Re: Introductions
Do you? ;) I'm behdad by the way. Just listening and occasionally teasing. behdad On 02/16/2010 07:16 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I am.. er sri. I don't seem to have a role other than to participate and snark. I do occasionally come up with good ideas that I have no time to implement. sri On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Nelson Marques wrote: I would like to ask one thing to this list, would it be possible for people to introduce themselfs and say what is their role around on the list? Dave Neary http://live.gnome.org/DaveNeary http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh http://dneary.free.fr http://www.neary-consulting.com http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmiid=2873233pvs=ppauthToken=qu0IauthType=nametrk=ndir_viewmorelnk=vw_pprofile http://www.linkedin.com/ppl/webprofile?action=vmiid=2873233pvs=ppauthToken=qu0IauthType=nametrk=ndir_viewmorelnk=vw_pprofile http://www.google.com/search?q=Dave+Nearyie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:officialclient=firefox-a http://www.google.com/search?q=Dave+Nearyie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:officialclient=firefox-a I started many of the initiatives the marketing team is now working on - collecting marketing materials, co-ordinating user groups, researching a GNOME store, having a regular annual marketing community travel budget, having an annual foundation report (I wrote most of the first one, and a good bit of the 2nd and 3rd), getting using a CRM, and I'm currently working on a GNOME census to answer some of the questions we keep getting asked have no good answer for. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome miro community
On 01/20/2010 10:49 AM, Sven Herzberg wrote: Is it the case that anyone can use Gnome branding? IIRC, the foundation has always tolerated what I would call fair-use of the logo. But the foundation's board would be the best persons to talk to about legal things. Correct. I don't think you need to contact foundation board for this particular use case. But if you want to be on the safe side, please email bo...@gnome.org. Cheers, behdad PS. I really like the idea of collecting all GNOME videos in one place. Thanks! Regards, Sven -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Mozilla draft press release: Deadline for input Friday 16:00 UTC
Hi Zonker, Wow, 2020? ;) Shouldn't we also mention that MoCo also donated 10k towards GNOME a11y in 2008? behdad On 01/14/2010 12:31 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote: Hi all, Draft release attached / included. Rough draft. Looking for input and corrections. Thanks! Mozilla Sponsors GNOME Accessibility Efforts BOSTON, Mass -- January 19, 2020 -- The GNOME Foundation is happy to announce a substantial donation from the Mozilla Corporation to benefit the GNOME Project's accessibility efforts. The donation will help continue the collaborative efforts between GNOME and Mozilla on Accessibility. The Mozilla Corporation is granting the GNOME Foundation $10,000 for 2010. The funds will be used in part to send GNOME developers to the CSUN Conference. CSUN is one of the premier technology conferences for people with disabilities, and by funding an accessibility hackfest at the conference can ensure a diverse group of GNOME developers are immersed in the accessibility space. The direct impact of the Mozilla funding has allowed GNOME to add Accessible Rich Internet Applications (ARIA) support to the Orca screen reader and other accessibility enhancements in GNOME, said William Walker of the GNOME Accessibility Team. All these helped make GNOME/Orca a compelling free alternative to commercial products for the visually impaired. As a result, we're seeing users around the world using GNOME as their every day solution. GNOME has had great success integrating internationalization (i18n) into the core platform, as a part of shared responsibility for all developers. Accessibility is also taking its place as a core value of the platform. Sending GNOME developers to CSUN will help to ensure that developers working on all areas of GNOME are well-educated on accessibility issues and continue to build accessibility features and functions into GNOME rather than bolted-on features. As the leading free software desktop, the GNOME Project's work is particularly important to Mozilla, said Frank Hecker of Mozilla Corporation. The work so far has improved accessibility not only for Firefox, but the entire GNOME platform. The GNOME Foundation and Mozilla are committed to open source, open standards, and open formats. Both organizations and their contributors contribute to numerous projects to ensure an open Web and open desktop platform for all users. Part of that effort is working hard to ensure users with physical disabilities are able to make use of a free desktop and Web browser. About GNOME and the GNOME Foundation GNOME is a free-software project whose goal is to develop a complete, accessible and easy to use desktop for Linux and Unix-based operating systems. GNOME also includes a complete development environment to create new applications. It is released twice a year on a regular schedule. The GNOME desktop is used by millions of people around the world. GNOME is a standard part of all leading GNU/Linux and Unix distributions, and is popular with both large existing corporate deployments and millions of small business and home users worldwide. Composed of hundreds of volunteer developers and industry-leading companies, the GNOME Foundation is an organization committed to supporting the advancement of GNOME. The Foundation is a member directed, non-profit organization that provides financial, organizational and legal support to the GNOME project and helps determine its vision and roadmap. More information about GNOME and the GNOME Foundation can be found at www.gnome.org and foundation.gnome.org. Media Enquiries GNOME Foundation Executive Director Stormy Peters Email: gnome-press-cont...@gnome.org Phone: +1 617-206-3947 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME Merchandise Queen or King needed (Was: GNOME US Event Box)
