Re: Using "GNOME" and the foot logo on t-shirts/etc.

2005-06-13 Thread Murray Cumming
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 18:31 -0400, Fernando San Martín Woerner wrote:
> El mar, 14-06-2005 a las 00:24 +0200, Erik Snoeijs escribió:
> ...
> > 
> > I don't know how far you are with business cards, but i could give you
> > our design. However at the moment i can only offer a low quality one,
> > and i can only get the high quality one in about a week.
> > I was planning to put it on the marketing live.gnome page at some point,
> > but hadn't found time to do that yet.
> 
> I'm talking about cards for non-commercial issues but to identify our
> self as Members of Foundation, at least here in Chile we're 3 members.
> On the other hand we i'm asking if we can use the Foot Logo in GNOME
> Chile cards?
> 
> > 
> > here is my blog about our cards:
> > http://www.stratos-online.nl/blog/02May2005
> > and here is a pdf demo of the card:
> > http://www.stratos-online.nl/card_demo.pdf
> > 
> > we had the benefit that the company i work for also does business
> > cards. 
> > so we could get full color, double sided cards at no cost.

This is one of my foundation board action items. We didn't get much
feedback on the current design:
http://www.murrayc.com/blog/tech/2005-04-20-13-55.html
so I was about to just stamp it as official.

Your looks a bit nicer, and an .svg would be good. But you need to use
the new simpler trademarked logo, and we'd like only the "GNOME member
logo" to be used on these cards - The logo with "GNOME Foundation
Member" underneath/next-to it.

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Re: Publishing press releases in other languages than english

2005-06-13 Thread Dave Neary


Hi Quim,

Quim Gil a écrit :

One question. This is the price to have a press release distributed in
the PR networks. But PR networks are not just the only way to get to
journalists, isn't it?


That's right. I think that's what Leslie was saying when she mentioned 
collecting press contacts and just pushing a translated release to them. 
We "just" need a centralised set of press contacts :)


linuxfr.org is the French equivalent of slashdot, by the way (well, kind 
of...)


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Re: Publishing press releases in other languages than english

2005-06-13 Thread Quim Gil

>> Literally - thousands of dollars for each release.
> 
> 
> I suspect it's cheaper in France. 

One question. This is the price to have a press release distributed in
the PR networks. But PR networks are not just the only way to get to
journalists, isn't it?

I mean, having press releases in Spanish may help having a better
coverage in, for instance, http://barrapunto.com (the Spanish
slashdot-alike reference) and once you are there the (good) journalists
specialized on IT get the news.

The GNOME project should have weight enough not to depend only on PR
networks. And therefore I would't condition the press release
translations to a factor such as the price of distributing a press
release globally or just in the US.

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Re: OSCON GNOME booth..

2005-06-13 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Yep.  Thats great if Tim and Kevin are showing up. Yay. :) to see
if my former cronies are also up too.  That eases my mind..

I see a lot of ubuntu live cd's coming ;)  BTW I could ask if
O'Reilly is willing to put the live cd in people's conference bags.
Should I ask?  (actually, I'd like to take this off list so I'm not
spamming the list)

sri

On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 11:12:26PM +0200, David Neary wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> >So OSCON is offering me a free both for GNOME Foundation and since my boss
> >as approved me attending I am going to try for it.  But I don't know if I 
> >will be able to get volunteers. :/
> 
> Jeff's going to be there. He likes GNOME.
> 
> Tim will probably also be there.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave.
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Re: Using "GNOME" and the foot logo on t-shirts/etc.

2005-06-13 Thread Fernando San Martín Woerner
El mar, 14-06-2005 a las 00:24 +0200, Erik Snoeijs escribió:
...
> 
> I don't know how far you are with business cards, but i could give you
> our design. However at the moment i can only offer a low quality one,
> and i can only get the high quality one in about a week.
> I was planning to put it on the marketing live.gnome page at some point,
> but hadn't found time to do that yet.

I'm talking about cards for non-commercial issues but to identify our
self as Members of Foundation, at least here in Chile we're 3 members.
On the other hand we i'm asking if we can use the Foot Logo in GNOME
Chile cards?

