Re: Website work

2005-06-09 Thread James Henstridge
Jeff Waugh wrote:

quote who=James Henstridge

  

There have been a few discussions about improvements to the website on
this list, however not many of them have resulted in the changes getting
rolled out.

One of the proposals that was discussed was making the various developer
websites feel more coherent with some shared navigation.  This got as
far as a mockup I put together:
http://www.gnome.org/~jamesh/web-test/developer.html



I'm going to set up a shared module for the websites, so we can have common
css, images, etc. Once that is ready, shifting things over to the new style,
particularly between all the developer sites, will be much simpler.
  

Okay.  I was thinking it would be a good idea to have all the various
Gnome websites pulling these common files from a single set of URLs
rather than having a copy of them on each website.  It would make
changes like the recent logo change a lot easier.

I also brought up redoing the wiki's skin to address some of the
discoverability problems with the current skin.  This work is here:
http://www.gnome.org/~jamesh/moin/

This stalled because I did the skin for moin 1.3, so live.gnome.org
would need to be migrated to that version before it could be used (the
migration doesn't look like it should be too difficult, but it isn't
something I can test due to the file permissions).



I've done some test runs locally; I'll do it on the live site soon.
  

Sounds great!

James.
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Re: support for local gnome groups.

2005-06-09 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey,

  BTW, the banners produced for LWE in Boston last January and used on the
  GUADEC stage in Stuttgart are now on loan to gnome.fr for their next
  event.
 
 gnome.de has one too. And given Murray's ambitious plans, we may soon 
 have a trunk to lug around too.

I think it would be a great idea to have a set of marketing materials in
each country where there is an active local group that are doing these
types of shows. I'd like to see any of our surplus budget from GUADEC
invested in a set of generic banners at least for a start, and then see
where we go from there.


Glynn

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Re: support for local gnome groups.

2005-06-09 Thread Fernando San Martín Woerner
El jue, 09-06-2005 a las 21:24 +1200, Glynn Foster escribió:
 Hey,
 
   BTW, the banners produced for LWE in Boston last January and used on the
   GUADEC stage in Stuttgart are now on loan to gnome.fr for their next
   event.
  
  gnome.de has one too. And given Murray's ambitious plans, we may soon 
  have a trunk to lug around too.
 
 I think it would be a great idea to have a set of marketing materials in
 each country where there is an active local group that are doing these
 types of shows. I'd like to see any of our surplus budget from GUADEC
 invested in a set of generic banners at least for a start, and then see
 where we go from there.

Great at least we're almost one event by month in difference places
arround the country, could be very good if we can get some propaganda in
every place that we go.

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Software Freedom Day

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Neary


Hi,

We should probably do something for Software Freedom Day (even if it's 
only letting more people know about it) http://softwarefreedomday.org/ - 
it's the second year it's been help, and I think it's a really good idea 
which deserves traction and attention.


I don't know what we can do, in particular, apart from encouraging local 
groups to form groups for the event, or join existing groups, putting a 
splash for the event on our front page at some stage (before the 2.12 
release, I think), and organising release parties for 2.12 to coincide 
with it. But even if that's all we do, I'm for it.


Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Software Freedom Day

2005-06-09 Thread Leslie Proctor
Simos wrote: 

 A task would be to inform the end-users that they
 are using software 
 based on GNOME technologies.
 * Perhaps rework the About dialog menu to show
 prominently that the app 
 is based on GNOME technologies.
 * Do application branding around the idea Based on
 GNOME technologies, 
 GNOME Inside (hmm), or a logo with a foot, the
 word Inside, in a cirlce.

Anything but the circle and the word inside - it's a
trademark violation and the sharky lawyers at Intel
will be all over it.  Someone else had this idea a few
years ago and bought themselves a bunch of legal
trouble.

 
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Re: Software Freedom Day

2005-06-09 Thread Simos Xenitellis

Leslie Proctor wrote:

Simos wrote: 

 


A task would be to inform the end-users that they
are using software 
based on GNOME technologies.

* Perhaps rework the About dialog menu to show
prominently that the app 
is based on GNOME technologies.

* Do application branding around the idea Based on
GNOME technologies, 
GNOME Inside (hmm), or a logo with a foot, the

word Inside, in a cirlce.
   



Anything but the circle and the word inside - it's a
trademark violation and the sharky lawyers at Intel
will be all over it.  Someone else had this idea a few
years ago and bought themselves a bunch of legal
trouble.
 


Ok, point taken.

I suppose the resident designer of the marketing list would come up with 
a proper idea.
In any case, these actions would go on if there is positive response to 
the thread.


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Re: Software Freedom Day

2005-06-09 Thread Dave Neary


Hi,

Simos Xenitellis a crit :
In addition, the OpenCD will be available, which has cross-platform 
applications based on GNOME technologies.


A task would be to inform the end-users that they are using software 
based on GNOME technologies.
* Perhaps rework the About dialog menu to show prominently that the app 
is based on GNOME technologies.
* Do application branding around the idea Based on GNOME technologies, 
GNOME Inside (hmm), or a logo with a foot, the word Inside, in a cirlce.


In brainstorming during board and marketing sessions at GUADEC, we came 
up with the idea of GNOME certification - things would earn a GNOME 
certification level by playing nice with GNOME.


Level 1 could be using common desktop standards like the notification 
area, drag  drop, thumbnailing standards. Level 2 could be use of the 
GTK+ toolkit. HIG compliance would be another level, using GConf and 
other GNOME platform technologies another, and so on.


Once you're at level 4 or 5 (using GNOME technologies, respecting GNOME 
visual guidelines and the HIG), you *are* a GNOME app (de facto), 
regardless of whether you're part of the platform or not.


The idea will take off, or not, withing the next month. Federico is 
going to draw up a rough list of what we consider the various levels of 
certification (while trying to focus on user visible function rather 
than back-end technology),and from there we'll start working towards 
launching the idea.


Software on the OpenCD should all have certifications of 2 or 3, I 
think, which means that we're already pretty GNOMEy. It's definitely a 
strategy that we should exploit, that GNOME applications are often 
available on Windows.


Cheers,
Dave.

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