On 12/09/2009 04:17 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org wrote: For those interested in helping out, we are also looking for someone to send out Friends of GNOME gifts. I'm hoping this can mostly be done through our Zazzle store once it's up and running but right now it means maintaining our stash of goodies (stickers, tshirts, mugs, etc) and mailing them out every couple of weeks to people that have donated to Friends of GNOME. If you are interested, let me know. I wonder if doing it through zazzle will be too expensive? On the other hand, if going to do it through zazzle, and we're talking about a month or two from now, then maybe we don't need to find anyone? Brian Cameron suggested that we should offer an incentive to take this job. Besides the obvious one of: * First access to all the gifts. And perhaps you'd need to try one of each out to make sure the quality was good? What other incentives do people would think would be attractive? Some that Brian and I thought of: * A title. * Recommendations on LinkedIn for your work. * Guaranteed travel sponsorship to GUADEC. (Or event of your choosing.) * Cash payment. ... Thoughts? Before making it too enticing, this is a US-only position, right? Should make it clear. Cheers, behdad Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME Merchandise Queen or King needed (Was: GNOME US Event Box)
On 12/09/2009 04:22 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org mailto:beh...@behdad.org wrote: Before making it too enticing, this is a US-only position, right? Should make it clear. Some where with good, reliable postal service that is at least as cost effective as the US one. The gifts actually go world wide. I haven't looked to see which percentage go to the US. Right. But shipping a bulk off-shore we probably have to pay customs on them. behdad Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Gnome Foundation Ad On FSF Endorsed Network
I'd say just go for it. behdad On 12/03/2009 03:32 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: I definitely think we should try it. Stormy On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me mailto:s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Jeremy, Has anybody contacted you regarding this? I didn't see any responses here so I wasn't sure if there was interest at all. Is there interest in creating an ad for use here? sri On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeremy Andrews jer...@tag1consulting.com mailto:jer...@tag1consulting.com wrote: Hello, I hope this mailing list is the correct place to send this offer, my apologies in advance if it is not. We recently launched the Ad Bard Network aiming to connect FLOSS relevant businesses with free software community users, influencers, developers and architects. The network operates under the guidance of the Free Software Foundation: http://www.fsf.org/news/ad-bard We would like to donate an advertisement to the Gnome Foundation. Tag1 Consulting will pay the $250 fee for your advertisement, however you will need to provide the actual ad which must be directly relevant to free and open source software. Your ad will then be displayed on all Ad Bard member websites through the month of December, 2009. We do not ask anything in return, we are simply working to spread the word about our new advertising network and to provide relevant advertisements for our publishers: http://adbard.net/adbard/websites In order to move forward on this, we will need an image and text which will be used as your advertisement. The advertisement must be a jpg, png, or static gif measuring 120 pixels wide by 90 pixels tall. The text must be no more than 80 characters long. We will also need to know where to link the advertisement to. http://adbard.net/faq Please let me know if you have any questions. I can be reached by email at jer...@tag1consulting.com mailto:jer...@tag1consulting.com, or toll free at 877-875-8824 x100. Thanks, -Jeremy The Ad Bard Network: http://adbard.net -- Jeremy Andrews 877-875-8824 x100 Tag1 Consulting, Inc. http://tag1consulting.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Store
On 12/02/2009 02:40 PM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote: On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Paul Cutlerpcut...@gnome.org wrote: What I need the marketing team's help with is: What products and merchandise should we offer with the GNOME logo? We have 6 t-shirt designs up, and can also add products such as coffee mugs, tote bags, hats, sweatshirts and more. I'd keep it relatively simple -- so no more than three or four things aside from the t-shirts. (I suspect there's some study that would show that choice overload results in fewer sales...) But definitely a mug, hat, and sweatshirt. I agree with Keep it simple. I would say no more than 8 items, total. Including t-shirts. Yep. The good thing about Zazzle is that they have the tshirts in a wide variety of colors. I would like to see t-shirt, polo shirt, maybe sweatshirt (not convinced), mug, and perhaps a poster or two. I'd avoid tote bags and hats. I'd say drop a couple green stuff in there. Water bottle and/or coffee mug. behdad One polo shirt design, with an equivalent t-shirt design, and 2 or 3 t-shirt only designs, and one sweatshirt design. One mug, one or two posters. 8 or 9 items in all. Cheers, Dave. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: U of T Computer Science Student Union