> 
> here is my blog about our cards:
> http://www.stratos-online.nl/blog/02May2005
> and here is a pdf demo of the card:
> http://www.stratos-online.nl/card_demo.pdf
> 
> we had the benefit that the company i work for also does business
> cards. 
> so we could get full color, double sided cards at no cost.

that's nice!

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Re: Using "GNOME" and the foot logo on t-shirts/etc.

2005-06-13 Thread Erik Snoeijs


On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 17:20 -0400, Fernando San Martín Woerner wrote:
> El lun, 13-06-2005 a las 22:18 +0100, Simos Xenitellis escribió:
> > Hi All,
> > We (Greek team) are planning to print some t-shirts for local use and
> > would like to use "GNOME" and the foot.
> 
> same situation here in Chile, i'm plannig to print GNOME shirts
> 
> > 
> > We would like to do it right, and in the process help others in a
> > similar situation.
> > "GNOME" and the foot logo are (c) by the GNOME Foundation.
> > 
> > 1. Does this apply to the US only? Is it worldwide? (am clueless on this
> > stuff)
> > 2. Would the GNOME Foundation like to approve first the image before
> > they are printed on the t-shirts?
> > 3. Are there SVG files from similar work?
> 
> what about bussiness cards with gnome logo, is already a policy for
> that?
> 

We at gnome-nl have already produced business cards with the gnome foot
logo.
I can't recall that it has been said anywhere from within the gnome
foundation that you can't use it for non-commercial reasons.
We simply figured that since quite a few of our members are gnome
foundation members and from the fact that we have been using the gnome
foot on our web page for ages that it would be all right.
further investigation turned up this mailing-post from Owen Taylor where
he mentions (as a opinion and not as a fact) that the gnome foot logo
can not be used for commercial business cards. this implies that it
could be possible to use them for non-commercial gnome related business
cards.
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2005-March/msg00067.html

I don't know how far you are with business cards, but i could give you
our design. However at the moment i can only offer a low quality one,
and i can only get the high quality one in about a week.
I was planning to put it on the marketing live.gnome page at some point,
but hadn't found time to do that yet.

here is my blog about our cards:
http://www.stratos-online.nl/blog/02May2005
and here is a pdf demo of the card:
http://www.stratos-online.nl/card_demo.pdf

we had the benefit that the company i work for also does business
cards. 
so we could get full color, double sided cards at no cost.


> regards
> 
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Re: OSCON GNOME booth..

2005-06-13 Thread Ken VanDine
Actually, I may be there also... We are discussing it at work now.  

--Ken

Quoting Sriram Ramkrishna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Replying to myself:
> 
> Some people asked the location and date of OSCON 05.  
> 
> http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/
> 
> 
> August 1 - 5, Portland, OR USA
> 
> Miguel and Jeff Waugh will be there and some other folks.
> 
> sri
> 
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:33:18AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> > So OSCON is offering me a free both for GNOME Foundation and since my
> boss
> > as approved me attending I am going to try for it.  But I don't know if I
> 
> > will be able to get volunteers. :/
> > 
> > I'll ask the usual suspect and see if I can get some help.  Maybe tht guy
> > Aseigo can help he's only 3 hours away. :-)
> > 
> > I'd like to try to figure out how we could run automated GNOME tours that
> > we were talking about earlier.  Things like dashboard, Xgl and other cool
> > things that I can get people to come over to the booth to look at.  The
> > goal is to set up a net, so they can come by and think "wow, thats kind
> of
> > cool"
> > 
> > sri
> > 
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Re: Using "GNOME" and the foot logo on t-shirts/etc.

2005-06-13 Thread Fernando San Martín Woerner
El lun, 13-06-2005 a las 22:18 +0100, Simos Xenitellis escribió:
> Hi All,
> We (Greek team) are planning to print some t-shirts for local use and
> would like to use "GNOME" and the foot.

same situation here in Chile, i'm plannig to print GNOME shirts

> 
> We would like to do it right, and in the process help others in a
> similar situation.
> "GNOME" and the foot logo are (c) by the GNOME Foundation.
> 
> 1. Does this apply to the US only? Is it worldwide? (am clueless on this
> stuff)
> 2. Would the GNOME Foundation like to approve first the image before
> they are printed on the t-shirts?
> 3. Are there SVG files from similar work?

what about bussiness cards with gnome logo, is already a policy for
that?

regards

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Using "GNOME" and the foot logo on t-shirts/etc.

