Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Jos Poortvliet 
On Monday 11 October 2010 18:12:42 Brian Cameron wrote:
> One issue that I have noticed with screen shots taken in the past is
> that they tend to show off the way GNOME looks in a particular distro
> with distro branding, etc.  This is understandable since people taking
> screenshots would likely often overlook this as a concern.
> 
> However, if we are going to put together some more formal screenshots
> to use going forward, then it seems that it would be nice to either:
> 
> 1) Organize screenshots taken on a variety of distros so that we are
> not seen as favoring one distro over another (even unintentionally).
> This might be cool since we could show off that GNOME is widely
> used across many distributions, but might be more work to organize.
> 
> 2) Configure the desktop so that distro specific branding is removed
> before taking the screenshots, so it has more of a vanilla (or
> "unbranded") look.
> 
> If we are going to do this, then it would be useful to have some
> guidelines about how to go about taking screenshots for use by
> upstream GNOME.  Such guidelines could include infomration about how
> to reset your desktop configuration to an approved neutral unbranded
> state.  Or do such guidelines already exist somewhere?

In openSUSE you can install either the openSUSE-branding packages or the 
upstream-branding. That's how I made a few vanilla GNOME screenshots. By 
tomorrow I'll have a space to put 'em and you'll get them. Will be just 3-4 
but they might be usable for GNOME.org.

> Brian


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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Brian Cameron 


One issue that I have noticed with screen shots taken in the past is
that they tend to show off the way GNOME looks in a particular distro
with distro branding, etc.  This is understandable since people taking
screenshots would likely often overlook this as a concern.

However, if we are going to put together some more formal screenshots
to use going forward, then it seems that it would be nice to either:

1) Organize screenshots taken on a variety of distros so that we are
   not seen as favoring one distro over another (even unintentionally).
   This might be cool since we could show off that GNOME is widely
   used across many distributions, but might be more work to organize.

2) Configure the desktop so that distro specific branding is removed
   before taking the screenshots, so it has more of a vanilla (or
   "unbranded") look.

   If we are going to do this, then it would be useful to have some
   guidelines about how to go about taking screenshots for use by
   upstream GNOME.  Such guidelines could include infomration about how
   to reset your desktop configuration to an approved neutral unbranded
   state.  Or do such guidelines already exist somewhere?

Brian


On 10/11/10 10:52, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

I'm running a fairly recent jhbuild of gnome shell of which I can
provide some screenshots on ubuntu 10.01.  I'll probably need to create
a new account so I can put in a stock pic.  Also I believe Florian did
some work on showing the new look on gnome-shell that I could try to merge.

sri


On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Jason Clinton mailto:m...@jasonclinton.com>> wrote:

Fedora Rawhide + jhbuild GNOME Shell may be the best bet at getting
anything remotely close to what it will look like but the new GTK+
theme hasn't landed and the Shell revamp hasn't either.


On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:07, Stormy Peters mailto:sto...@gnome.org>> wrote:

I put those that I know of here:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters

But
we could really, really use some good screenshots if anyone has
the time to take some.

Stormy

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Paul Cutler mailto:pcut...@gnome.org>> wrote:

Hi GNOME Marketing Team!

I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late
yesterday with an urgent request for a website they are
building targeting the press that is going up Wed.  From the
email:

Could you please help out with two-three screenshots
representative for what
GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one
for handheld, one
for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from
vimeo, youtube and
similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some
easy-to-pick nice
pictures/videos to use in their writings


Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of
GNOME 3.0) - I think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that
is what will be released by the time of the Desktop Summit
next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME Miro community?  I
think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
formal handheld or tablet experience yet.

Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find
tonight and forward it on.

Paul

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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna 
OK.  Ubuntu tends to muck with all their multimedia stuff, so totem might be
a bit suspect.  I'll go ahead and merge Florian's patches in and take some
screenshots just in case.  Besides, I"m curious to see how it turned out
anyways. :)

sri

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Jason Clinton  wrote:

> Yes, having Florian's branch for the GNOME 3 pictures would be the only
> thing we'd want to show. Rawhide would be best because, for example, Totem
> shows off the ability of a multimedia app to choose to use a dark variant of
> a theme for better contrast against video and photos. However, Rawhide is
> very, very unstable right now.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:52, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>
>> I'm running a fairly recent jhbuild of gnome shell of which I can provide
>> some screenshots on ubuntu 10.01.  I'll probably need to create a new
>> account so I can put in a stock pic.  Also I believe Florian did some work
>> on showing the new look on gnome-shell that I could try to merge.
>>
>> sri
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Jason Clinton wrote:
>>
>>> Fedora Rawhide + jhbuild GNOME Shell may be the best bet at getting
>>> anything remotely close to what it will look like but the new GTK+ theme
>>> hasn't landed and the Shell revamp hasn't either.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:07, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>>>
 I put those that I know of here:
 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters

 But we
 could really, really use some good screenshots if anyone has the time to
 take some.

