Re: Short slide decks for use in GNOME community presentations

2011-01-07 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Vikram Vaswani 
vikram.vasw...@initmarketing.com wrote:

 Hello all

 My name is Vikram Vaswani and I work with Initmarketing, the open source
 marketing agency (www.initmarketing.com). We've been working with the
 GNOME Foundation for the last few weeks to build a set of modular slide
 decks for community members to use when making presentations.


That's great!



 We currently have nine decks covering the following topics:

 - GNOME Overview
 - GNOME History
 - GNOME Foundation
 - GNOME Accessibility
 - GNOME Mobile
 - GNOME 3 Applications
 - How to Contribute to GNOME
 - GNOME for Users
 - Getting Started with GNOME Development

 You can find them here:
 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Presentations?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=gnome-slides-2.zip

 They are also linked on the Presentations page of the wiki (under Short
 Topic Segments):
 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Presentations

 These decks are designed to be mix and match - you can use them as is
 for presentations on the above topics, or combine decks from different
 slides to build your own presentation as per your needs.

 We'd be interested in any feedback on these slides; please post your
 feedback directly to the list. We'll collect feedback until the second week
 of January and then make revisions as per feedback.


Has anybody gotten back to you regarding this?  We are heading into the
second of week of January now.


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Re: Short slide decks for use in GNOME community presentations

2011-01-07 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
Is this related to a recent mail by Paul Cutler:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-December/msg00077.html

?

sri


On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Vikram Vaswani 
vikram.vasw...@initmarketing.com wrote:

 Hello all

 My name is Vikram Vaswani and I work with Initmarketing, the open source
 marketing agency (www.initmarketing.com). We've been working with the
 GNOME Foundation for the last few weeks to build a set of modular slide
 decks for community members to use when making presentations.

 We currently have nine decks covering the following topics:

 - GNOME Overview
 - GNOME History
 - GNOME Foundation
 - GNOME Accessibility
 - GNOME Mobile
 - GNOME 3 Applications
 - How to Contribute to GNOME
 - GNOME for Users
 - Getting Started with GNOME Development

 You can find them here:
 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Presentations?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=gnome-slides-2.zip

 They are also linked on the Presentations page of the wiki (under Short
 Topic Segments):
 http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingMaterial/Presentations

 These decks are designed to be mix and match - you can use them as is
 for presentations on the above topics, or combine decks from different
 slides to build your own presentation as per your needs.

 We'd be interested in any feedback on these slides; please post your
 feedback directly to the list. We'll collect feedback until the second week
 of January and then make revisions as per feedback.

 Many thanks in advance for your participation,

 Vikram Vaswani
 Initmarketing
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Re: Short slide decks for use in GNOME community presentations

2011-01-07 Thread Vikram Vaswani

Hi Sriram,


We'd be interested in any feedback on these slides; please post your
feedback directly to the list. We'll collect feedback until the second week
of January and then make revisions as per feedback.



Has anybody gotten back to you regarding this?  We are heading into the
second of week of January now.


Nope, no feedback yet.

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Re: Pre-release marketing and community management [Was: getting www.gnome3.org]

2011-01-07 Thread Allan Day
Stormy Peters wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me
 wrote:
 
 We didn't do this for 2.0 which fed into a lot of rage on a
 number of forums.  Nobody could understand why we were
 removing features or the philosophy behind it.  Because of
 that history, Gnome 3.0 will fall into the same cycle.  Let's
 hope we can avoid doing it this time with a little forethought
 now that we are a lot more mature project. :-)
 
 
 So my concern isn't making sure everyone agrees or even gets it but
 rather that everyone who wants to can explain why we did it (or at
 least point to somewhere that does explain.)
 
 Is someone willing to go through archives and talk to the people close
 to the decision to try to document the features and rationale?

That was my plan for the shell design page. I'm familiar with most of
the design principles as well as the documentation which has been
produced. I can also dredge the lists, and I can harass Jon and Jimmac
if it comes down to it. :)

Sri's comments earlier in this thread point to the desire for an
evidence base or some kind of research into the shell. I think we do
have some good material there, as I pointed out on desktop-devel
recently [1]. We need that in a public place too.

