events | Fedora Badges | Videos We would instead have Fedora User Stuff | Fedora Contributor Stuff | Fedora This Week I think For Users and For Contributors are better than anything I could think of, and also just trying making Fedora This Week its own top-level and not putting it on the others, even though For Users is probably the best front page. Ryan, Chris, anyone -- what do you think? -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Redoing the categories [was Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?]
Hey Matthew, +1 to this, I think For Users and For Contributors will make navigation a lot simpler. I know Fedora Videos likes having the video section up there. Are we able to keep that section as well? - Chris Roberts - Original Message - From: Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org To: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 4:59:01 PM Subject: Redoing the categories [was Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?] On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 04:38:25PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: I like this idea. Let me see if I understand it: If you hit the site blindly (http://fm.o) you'd see the general user feed (e.g. For Users). There'd be some way to choose For Contributors and you could see that stuff too. Is that accurate? Yep. See right now where we have Fedora News | Fedora This Week | Events | Fedora Badges | Videos We would instead have Fedora User Stuff | Fedora Contributor Stuff | Fedora This Week I think For Users and For Contributors are better than anything I could think of, and also just trying making Fedora This Week its own top-level and not putting it on the others, even though For Users is probably the best front page. Ryan, Chris, anyone -- what do you think? -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: Redoing the categories [was Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?]
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 05:01:33PM -0400, Chris Roberts wrote: +1 to this, I think For Users and For Contributors will make navigation a lot simpler. I know Fedora Videos likes having the video section up there. Are we able to keep that section as well? We haven't really had fedora videos for a long time, though. Except for the screencast Paul made a few weeks ago and my icebucket challenge, the only videos we have had for years are Flock talks. How about we add it back when the Videos team starts regularly producing content again? -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:03:29PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: I've no qualms about having this kind of opinion piece. I did want to say that I think Fedora Magazine on the whole should retain a user-centric slant, and not get too focused on internal community issues. Hmmm. I agree, but... we also need a central focus for running things that are about internal community issues. I am working on some stuff about project objectives (as part of the new fedora council), and I can do it as mailing list posts but I'd really like it to be more... blog posty, with discussion to follow. I can set up my own personal FPL blog, but... I'm historically terrible at that whereas it turns out to be easier for me to be _part_ of something, if that makes sense. And, it would kind of be nice to have a central place for things which _are_ more internal. The Fedora Council seems like a good example — a general overview makes a good user-focused article, but details beyond that are probably more interesting to contributors, and the elections articles (like the interviews we were talking about) are _meant_ for contributors. I know Ryan was talking about wanting to reduce the number of categories. What if we made it just two, for user-focused and contributor-focused articles? Maybe keeping 5tFTW as a separate thing which covers both — or, possibly splitting that into two separate posts, one for each category (and probably removing the 5 from both, because speaking from experience 10 total would be crazy). -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 03:17:17PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: The magazine looks sad when it's two 5tFTW posts in a row. :) We have this now too: http://fedoramagazine.org/netflix-streaming-comes-to-chrome-for-fedora/ Maybe Rikki or someone with access to Fedora's Facebook and Twitter could echo this out? Seems to be ramping up in general Linux news today. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
http://fedoramagazine.org/netflix-streaming-comes-to-chrome-for-fedora/ is now on r/fedora too. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 03:17:17PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: The magazine looks sad when it's two 5tFTW posts in a row. :) We have this now too: http://fedoramagazine.org/netflix-streaming-comes-to-chrome-for-fedora/ Maybe Rikki or someone with access to Fedora's Facebook and Twitter could echo this out? Seems to be ramping up in general Linux news today. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 03:06:07PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:03:29PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: I've no qualms about having this kind of opinion piece. I did want to say that I think Fedora Magazine on the whole should retain a user-centric slant, and not get too focused on internal community issues. Hmmm. I agree, but... we also need a central focus for running things that are about internal community issues. I am working on some stuff about project objectives (as part of the new fedora council), and I can do it as mailing list posts but I'd really like it to be more... blog posty, with discussion to follow. I can set up my own personal FPL blog, but... I'm historically terrible at that whereas it turns out to be easier for me to be _part_ of something, if that makes sense. And, it would kind of be nice to have a central place for things which _are_ more internal. The Fedora Council seems like a good example — a general overview makes a good user-focused article, but details beyond that are probably more interesting to contributors, and the elections articles (like the interviews we were talking about) are _meant_ for contributors. I know Ryan was talking about wanting to reduce the number of categories. What if we made it just two, for user-focused and contributor-focused articles? Maybe keeping 5tFTW as a separate thing which covers both — or, possibly splitting that into two separate posts, one for each category (and probably removing the 5 from both, because speaking from experience 10 total would be crazy). I like this idea. Let me see if I understand it: If you hit the site blindly (http://fm.o) you'd see the general user feed (e.g. For Users). There'd be some way to choose For Contributors and you could see that stuff too. Is that accurate? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On 08.10.2014 16:18, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:10:17AM +0200, Joerg Simon wrote: ... maybe the Ambassador Event Reports can add some noise to the magazine. Along with a bit post-editing by the magazine folks, this may contribute to more content? It does not need to be a huge process - just a place where Ambassadors can send an heads up about the Reports that they produce anyway. Yes, this sounds _perfect_. In fact, I'd love to make this the default for event reports. ok, then i will catalyse it with the Ambassador Group ;) have fun Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsi...@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On 07.10.2014 21:17, Matthew Miller wrote: The magazine looks sad when it's two 5tFTW posts in a row. :) i am not following up here very much at the moment - and perhaps this idea was already considered for the magazine, but maybe the Ambassador Event Reports can add some noise to the magazine. Along with a bit post-editing by the magazine folks, this may contribute to more content? It does not need to be a huge process - just a place where Ambassadors can send an heads up about the Reports that they produce anyway. cu Joerg -- Joerg (kital) Simon jsi...@fedoraproject.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JoergSimon http://kitall.blogspot.com Key Fingerprint: 3691 0989 2DCA 58A2 8D1F 2CAC C823 558E 5B5B 5688 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On 10/07/2014 04:00 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: On 10/07/2014 02:23 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: Had an odd idea about maybe write an article about Lennart's G+ post... I'm +1 to this, but also want to call out that this sounds like it'd be an opinion topic and we haven't gone down that path before. Any thoughts on that? Do we have any policy, or should we have, on putting up something that's sort of outside the standard howto/news in Fedora model? (Not trying to apply stop energy here, just wanting to call out what may be setting precedent and see if there's any extra concerns around it.) I definitely want to try to take as objective a view as possible and ask a lot more questions to get folks thinking rather than anything else. ~m -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On 10/08/2014 06:54 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: I definitely want to try to take as objective a view as possible and ask a lot more questions to get folks thinking rather than anything else. Total faith in your ability to write this and that it'll reflect well on Fedora Magazine/Fedora in general. My main question was more around opening the door to a Fedora publication to opinion pieces, and what might that lead to down the road. * Do we accept any opinion pieces? * Is there a process to saying uh, sorry - we don't think this meets our standards? Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 07:29:02AM -0500, Joe Brockmeier wrote: My main question was more around opening the door to a Fedora publication to opinion pieces, and what might that lead to down the road. * Do we accept any opinion pieces? * Is there a process to saying uh, sorry - we don't think this meets our standards? I think this needs to be more of an editorial space than a letters-to-the-editor section. I think anything we run needs to: 1) Aim to advance our overall mission, 2) be in line with and promote the Fedora foundations, and 3) obviously, but let's say it: follow the Fedora code of conduct. I don't know if we need more process than just saying that and trusting our submitters and editors; I hope we don't. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
Had an odd idea about maybe write an article about Lennart's G+ post... On 10/07/2014 03:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: The magazine looks sad when it's two 5tFTW posts in a row. :) -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
Re: anyone got any articles in the wings?
On 10/07/2014 02:23 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: Had an odd idea about maybe write an article about Lennart's G+ post... I'm +1 to this, but also want to call out that this sounds like it'd be an opinion topic and we haven't gone down that path before. Any thoughts on that? Do we have any policy, or should we have, on putting up something that's sort of outside the standard howto/news in Fedora model? (Not trying to apply stop energy here, just wanting to call out what may be setting precedent and see if there's any extra concerns around it.) Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier | Principal Cloud Storage Analyst j...@redhat.com | http://community.redhat.com/ Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
RE: anyone got any articles in the wings?
I am going to get a what's going on with badges. It has been a while since I posted since keeping everything up in the backend. I need to balance the two out :) I'll have it published by the end of the day today. Chris div Original message /divdivFrom: Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org /divdivDate:10/07/2014 3:17 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org /divdivSubject: anyone got any articles in the wings? /divdiv /divThe magazine looks sad when it's two 5tFTW posts in a row. :) -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-- marketing mailing list marketing@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