 Stormy

 On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Paul Cutler  wrote:

> Hi GNOME Marketing Team!
>
> I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday
> with an urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press
> that is going up Wed.  From the email:
>
> Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for
> what
> GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for handheld,
> one
> for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from vimeo,
> youtube and
> similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some easy-to-pick nice
> pictures/videos to use in their writings
>
>
> Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I
> think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released by
> the time of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME Miro
> community?  I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
> formal handheld or tablet experience yet.
>
> Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and
> forward it on.
>
> Paul
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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Jason Clinton 
Yes, having Florian's branch for the GNOME 3 pictures would be the only
thing we'd want to show. Rawhide would be best because, for example, Totem
shows off the ability of a multimedia app to choose to use a dark variant of
a theme for better contrast against video and photos. However, Rawhide is
very, very unstable right now.

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:52, Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:

> I'm running a fairly recent jhbuild of gnome shell of which I can provide
> some screenshots on ubuntu 10.01.  I'll probably need to create a new
> account so I can put in a stock pic.  Also I believe Florian did some work
> on showing the new look on gnome-shell that I could try to merge.
>
> sri
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Jason Clinton  wrote:
>
>> Fedora Rawhide + jhbuild GNOME Shell may be the best bet at getting
>> anything remotely close to what it will look like but the new GTK+ theme
>> hasn't landed and the Shell revamp hasn't either.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:07, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>>
>>> I put those that I know of here:
>>> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters
>>>
>>> But we
>>> could really, really use some good screenshots if anyone has the time to
>>> take some.
>>>
>>> Stormy
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Paul Cutler  wrote:
>>>
 Hi GNOME Marketing Team!

 I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday
 with an urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press
 that is going up Wed.  From the email:

 Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for
 what
 GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for handheld,
 one
 for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from vimeo, youtube
 and
 similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some easy-to-pick nice
 pictures/videos to use in their writings


 Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I
 think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released by
 the time of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME Miro
 community?  I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
 formal handheld or tablet experience yet.

 Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and
 forward it on.

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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna 
I'm running a fairly recent jhbuild of gnome shell of which I can provide
some screenshots on ubuntu 10.01.  I'll probably need to create a new
account so I can put in a stock pic.  Also I believe Florian did some work
on showing the new look on gnome-shell that I could try to merge.

sri


On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Jason Clinton  wrote:

> Fedora Rawhide + jhbuild GNOME Shell may be the best bet at getting
> anything remotely close to what it will look like but the new GTK+ theme
> hasn't landed and the Shell revamp hasn't either.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:07, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>
>> I put those that I know of here:
>> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters
>>
>> But we
>> could really, really use some good screenshots if anyone has the time to
>> take some.
>>
>> Stormy
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Paul Cutler  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi GNOME Marketing Team!
>>>
>>> I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday with
>>> an urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press that
>>> is going up Wed.  From the email:
>>>
>>> Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for
>>> what
>>> GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for handheld,
>>> one
>>> for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from vimeo, youtube
>>> and
>>> similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some easy-to-pick nice
>>> pictures/videos to use in their writings
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I
>>> think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released by
>>> the time of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME Miro
>>> community?  I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
>>> formal handheld or tablet experience yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and
>>> forward it on.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Joey Ferwerda 
A rather simple way to make good screenshots, is using a VM system (may i
suggest Virtualbox?)

Just install the gnome livedisk and update to the most recent gnome, or
install a random distro and use the vanilla theme from the art git.