Allan

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Re: Pre-release marketing and community management [Was: getting www.gnome3.org]

2011-01-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
 Yes, if you're defining developers as maintainers of core modules. 
 Unfortunately, people will go into deskop-devel because there is no
 community mailing list that they can go to.  So they will participate in
 the forum that they believe has the audience they seek.  Unless you
 close DDL of course.

It is not the job of the mailing lists to provide an expert audience to
non-experts who want to complain to them.

If we need to moderate d-d-l to reclaim it for Real Work, then so be it.

 How about creating a forum or something and keep such people out of the
 regular mailing lists instead? 

http://www.gnomesupport.org could use more visibility  some official
community buy-in. A more active Development forum would be useful.

Cheers,
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Re: Pre-release marketing and community management [Was: getting www.gnome3.org]

2011-01-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Allan Day wrote:
 Sri's comments earlier in this thread point to the desire for an
 evidence base or some kind of research into the shell. I think we do
 have some good material there, as I pointed out on desktop-devel
 recently [1]. We need that in a public place too.

Bear in mind when publishing research that the response can be lukewarm
if the content doesn't live (cf. betterdesktop.org initiative Anna Dirks
from Novell was involved in a few years back).

(just a data point)

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Re: Short slide decks for use in GNOME community presentations

2011-01-07 Thread Vikram Vaswani

Hi Sriram,


Is this related to a recent mail by Paul Cutler:

http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-December/msg00077.html


No, it's not.

I'd encourage everyone to take a look at the slides and send 
thoughts/feedback to the list within next week. Many thanks in advance 
for your time.


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Re: FoG pending Tasks

2011-01-07 Thread Lucas Rocha
Hi Og,

2011/1/6 Og Maciel ogmac...@gnome.org:
 Lucas,

 Paul Cutler has already pushed the text to the /friends/ directory in
 gnomewml. Could you make the changes for us?

Sure. I just need a few more details to get the ruler ready to publish:
- Are showing a counter of subscribers as a progress bar?
- How many subscribers do we currently have?
- Target number of subscribers is 400, right?

Once it's ready, should I publish it straight away or should I wait
for something (press release, blog post, etc) on your side first?

Cheers!

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Re: FoG pending Tasks

2011-01-07 Thread Og Maciel
Hey Lucas!

 Sure. I just need a few more details to get the ruler ready to publish:
 - Are showing a counter of subscribers as a progress bar?

Yes

 - How many subscribers do we currently have?

Sadly, 13 is what I came up with since we launched. :/

 - Target number of subscribers is 400, right?
 Yes

 Once it's ready, should I publish it straight away or should I wait
 for something (press release, blog post, etc) on your side first?

You can go ahead and publish it. We will follow up with blog more
posts and social network messages, etc.

Thank you so much for doing this Lucas! :)

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Re: FoG pending Tasks

2011-01-07 Thread Lucas Rocha
Hi,

It's now published on www.gnome.org and planet.gnome.org. Let me know
if you need any further support.

Cheers!

--lucasr


2011/1/7 Og Maciel ogmac...@gnome.org:
 Hey Lucas!

 Sure. I just need a few more details to get the ruler ready to publish:
 - Are showing a counter of subscribers as a progress bar?

 Yes

 - How many subscribers do we currently have?

 Sadly, 13 is what I came up with since we launched. :/

 - Target number of subscribers is 400, right?
  Yes

 Once it's ready, should I publish it straight away or should I wait
 for something (press release, blog post, etc) on your side first?

 You can go ahead and publish it. We will follow up with blog more
 posts and social network messages, etc.

 Thank you so much for doing this Lucas! :)

 Cheers,
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 omac...@foresightlinux.org
 ogmac...@gnome.org

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FoG website update

2011-01-07 Thread Paul Cutler
Hi,
I just pushed a couple small updates to the Friends website[1].  I
updated the sidebar to be add updates from 2010, including a11y,
usability and hiring a sysadmin.  (It was showing 2008 stuff!)

I also updated the Amazon page[2] with support for Chromium and Chrome
from Jaap's last blog post.  (Thanks Jaap!)

