Re: Journalists contacted

2006-09-07 Thread Sri Ramkrishna
Have you tried contacting Wired?

sri

On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 16:39 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> I also contacted Graeme Wearden of ZDNet and Gavin Clarke of TheRegister
> (through a web form, if anyone knows him feel free to double up).
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave.
> 
> Dave Neary wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I just sent mail to Joe Zonker Brockmeier (Newsforge and more), Ando
> > Oram (ORA), Nathan Willis (also Newsforge) and Denis Bodor (Linux
> > Magazine France) about the 2.16 release (following my own advice and 
> > centralising the knowledge).
> > 
> > Cheers, Dave.
> > 
> 
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wgo homepage structure

2006-09-07 Thread Quim Gil
Lee is doing a nice work with components and pages structures at
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/LayoutPlanning

Have a look to this no-look&feel proposal of wgo homepage structure:
http://www.leetambiah.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/downloads/layoutPlanHome0.3.svg

Tip: open it with Inkscape or similar, since Evince or similar won't
show the comments around the image.

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Re: Design Reference

2006-09-07 Thread Quim Gil
Yes, it is possible. My question is... where? The closest we have got to
a relase notes credits is what you have at the bottom of
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointFifteen/ReleaseNotes

I'm sure there is a way to credit this in the CVS changelogs, for what
is worth. Were you thinking in anything else?


El dj 07 de 09 del 2006 a les 13:16 +0300, en/na Panos Laganakos va
escriure:
> Hello Quim,
> 
> I'd like to get a reference for the 2.16 as a designer so I can link
> to it. Is that possible?
> 
> 
> Cheers!
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Re: Broken link in the release notes

2006-09-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le mercredi 06 septembre 2006 à 23:21 +0200, Carlos Fenollosa a écrit :
> http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/C/rnfeatures.html points to the
> images http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/C/figures/rnfeatures-laptop.png
> and http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/C/figures/rnfeatures-laptop2.png,
> which don't exist
> 
> Am I the only one with this problem?

Just to let everyone know: I fixed this a few hours ago.

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Re: 2.16 splash

2006-09-07 Thread Quim Gil
(Sorry for cross-posting, this thread should be kept in marketing-list)

Hi Jimmac, the logo was discussed a while ago in the marketing-list
(with the rest of the relase notes discussion), pity that we didn't have
your input by then.

In my humble opinion that 2.16 splash image is as released as GNOME
2.16. We can fix bugs in order to get a better 2.16.1, but I wouldn't
introduce new features. Instead, I would concentrate the effort creating
new splash images.  ;)

Possible bugs:

- Stretched font: Well, surely you are right here. However, we can't
change a slogan just because it's not cool to stretch fonts. I mean,
there must be a better way to implement graphically the slogan, but its
content should be mandatory on the design. "Simply Powerful" is the best
slogan candidate selected by the Marketing Team, and should stay as it
is. Can you find a solution keeping the current slogan?

- Tomboy logo/icon: which is the official, the one of the current banner
or the one you introduce in your proposal? We need to go for the
official one in the GNOME 2.16 release.

- Microphone icon: mmm the icons selected are there for a reason, they
were discussed as well. The Evolution icon is there because there were
Evolution improvements mentioned in the Release Notes. You could say
"but this microphone icon is cooler" and perhaps I would agree (I was
asking for cool logos 2 weeks ago). Now I think it's too late to reopen
a discussion and I would leave that envelope with a clock.

- Rest of design changes, like smaller GNOME logo, frame, shadows...
Again, we considered the current logo as pre-final like 1 week ago,
inviting anyone to suggest fine-tuning improvements. Now I think it's
too late.

Sorry if these arguments sound a bit rigid, but rigid deadlines and
releases are good for the GNOME code... and probably too to the rest of
GNOME projects.


El dv 08 de 09 del 2006 a les 00:04 +0200, en/na Jakub Steiner va
escriure:
> Howdy webbies!
> 
> The 2.16 splash on gnome.org has some nice feeling to it, but also some
> horrid things done to the fonts. Stretching a font like that is
> something that should be avoided. I've created a remix of the splash:
> 
> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/two-sixteen.png
> 
> Please feel free to update the front page.
> 
> cheers
> 
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Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Neary

Hi Santiago,

Santiago Roza wrote:
> i don't know about the "young" or "bright" parts :P, but i can do the
> review compiling thing again (i did it for 2.12), in case you guys are
> ok with that.

Thanks for the offer - that would be wonderful. It's a lot of work for
one person if we do it right, so I would encourage you to look for
others to help (and I would also encourage others to help).

I would like to suggest a change in approach this time - to back up the
conclusions that you make, point to relevant articles, and try to make
concrete suggestions about how to address the concerns. Developers like
to (1) know what you want them to do and (2) why. Breaking things down
into digestable action-oriented tidbits will make it easier for our
efforts to generate results later.