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Paul Cutler  wrote:

> Or the Google Code / GHOP project that's coming next month as well.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jos,
>>
>> I agree that we need more and better screenshots. Having a nice page on
>> gnome.org would be good too.
>>
>> I put the screenshots I found on the wiki here:
>> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters
>>
>> I'm thinking this would be a great project for the people applying for the
>> Outreach project that need to do a project as part of their application. I'm
>> going to go try to talk one of them into it now!
>>
>> Stormy
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Jos Poortvliet 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday 04 October 2010 17:49:16 Paul Cutler wrote:
>>> > Hi GNOME Marketing Team!
>>> >
>>> > I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday
>>> with
>>> > an urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press
>>> that
>>> > is going up Wed.  From the email:
>>> >
>>> > Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for
>>> > what GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for
>>> > handheld, one for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from
>>> > vimeo, youtube and similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some
>>> > easy-to-pick nice pictures/videos to use in their writings
>>>
>>> In general, having a page with some nice screenshots (compare for example
>>> what
>>> KDE has here: http://kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/ ) would be very
>>> helpful. I am trying to create a 'slideshow' with cool GNOME screenshots
>>> but
>>> there are a few things making it harder:
>>> - no good 'official' screenshots on gnome.org (that I know off) and most
>>> screenshots I can find are not with the default GNOME look and feel
>>> - GNOME3 screenshots are a bit outdated.
>>>
>>> I have installed a clean GNOME install on openSUSE but that's also not
>>> vanilla, with the modified panel setup and all. It's fine for openSUSE
>>> promo
>>> purpose, of course - but not for general GNOME. I will share what I have
>>> made
>>> once it is done - but note that it will be openSUSE, not vanilla.
>>>
>>> > Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I
>>> > think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released
>>> by
>>> > the time of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME
>>> Miro
>>> > community? I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
>>> > formal handheld or tablet experience yet.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and
>>> > forward it on.
>>> >
>>> > Paul
>>>
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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Paul Cutler 
Or the Google Code / GHOP project that's coming next month as well.

Paul

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> Hi Jos,
>
> I agree that we need more and better screenshots. Having a nice page on
> gnome.org would be good too.
>
> I put the screenshots I found on the wiki here:
> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters
>
> I'm thinking this would be a great project for the people applying for the
> Outreach project that need to do a project as part of their application. I'm
> going to go try to talk one of them into it now!
>
> Stormy
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Jos Poortvliet 
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday 04 October 2010 17:49:16 Paul Cutler wrote:
>> > Hi GNOME Marketing Team!
>> >
>> > I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday
>> with
>> > an urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press
>> that
>> > is going up Wed.  From the email:
>> >
>> > Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for
>> > what GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for
>> > handheld, one for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from
>> > vimeo, youtube and similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some
>> > easy-to-pick nice pictures/videos to use in their writings
>>
>> In general, having a page with some nice screenshots (compare for example
>> what
>> KDE has here: http://kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/ ) would be very
>> helpful. I am trying to create a 'slideshow' with cool GNOME screenshots
>> but
>> there are a few things making it harder:
>> - no good 'official' screenshots on gnome.org (that I know off) and most
>> screenshots I can find are not with the default GNOME look and feel
>> - GNOME3 screenshots are a bit outdated.
>>
>> I have installed a clean GNOME install on openSUSE but that's also not
>> vanilla, with the modified panel setup and all. It's fine for openSUSE
>> promo
>> purpose, of course - but not for general GNOME. I will share what I have
>> made
>> once it is done - but note that it will be openSUSE, not vanilla.
>>
>> > Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I
>> > think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released
>> by
>> > the time of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME
>> Miro
>> > community? I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
>> > formal handheld or tablet experience yet.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and
>> > forward it on.
>> >
>> > Paul
>>
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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Stormy Peters 
Hi Jos,

I agree that we need more and better screenshots. Having a nice page on
gnome.org would be good too.

I put the screenshots I found on the wiki here:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Posters

I'm thinking this would be a great project for the people applying for the
Outreach project that need to do a project as part of their application. I'm
going to go try to talk one of them into it now!

Stormy

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

> On Monday 04 October 2010 17:49:16 Paul Cutler wrote:
> > Hi GNOME Marketing Team!
> >
> > I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday with
> > an urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press
> that
> > is going up Wed.  From the email:
> >
> > Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for
> > what GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for
> > handheld, one for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from
> > vimeo, youtube and similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some
> > easy-to-pick nice pictures/videos to use in their writings
>
> In general, having a page with some nice screenshots (compare for example
> what
> KDE has here: http://kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/ ) would be very
> helpful. I am trying to create a 'slideshow' with cool GNOME screenshots
> but
> there are a few things making it harder:
> - no good 'official' screenshots on gnome.org (that I know off) and most
> screenshots I can find are not with the default GNOME look and feel
> - GNOME3 screenshots are a bit outdated.
>
> I have installed a clean GNOME install on openSUSE but that's also not
> vanilla, with the modified panel setup and all. It's fine for openSUSE
> promo
> purpose, of course - but not for general GNOME. I will share what I have
> made
> once it is done - but note that it will be openSUSE, not vanilla.
>
> > Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I
> > think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released by
> > the time of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME Miro
> > community? I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
> > formal handheld or tablet experience yet.
> >
> > Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and
> > forward it on.
> >
> > Paul
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Re: Urgent - Screenshots needed