Paul

[1] http://www.gnome.org/friends/
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Re: GCI: Update Gnome Usergroup Info, Introduction

2011-01-07 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Jason,

To get around Melange's funky feature set, can you please resubmit this
update plus a link to the wiki page as Work submitted? I will then be
able to extend the deadline for you.

Thanks!
Dave.

Jason Lo wrote:
 Hi, just an update. I've sent emails to Gnome Australia, Brazil,
 Chicago, Chile, China, and Deutschland so far, and am waiting for replies.
 
 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org
 mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Jason Lo wrote:
  It seems to fit more with contact addresses. You said to a previous
  student that there were others doing this task as well, and that I
  should coordinate my efforts with them to make sure we don't
 pester the
  same folks over and over again. Also, in your post on GCI, you
 said you
  would provide emails that I could send this to.
 
 There is the gugmasters list:
 http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gugmasters-list - but I think if
 you mail the list, you will not get a good response rate. Worth trying -
 but if you don't get a good response rate, we can try  send an email to
 each member individually. Perhaps I could do it on your behalf...
 
 The other contacts are those in this wiki page. The list of lists you
 point to is OK, but bear in mind that mailing a list is hit  miss at
 best. You might get a better response rate by sending an email to the
 Contact field, if it's set. The French one is definitely out of date,
 though :) You should contact Vincent Untz instead.
 
 There is also a GNOME developing world list: developing-world-list - I
 don't really know who's on it.
 
 You will need to be persistent, and make sure you keep us posted on what
 groups you have information for, and which you don't, when information
 starts coming in.
 
 Thanks!
 Dave.
 
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Re: Short slide decks for use in GNOME community presentations

2011-01-07 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Vikram Vaswani 
vikram.vasw...@initmarketing.com wrote:

 Hi Sriram,


  We'd be interested in any feedback on these slides; please post your
 feedback directly to the list. We'll collect feedback until the second
 week
 of January and then make revisions as per feedback.


  Has anybody gotten back to you regarding this?  We are heading into the
 second of week of January now.


 Nope, no feedback yet.

 Vikram



I have to make two presentations on Gnome 3.0 so I'll evaluate them and send
you some feedback.  I think I'll do as Dave as suggested which is to come up
with a mix and match 30 minute presentation.  It will be good practice for
me.

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Re: Pre-release marketing and community management [Was: getting www.gnome3.org]

2011-01-07 Thread Stormy Peters
Hi Allan,

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:


  Is someone willing to go through archives and talk to the people close
  to the decision to try to document the features and rationale?

 That was my plan for the shell design page. I'm familiar with most of
 the design principles as well as the documentation which has been
 produced. I can also dredge the lists, and I can harass Jon and Jimmac
 if it comes down to it. :)

 That'd be great. We could start it on the wiki and then move it to
gnome3.org/... when it's ready.

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Re: Short slide decks for use in GNOME community presentations

2011-01-07 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 06:19, Vikram Vaswani 
vikram.vasw...@initmarketing.com wrote:

 - GNOME 3 Applications
 ...

- GNOME for Users


These are the only two which concern me; the others look great.
Particularly, the jhbuild modulesets now define featured applications which
comply with our GNOME Goals. I'm not sure how we will manage the attention
to these applications from a marketing perspective. There was a discussion
about this at the Boston Summit 2010 but ultimately it's up to the release
team. The Users deck should probably have a slide about the user experience
improvements in Shell.
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Gnome or GNOME?

2011-01-07 Thread Sriram Ramkrishna
OK, I'm a bit confused here.  For some reason I thought we had decided to go
from GNOME to Gnome as GNOME is no longer considered an abbreviation.  Is
this true?  It just seems that we seem to be using the two interchangeably.
For my part, I'm using Gnome.

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Re: Gnome or GNOME?

2011-01-07 Thread Jason D. Clinton
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2010-April/msg00052.html

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 15:46, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:

 OK, I'm a bit confused here.  For some reason I thought we had decided to
 go from GNOME to Gnome as GNOME is no longer considered an abbreviation.  Is
 this true?  It just seems that we seem to be using the two interchangeably.
 For my part, I'm using Gnome.

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