In other words, the more work we do, the more likely we'll have an
influence on 2.18 (for comparison, and an idea of what I'd like to see
us do, look at the openusability reports - making concrete suggestions,
backed up by real examples of people who had trouble). In fact, it might
not be a good idea to interract with the usability people (Calum, Anna,
...) to get their opinion on suggestions.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-07 Thread Santiago Roza
On 9/7/06, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Again, this
> will be a database of information for some young bright spark with some
> time who would like to analyse all the reviews and slashdot comments
> later on, and make some concrete suggestions based on those comments and
> reviews to the appropriate developer/mailing list. Let's get that
> feedback loop working for the next release.


i don't know about the "young" or "bright" parts :P, but i can do the
review compiling thing again (i did it for 2.12), in case you guys are
ok with that.


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Re: Journalists contacted

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Neary

I also contacted Graeme Wearden of ZDNet and Gavin Clarke of TheRegister
(through a web form, if anyone knows him feel free to double up).

Cheers,
Dave.

Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just sent mail to Joe Zonker Brockmeier (Newsforge and more), Ando
> Oram (ORA), Nathan Willis (also Newsforge) and Denis Bodor (Linux
> Magazine France) about the 2.16 release (following my own advice and 
> centralising the knowledge).
> 
> Cheers, Dave.
> 

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wgo Planning Document 2.16

2006-09-07 Thread Quim Gil
This is the compilation of approved documents we have got for the 2.16
release cycle:

http://live.gnome.org/data/GnomeWeb/attachments/wgoplanning216.odt
http://live.gnome.org/data/GnomeWeb/attachments/wgoplanning216.pdf

This is the current reference for any wgo planning and development work.
Hopefully useful for anybody interested in the wgo revamp but not
wanting to dig in all the wiki pages.

The idea is to update this document at the beginning of every release
cycle. The related wiki pages are open to comments at any time, but the
maintainers would need to discuss and implement feedback only every six
months. This is a way to have stable planning documents to allow stable
development work within the release cycle.

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Journalists contacted

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Neary

Hi all,

I just sent mail to Joe Zonker Brockmeier, Ando Oram, Nathan Willis and
Denis Bodor about the 2.16 release (following my own advice and
centralising the knowledge).

Cheers,
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Errors in Release Notes

2006-09-07 Thread Jordi Mallach
Hey team,

Sorry for pointing out these small problems today, and not when quim
called for reviewers, I was quite busy last week:

- backend: "Ephyphany" -> "Epiphany"

- backend: [...] "New widgets to display clickable hyperlinks,
  or to create multi-step wizards, for example and better drag-and-drop
  support in notebooks allowing tabs to be reordered [...]"

  Punctuation before "for example". I suggest:
  "These include new widgets to display clickable hyperlinks, or to create
  multi-step wizards, and better drag-and-drop [...]"

- usability: bug-buddy screenshot has noise in the lower right corner

- features: "analyse" is British English, while GNOME favours American
  forms by default. I should have not written this, because I prefer
  writing "analyse" myself :)

- somewhere in the document there's a sentence with a "plural vs
  singular" problem. I can't find it again, after a second re-read.
  Cookie to whoever finds it.

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Spreading the press release/release announcement and collecting press coverage

2006-09-07 Thread Dave Neary

Hi all,

We need to improve how we push out announcements like the announcement
of the release - while we're waiting for a nice CRM which lets us
mass-mail all the journalists we know, we need to do it by hand.

For each journalist that you know, you might want to drop them a
friendly note saying that 2.16 is out and pointing them to the release
notes. If they get the announcement 2 or 3 times, no harm - really,
they're not going to get bothered by 2 or 3 personal notes from
acquaintances. If they get the *same* email 2 or 3 times, they will get
annoyed, though - please avoid using stock emails. Ask them about their
kids while you're at it, or how that big old shaggy dog they used to
have that scared the bejesus out of you is getting on.

If you don't know any journalists, get out your computer magazines, look
at the by-lines, see if there's an email address for the geeky
journalist type, and drop him a friendly mail. Since you don't know if
he has kids, avoid that subject. A quick "I read your column, liked your
article on X, and thought you might like to know that GNOME released a
new version yesterday. There's more info here:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16";. And when you've met the shaggy dog,
you can talk about that next time.

Oh - and please mail me and/or the list with the people you mail, since
I would like to centralise all this info at some stage.

When we do get press coverage, can you all use the tag "gnome216" if you
are tagging it in del.icio.us, please? This way we can build a full list
of articles in all languages on the web about the release. Again, this
will be a database of information for some young bright spark with some
time who would like to analyse all the reviews and slashdot comments
later on, and make some concrete suggestions based on those comments and
reviews to the appropriate developer/mailing list. Let's get that
feedback loop working for the next release.

Cheers,
Dave.

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