2010-10-11 Thread Jos Poortvliet 
On Monday 04 October 2010 17:49:16 Paul Cutler wrote:
> Hi GNOME Marketing Team!
> 
> I received an email from the Desktop Summit 2011 team late yesterday with
> an urgent request for a website they are building targeting the press that
> is going up Wed.  From the email:
> 
> Could you please help out with two-three screenshots representative for
> what GNOME software is about? One for desktop form factor, one for
> handheld, one for tablet, perhaps also some demo video embedddable from
> vimeo, youtube and similar? Thanks. Idea is to give journalists some
> easy-to-pick nice pictures/videos to use in their writings

In general, having a page with some nice screenshots (compare for example what 
KDE has here: http://kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/ ) would be very 
helpful. I am trying to create a 'slideshow' with cool GNOME screenshots but 
there are a few things making it harder:
- no good 'official' screenshots on gnome.org (that I know off) and most 
screenshots I can find are not with the default GNOME look and feel
- GNOME3 screenshots are a bit outdated.

I have installed a clean GNOME install on openSUSE but that's also not 
vanilla, with the modified panel setup and all. It's fine for openSUSE promo 
purpose, of course - but not for general GNOME. I will share what I have made 
once it is done - but note that it will be openSUSE, not vanilla.

> Does anyone have any ideas - screenshots (preferably of GNOME 3.0) - I
> think we want to focus on GNOME Shell as that is what will be released by
> the time of the Desktop Summit next summer.  Any videos on the GNOME Miro
> community? I think we can just focus on the desktop - we don't have a
> formal handheld or tablet experience yet.
> 
> Thanks for the help - I'll help compile anything we find tonight and
> forward it on.
> 
> Paul


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Re: Booth Slides

2010-10-11 Thread Dave Neary 
Hi,

Christer Edwards wrote:
> I'm manning the GNOME booth this year at the Utah Open Source
> Conference. They planted us just next to the KDE booth, I'm sure as a
> little joke.

Conferences always do that - I guess they have this idea that we don't
*really* hate each other... I wonder what makes them think that. (Hi Jos!)

> In any case, the KDE booth has a nice graphical slideshow of
> information about KDE. While we have more swag (stickers, etc) they
> have active information rotating about their project.

Definitely a nice idea.

> I hope we'll be able to come up with something similar for future 
> conferences..

I'd suggest (as I usually do) concentrating on applications - not what
is strictly GNOME, but what the user can do easily using GNOME.

On that note, here's a selection of ideas for a 10 minute slideshow (20s
per slide, 30 slides):

* Organise your photos
 - Present F-Spot (although it does look like Shotwell is fast gaining
in stature & may become the de factor GNOME photo management app within
a year or so) - logo & default application screenshot
 - Easy import: "You have plugged in a device with photos" dialog
 - Tags & search: Using metadata to get relevant content quickly
 - Easy export: Export to Flickr, Picasa, web page, etc...

* Multimedia
 - Playing video with Totem
 - Handles subtitles, DVD chapters, etc
 - Telestrator support with Gromit (I love this, and it makes for cool
screenshots)
 - Manage music collection with Rhythmbox (or Banshee - not going to get
into a religious war)
 - Get content from online stores (Amazon, last.fm, Jamendo, Magnatunes)
 - Follow your favourite podcasts
 - Easy ripping & import of CDs
 - Easy burning of audio CDs

* Media creation
 - Pitivi for creating video montages & slideshows
 - Cheese, GNOME Audio Recorder,  for recording video, audio
 - Record my desktop for screencasts maybe?

* Games?
 - Slides of common games

* Graphics
 - Inkscape
 - The GIMP (a couple of slides doing some photo manipulation)
 - Agave (Plan colour schemes)

* Internet
 - Instant messaging: Pidgin? Empathy?
 - Web: Do we want to show Epiphany? Or advertise that Firefox
integrates well with GNOME?
 - Email: Same thing: Evolution or Thunderbird?

* Programming
 - Text editor
 - Eclipse
 - Glade
 - Devhelp

What other stuff could we advertise? Hardware integration? Tomboy?
Accessibility (how to show this on slides, though?)? Anything else?

Cheers,
Dave.

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Dave Neary
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