Re: evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF

2005-05-20 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,
Luis Villa a écrit :
On 5/19/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some major flaws in current gnome marketing:
There are many :)
The major one at this stage is that we are spending lots of time talking 
about what we want to say, how we want to say it, and who we want to say 
it to, but we are spending a lot less time actually saying it :) Luis 
pimping LiveCDs is great, toady distributing over 1000 Ubuntu CDs (I 
only found out about this yesterday) in his college, to friends, family 
and colleagues, is amazing as well. We need more of this.

The Gnome website is - what? It exists. But from a marketing point of
view it is not much. The navigation is sub optimal. And the layout is
sub optimal. Some good information is now on gnomefiles but unless you
know what you are looking for it is far from perfect.
It should be totally redone. Any suggestions on how are welcome.
We can at least replace the front page more or less immediately.
Reorganising and rewriting content inside the front page will take quite 
a while - perhaps we can plan to have that done at a certain date, and 
coincide a rebranding/relaunching of the GNOME brand at the same time?

reality is, though, that it is a large task and until we agree on some
bigger-picture stuff (like markets, themes, goals, etc.) it is hard to
rework the whole thing consistently.
Yeah. We need a leader to say OK, that's our market, let's not talk 
about it any more.

Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: Actions (was: Surveys at conferences..)

2005-05-20 Thread Claus Schwarm
On Thu, 19 May 2005 18:47:24 -0400
Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Eek, I suck- I didn't realize you were blocking on me for this :/ I'm
 not 100% thrilled with the proposed format (I think it is much harder
 to find certain pertinent information in the list than in the table)
 but you're going ahead and doing it, so go ahead and Do It- I'm not
 doing it myself, clearly, right now :/
  

Done.

Note I'm also not completely happy with the format but the table was
hard to read. The information was also spread across too many pages -
it's not that funny to click down three layers to find 4 rows of notes.

The best solution would be a database-driven website designed for
events.

 
 I'd note that conferences are a totally skewed audience with very
 specific interests/needs/etc. I'm not particularly interested in
 creating pseudo-data unless we are very clear and up front about
 understanding the limitations.
 

I'm not sure if I understand your concerns about pseudo-data: All
marketing activities worldwide are based on data that could be called
'pseudo'. But that should probably discussed seperately.

However, since the Annual Events information is basically working, a
little bit of promotion about its existance may be useful now. ;)

Cheers, 
Claus
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Re: evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF

2005-05-20 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 09:36:25AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
 Yeah. We need a leader to say OK, that's our market, let's not talk 
 about it any more.

I agree.   Less talk, more action. ;)

sri
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Re: Surveys at conferences..

2005-05-20 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 06:49:04PM -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
 On 5/8/05, Sri Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It might give us a better random
  sample I think than a web one.
 
 Heh. Despite my last comment in the thread, this, at least, is true-
 it would suck a lot less than other groups. :) It wouldn't be hard to
 throw this on the web, and have the demo boxes have the survey
 bookmarked so that people could fill it out there. (This would assume
 it would be short, since otherwise you're breaking up the flow of the
 demos and such.)
 
 Luis
 
 P.S. Sri, did we ever find out about the booth situation at OSCON?

Well, I'm not sure if we still have time for the booth.  I can ask.

I can take care of the paper work for OSCON booth, but someone needs
to volunteer to run it, since I'm not sure I will be able to.  If I can
then I will...

So let me get back to you guys on Monday about OSCON booth..

One thing I'd like to see that seems to be missing is a tutorial
for GNOME/GTK+ Python bindings.  This conference is huge for Ruby
and Python and having someone talk about how to use python to work
with the desktop would be killer.

sri
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Re: Surveys at conferences..

2005-05-20 Thread Luis Villa
On 5/20/05, Sriram Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 06:49:04PM -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
  On 5/8/05, Sri Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It might give us a better random
   sample I think than a web one.
 
  Heh. Despite my last comment in the thread, this, at least, is true-
  it would suck a lot less than other groups. :) It wouldn't be hard to
  throw this on the web, and have the demo boxes have the survey
  bookmarked so that people could fill it out there. (This would assume
  it would be short, since otherwise you're breaking up the flow of the
  demos and such.)
 
  Luis
 
  P.S. Sri, did we ever find out about the booth situation at OSCON?
 
 Well, I'm not sure if we still have time for the booth.  I can ask.
 
 I can take care of the paper work for OSCON booth, but someone needs
 to volunteer to run it, since I'm not sure I will be able to.  If I can
 then I will...

Please go ahead and ask- worst case we have to back out and they have
an empty booth.
 
 So let me get back to you guys on Monday about OSCON booth..
 
 One thing I'd like to see that seems to be missing is a tutorial
 for GNOME/GTK+ Python bindings.  This conference is huge for Ruby
 and Python and having someone talk about how to use python to work
 with the desktop would be killer.

Yeah, but it is too late for that, right?

Luis
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romanian magazine..

2005-05-20 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
I was reading on newsforge about a romanian linux magazine that
seems pretty central place.

http://www.myl.ro/

Please note, that it seems very KDE based except for the foresight
distro rewview.  You will also see that it's supported by Linux-KDE
Romania (http://www.ro.kde.org/)

I think we need to be getting into the romanian (eastern europe in
general) market as it is a growth market.

I wonder if it's possible to get Romanian GNOME users to do some 
translations of our articles in.

sri

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