2005-06-13 Thread Simos Xenitellis

Hi All,
We (Greek team) are planning to print some t-shirts for local use and
would like to use "GNOME" and the foot.

We would like to do it right, and in the process help others in a
similar situation.
"GNOME" and the foot logo are (c) by the GNOME Foundation.

1. Does this apply to the US only? Is it worldwide? (am clueless on this
stuff)
2. Would the GNOME Foundation like to approve first the image before
they are printed on the t-shirts?
3. Are there SVG files from similar work?

Cheers,
Simos

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Re: OSCON GNOME booth..

2005-06-13 Thread David Neary


Hi,

Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

So OSCON is offering me a free both for GNOME Foundation and since my boss
as approved me attending I am going to try for it.  But I don't know if I 
will be able to get volunteers. :/


Jeff's going to be there. He likes GNOME.

Tim will probably also be there.

Cheers,
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Re: Publishing press releases in other languages than english

2005-06-13 Thread David Neary


Hi,

Leslie Proctor wrote:

Literally - thousands of dollars for each release.


I suspect it's cheaper in France. Plus, Mandrake have offered us a 
helping hand in the past, perhaps they would be prepared to push a 
couple of locally relevant releases a year for us.



The best strategy is to localize and then do
individual e-mails to appropriate press contacts in
each country.  That's more effective (and a lot
cheaper!) than putting a release out on multiple
wires.


Agreed, this sounds sane. As I said, we have a team in place which can 
localise things like this in a day if they're on a time limit, and we 
have a short collection of press contacts which has started to build up 
in specialised press (although someone still needs to take ownership of 
that and collate the addresses, push information and so on).


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Re: Cool Unicode and GNOME

2005-06-13 Thread Simos Xenitellis
Στις 12/Ιούν/2005, ημέρα Κυριακή και ώρα 23:51, ο/η 
Andreas Nilsson
έγραψε:
> Simos Xenitellis wrote:
> 
> > What to do then?
> > * Start using these and tell the world that, "Oh, I use GNOME and this 
> > is how I get them".
> > * Make sure the freefont package is included in your distro, as it 
> > covers quite a few of those interesting characters.
> > * More free fonts with better coverage of Unicode would be nice.
> >
> > A sample:
> >
> > *☰☃☂☣★☰
> > *
> > ☎ me please so we can go out to the ☼ and play ♞ (that's just
> > chess☺). I am ♑ and I love ☮.
> >
> > Simos/Σίμος
> 
> Actually. the swedish post office has a campain right now where you can 
> put stickers with little symbols between the words just like this and 
> it's so cool. Putting sentences like this in, for example the Gaim and 
> Gnomechat screenshots would defenetly attract some of the 14 year old 
> girls that Seth talked about in his Guadec-speech to Gnome. :)

Thanks Andreas, Luis for the replies.

As I see it now, what can be done is to for those who find it
interesting, to use it in the GAIM username, add to their blog entries
and so on. If it's good, it will be caught up.

There are several nice things you can do with IT, that simply not many
people have realised they can do.

Actually, for the purposes of an experiment, could someone who has their
blog on pgo make an entry and add some interesting Unicode characters in
the entry title?
For the experiment to be trustworthy, do not mention anything about the
characters, just use them, then wait if there is interest.

For example,
"XYZ restaurant verdict: ★"
"★★★ Announcing xyz 1.2 ★★★"

Other characters (for copy/paste) are
✂✔✐✤✹✿

Or use gucharmap.

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Re: OSCON GNOME booth..

2005-06-13 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Replying to myself:

Some people asked the location and date of OSCON 05.  

http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2005/


August 1 - 5, Portland, OR USA

Miguel and Jeff Waugh will be there and some other folks.

sri

On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 09:33:18AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> So OSCON is offering me a free both for GNOME Foundation and since my boss
> as approved me attending I am going to try for it.  But I don't know if I 
> will be able to get volunteers. :/
> 
> I'll ask the usual suspect and see if I can get some help.  Maybe tht guy
> Aseigo can help he's only 3 hours away. :-)
> 
> I'd like to try to figure out how we could run automated GNOME tours that
> we were talking about earlier.  Things like dashboard, Xgl and other cool
> things that I can get people to come over to the booth to look at.  The
> goal is to set up a net, so they can come by and think "wow, thats kind of
> cool"
> 
> sri
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Re: Publishing press releases in other languages than english

2005-06-13 Thread Leslie Proctor
We now have press contacts in France, the UK and
> Germany at least. 
> Perhaps we should start gathering information on
> cost & procedure for 
> pushing press releases to wires over this side of
> the pond?

