Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-08 Thread Jason D. Clinton
Due to the complete derailment of the thread in which I posted my concerns
about the marketing effort going off the rails due to the radical
redefinition of what Gnome 3 is at the UX Hackfest, I believe that we need
to meet to discuss some strategy by which we can put the marketing train
back on-track and find a definition of what--exactly--Gnome 3 is. Two
options are:

   1. start a thread on d-d-l where Lefty and RMS aren't present and
   explictly ask that only developers participate
   2. run a poll using the polling software from which we would
   get consensus and then articulate what we find back to the larger Gnome
   community (definition by mob)

Let's meet to discuss candidly on #marketing. Here is a Doodle link. Please
select a time:
http://www.doodle.com/fau28xapd3qwr6ry
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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-08 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.comwrote:

 Let's meet to discuss candidly on #marketing.


In order to facilitate the meeting going quickly and with a minimal amount
of straying off-topic, I would like to hear on this list in advance if there
is anyone whom disagrees with the following premise or whom feels that it
needs slight modification:

From a marketing perspective we, publicly, cannot promise anything as
radically disruptive as proposed by the UX Hackfest brainstorming sessions
for delivery *after* Gnome 3.0 (whenever that release may be.) Such a
strategy would have the following outcomes:


   1. It would make our desktop look like 3.0 is half-baked
   2. It would make us look like we're experimenting on our user base
   3. It would make our desktop environment look unstable

On the other hand, should such changes happen organically--that is, not part
of a narrative about what Gnome 3 is--then so be it.


Please make your feelings known if you disagree in advance of the meeting so
that we all start from the same frame of reference.
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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Cutler
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:58 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason D. Clinton
 m...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
 Let's meet to discuss candidly on #marketing.
 
 In order to facilitate the meeting going quickly and with a minimal
 amount of straying off-topic, I would like to hear on this list in
 advance if there is anyone whom disagrees with the following premise
 or whom feels that it needs slight modification:
 
 
 From a marketing perspective we, publicly, cannot promise
 anything as radically disruptive as proposed by the UX
 Hackfest brainstorming sessions for delivery *after* Gnome 3.0
 (whenever that release may be.) Such a strategy would have the
 following outcomes:
  1. It would make our desktop look like 3.0 is half-baked
  2. It would make us look like we're experimenting on our
 user base
  3. It would make our desktop environment look unstable
 On the other hand, should such changes happen
 organically--that is, not part of a narrative about what Gnome
 3 is--then so be it.
 
 
 Please make your feelings known if you disagree in advance of the
 meeting so that we all start from the same frame of reference.
 
 

Jason, I do share your concerns.

Have you (or anyone else) reached out to the GNOME Shell team to discuss
a possible roadmap?

I'm also concerned as the GNOME Activity Journal has not been proposed
as a module yet.

Paul

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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-08 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote:

 Have you (or anyone else) reached out to the GNOME Shell team to discuss
 a possible roadmap?


Yes, I asked Jon McCann, whom was at the UX Hackfest, to join this list and
he said that he was already planning to post a blog post defining what is
possible last Wednesday. That hasn't happened yet.


 I'm also concerned as the GNOME Activity Journal has not been proposed
 as a module yet.


  I too am concerned about this. This is one of the many reasons that it may
be acceptable to think of Gnome 3.0 as Gnome 2.34 or 2.36.
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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-08 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 08.03.2010, 11:14 -0600 schrieb Paul Cutler:
 I'm also concerned as the GNOME Activity Journal has not been proposed
 as a module yet.

According to Seif today a proposal for GNOME 3 is planned.
Writing this here to avoid creation of potential rumours, based on valid
concerns raised here.

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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-08 Thread Shane Fagan
Hi,
The times you picked are very bad times for Europe except the Saturday
and Sunday. 

Shane

On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:58 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason D. Clinton
 m...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
 Let's meet to discuss candidly on #marketing.
 
 In order to facilitate the meeting going quickly and with a minimal
 amount of straying off-topic, I would like to hear on this list in
 advance if there is anyone whom disagrees with the following premise
 or whom feels that it needs slight modification:
 
 
 From a marketing perspective we, publicly, cannot promise
 anything as radically disruptive as proposed by the UX
 Hackfest brainstorming sessions for delivery *after* Gnome 3.0
 (whenever that release may be.) Such a strategy would have the
 following outcomes:
  1. It would make our desktop look like 3.0 is half-baked
  2. It would make us look like we're experimenting on our
 user base
  3. It would make our desktop environment look unstable
 On the other hand, should such changes happen
 organically--that is, not part of a narrative about what Gnome
 3 is--then so be it.
 
 
 Please make your feelings known if you disagree in advance of the
 meeting so that we all start from the same frame of reference.
 
 


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Re: Emergency marketing team meeting

2010-03-08 Thread Jason D. Clinton
I listed all of the times for an entire week which work for me. Literally
all of them. There isn't a spare moment that I have that I did not offer as
an option.

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Shane Fagan
shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Hi,
 The times you picked are very bad times for Europe except the Saturday
 and Sunday.

 Shane

 On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:58 -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Jason D. Clinton
  m...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
  Let's meet to discuss candidly on #marketing.
 
  In order to facilitate the meeting going quickly and with a minimal
  amount of straying off-topic, I would like to hear on this list in
  advance if there is anyone whom disagrees with the following premise
  or whom feels that it needs slight modification:
 
 
  From a marketing perspective we, publicly, cannot promise
  anything as radically disruptive as proposed by the UX
  Hackfest brainstorming sessions for delivery *after* Gnome 3.0
  (whenever that release may be.) Such a strategy would have the
  following outcomes:
   1. It would make our desktop look like 3.0 is half-baked
   2. It would make us look like we're experimenting on our
  user base
   3. It would make our desktop environment look unstable
  On the other hand, should such changes happen
  organically--that is, not part of a narrative about what Gnome
  3 is--then so be it.
 
 
  Please make your feelings known if you disagree in advance of the
  meeting so that we all start from the same frame of reference.
 
 



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Re: Mobile Giving Marketing Plan Draft

2010-03-08 Thread Stormy Peters
We should probably add some specifics, like ideas for text for twitter and
banners, which event to target, etc.

Stormy

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Bharat Kapoor 3.kap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Posted:
 http://live.gnome.org/Gnome%20Fund%20Raising#preview

 Please jot ur thoughts.

 Best Regards
 Bharat

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