Re: evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF
Hi, Luis Villa a écrit : On 5/19/05, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some major flaws in current gnome marketing: There are many :) The major one at this stage is that we are spending lots of time talking about what we want to say, how we want to say it, and who we want to say it to, but we are spending a lot less time actually saying it :) Luis pimping LiveCDs is great, toady distributing over 1000 Ubuntu CDs (I only found out about this yesterday) in his college, to friends, family and colleagues, is amazing as well. We need more of this. The Gnome website is - what? It exists. But from a marketing point of view it is not much. The navigation is sub optimal. And the layout is sub optimal. Some good information is now on gnomefiles but unless you know what you are looking for it is far from perfect. It should be totally redone. Any suggestions on how are welcome. We can at least replace the front page more or less immediately. Reorganising and rewriting content inside the front page will take quite a while - perhaps we can plan to have that done at a certain date, and coincide a rebranding/relaunching of the GNOME brand at the same time? reality is, though, that it is a large task and until we agree on some bigger-picture stuff (like markets, themes, goals, etc.) it is hard to rework the whole thing consistently. Yeah. We need a leader to say OK, that's our market, let's not talk about it any more. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Actions (was: Surveys at conferences..)
On Thu, 19 May 2005 18:47:24 -0400 Luis Villa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eek, I suck- I didn't realize you were blocking on me for this :/ I'm not 100% thrilled with the proposed format (I think it is much harder to find certain pertinent information in the list than in the table) but you're going ahead and doing it, so go ahead and Do It- I'm not doing it myself, clearly, right now :/ Done. Note I'm also not completely happy with the format but the table was hard to read. The information was also spread across too many pages - it's not that funny to click down three layers to find 4 rows of notes. The best solution would be a database-driven website designed for events. I'd note that conferences are a totally skewed audience with very specific interests/needs/etc. I'm not particularly interested in creating pseudo-data unless we are very clear and up front about understanding the limitations. I'm not sure if I understand your concerns about pseudo-data: All marketing activities worldwide are based on data that could be called 'pseudo'. But that should probably discussed seperately. However, since the Annual Events information is basically working, a little bit of promotion about its existance may be useful now. ;) Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: evangelist users- the other key note from LCA marketing BOF
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 09:36:25AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Yeah. We need a leader to say OK, that's our market, let's not talk about it any more. I agree. Less talk, more action. ;) sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Surveys at conferences..
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 06:49:04PM -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 5/8/05, Sri Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might give us a better random sample I think than a web one. Heh. Despite my last comment in the thread, this, at least, is true- it would suck a lot less than other groups. :) It wouldn't be hard to throw this on the web, and have the demo boxes have the survey bookmarked so that people could fill it out there. (This would assume it would be short, since otherwise you're breaking up the flow of the demos and such.) Luis P.S. Sri, did we ever find out about the booth situation at OSCON? Well, I'm not sure if we still have time for the booth. I can ask. I can take care of the paper work for OSCON booth, but someone needs to volunteer to run it, since I'm not sure I will be able to. If I can then I will... So let me get back to you guys on Monday about OSCON booth.. One thing I'd like to see that seems to be missing is a tutorial for GNOME/GTK+ Python bindings. This conference is huge for Ruby and Python and having someone talk about how to use python to work with the desktop would be killer. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Surveys at conferences..
On 5/20/05, Sriram Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 06:49:04PM -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On 5/8/05, Sri Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might give us a better random sample I think than a web one. Heh. Despite my last comment in the thread, this, at least, is true- it would suck a lot less than other groups. :) It wouldn't be hard to throw this on the web, and have the demo boxes have the survey bookmarked so that people could fill it out there. (This would assume it would be short, since otherwise you're breaking up the flow of the demos and such.) Luis P.S. Sri, did we ever find out about the booth situation at OSCON? Well, I'm not sure if we still have time for the booth. I can ask. I can take care of the paper work for OSCON booth, but someone needs to volunteer to run it, since I'm not sure I will be able to. If I can then I will... Please go ahead and ask- worst case we have to back out and they have an empty booth. So let me get back to you guys on Monday about OSCON booth.. One thing I'd like to see that seems to be missing is a tutorial for GNOME/GTK+ Python bindings. This conference is huge for Ruby and Python and having someone talk about how to use python to work with the desktop would be killer. Yeah, but it is too late for that, right? Luis -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
romanian magazine..
I was reading on newsforge about a romanian linux magazine that seems pretty central place. http://www.myl.ro/ Please note, that it seems very KDE based except for the foresight distro rewview. You will also see that it's supported by Linux-KDE Romania (http://www.ro.kde.org/) I think we need to be getting into the romanian (eastern europe in general) market as it is a growth market. I wonder if it's possible to get Romanian GNOME users to do some translations of our articles in. sri -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list