Literally - thousands of dollars for each release.  In
the US, you can do a nationwide release for between
$600- $1,000 (depending on the length of the release).
 Every European country is its own territory, so it
gets very expensive, very quickly.  In the past, we've
chosen to put some GUADEC announcements on the wire in
the appropriate country, rather than in the US.  

Novell (and other companies) often just do a US
release.  Which is often ok, because the leading
technology writers in the US are translated and posted
on sites around the world and news aggregator sites
around the world look for news of interest to
localize.

The best strategy is to localize and then do
individual e-mails to appropriate press contacts in
each country.  That's more effective (and a lot
cheaper!) than putting a release out on multiple
wires.

Leslie

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OSCON GNOME booth..

2005-06-13 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
So OSCON is offering me a free both for GNOME Foundation and since my boss
as approved me attending I am going to try for it.  But I don't know if I 
will be able to get volunteers. :/

I'll ask the usual suspect and see if I can get some help.  Maybe tht guy
Aseigo can help he's only 3 hours away. :-)

I'd like to try to figure out how we could run automated GNOME tours that
we were talking about earlier.  Things like dashboard, Xgl and other cool
things that I can get people to come over to the booth to look at.  The
goal is to set up a net, so they can come by and think "wow, thats kind of
cool"

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Re: Publishing press releases in other languages than english

2005-06-13 Thread Dave Neary


Hi,

Leslie Proctor a écrit :

We have a team of people that localize the press
releases into some languages.  We currently have
reliable people to do Portugese, Spanish and Chinese
and German.  We could use other languages. 
Volunteers?


The i18n team (which have a signle point of contact) can translate into 
up to 80 languages. There are active teams for at least 30 languages, 
including all major European languages, many of the Arabic scripts, 
several Indian languages, and a great many Pacific rim languages.


It would be nice to involve this huge and rich resource in our press 
release planning.



When the release goes out over the wire, it only goes
out in English - it's very expensive and Novell is
kind enough to do it for us.


We now have press contacts in France, the UK and Germany at least. 
Perhaps we should start gathering information on cost & procedure for 
pushing press releases to wires over this side of the pond?


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Re: Publishing press releases in other languages than english

2005-06-13 Thread Terance Edward Sola
man, 13,.06.2005 kl. 09.02 -0700, skrev Leslie Proctor:
> We have a team of people that localize the press
> releases into some languages.  We currently have
> reliable people to do Portugese, Spanish and Chinese
> and German.  We could use other languages. 
> Volunteers?
> 
> When the release goes out over the wire, it only goes
> out in English - it's very expensive and Novell is
> kind enough to do it for us.
> 
> Leslie
> 

Count Norwegian in.

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Re: Publishing press releases in other languages than english

2005-06-13 Thread Leslie Proctor
We have a team of people that localize the press
releases into some languages.  We currently have
reliable people to do Portugese, Spanish and Chinese
and German.  We could use other languages. 
Volunteers?

When the release goes out over the wire, it only goes
out in English - it's very expensive and Novell is
kind enough to do it for us.

Leslie

--- Murray Cumming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 14:21 +0200, Vincent Untz
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > According to [1], we currently publish press
> releases through Novell.
> > However, this is only for english/international
> press releases.
> > 
> > I'm wondering if we have a way to publish press
> releases in other
> > languages (e.g., french ;-)) so they can reach at
> least the "local"
> > newspapers (french/french-speaking newspapers).
> This would be useful for
> > translated GNOME press releases, but also for
> local groups press
> > releases...
> > 
> > [1] http://live.gnome.org/PressReleases
> 
> We don't have any way at the moment. I guess we'd
> need help from some 
> companies, but it's a mysterious process. Maybe the
> RedHat, Novell, SUN, etc 
> overseas offices could help.
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