Eh, indeed I was approached with the original request for marketing materials and I think I sent them towards Stormy and the list. I'd be happy to attend campus events, sure. behdad On 09/08/2009 10:21 PM, Clare So wrote: Behdad lives in Toronto. Ryan lives *near* Toronto. I have included both individuals in this email. There may be other GNOME ethusiasts who live in Toronto. Just my two cents. Clare On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Anybody in the Toronto area want to check this out? (I'm thinking it would make more sense to attend than to just give them stuff to hand out.) Stormy -- Forwarded message -- From:rohan.chan...@utoronto.ca Date: Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM Subject: U of T Computer Science Student Union To: sto...@gnome.org Hi Stormy Peters, I am a representative of the Computer Science Student Union at the University of Toronto. The CSSU is responsible for representing the greater interests of the computer science student body at the University of Toronto. As such we at the CSSU would like to inquire about your interest in providing promotional materials for your company at a CSSU student event. These promotional materials would be items, such as branded pens, stickers, disks with trial/opensource versions of software, that can be used to create awareness of your company within the student populace. We would then distribute these items at student events, such as first year orientation, to the students in attendance. We have found that companies in the past who have provided us with these kinds of materials have profited greatly from the level of attention they receive from the students in a manner they may not have been able to receive otherwise. Many companies have commented on how difficult it can be to create a presence at the university due to the restricitions imposed and processing normally required by the university in order to distribute materials on campus, but as an organization of our nature we are able to bypass most of these difficulties. If you are interested in providing your own promotional materials at a CSSU student event or require more details please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you, Rohan Chandra External Liaison Computer Science Student Union University of Toronto -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Exploiting the Nokia N900 release
On 08/28/2009 01:58 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Hi, With the imminent release of the Nokia N900 GNOME technologies will be deployed widely in the mobile arena. Maybe the GNOME foundation should issue a press release. Or we should think of other ways to exploit the news. Maybe show an article + image on the front page of the GNOME website? Also like new releases of Ubuntu, Fedora etc with new GNOME releases could be listed. Or maybe computer vendors such as system76 release a new notebook with GNOME on it. Now I think of it we could maybe have some section called Powered by GNOME Technologies Feedback, more ideas? Would be good to figure out how much GNOME it is before doing that? behdad Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Exploiting the Nokia N900 release
On 08/28/2009 02:38 PM, Brian Cameron wrote: Behdad: Unless this is confidential information, why not raise this issue on the GNOME marketing list. They are probably the best at thinking of ways to exploit news. Humm, aren't we on marketing-list already? behdad Perhaps this would be good to hype on: http://www.gnome.org/mobile/ for example. Brian Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On 08/28/2009 01:58 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Hi, With the imminent release of the Nokia N900 GNOME technologies will be deployed widely in the mobile arena. Maybe the GNOME foundation should issue a press release. Or we should think of other ways to exploit the news. Maybe show an article + image on the front page of the GNOME website? Also like new releases of Ubuntu, Fedora etc with new GNOME releases could be listed. Or maybe computer vendors such as system76 release a new notebook with GNOME on it. Now I think of it we could maybe have some section called Powered by GNOME Technologies Feedback, more ideas? Would be good to figure out how much GNOME it is before doing that? behdad Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Please welcome Denise Walters to GNOME Marketing
On 08/07/2009 08:50 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: GNOME Marketing team, I'd like to introduce a new member to the group. Denise Walters is a friend of mine who worked with me at HP. She worked on the Linux and Open Source Marketing team there and before that she wrote technical documentation. She has 10 years of experience documenting Debian and commercial distributions to meet HP customer needs. Denis is looking to contribute a bit more to the open source world and has agreed to start with GNOME marketing! In particular she's interested in working on the customer success stories that Guy proposed at the marketing BOF, but I'm sure her feedback will be valuable on a number of things we discuss. Please welcome, Denise! Welcome Denise! Feel at home already. Let any of us know if you need any help. behdad Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GUADEC coverage
Hi, I got asked by a couple of people. Is anyone on the marketing team working on doing any post-event coverage of GUADEC/GCDS? behdad -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friend of GNOME Amazon store
On 07/06/2009 06:45 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Another idea could be to open Friend of GNOME amazon store. I've made one as an example on http://gnome.haitsma.org/friends/amazon/ If we motivate people to use that store to buy their books, dvds, computers etc. the foundation can also raise significant money. Interesting. behdad What do you think of this? Jaap [1] https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/agreement?ie=UTF8pf_rd_t=501ref_=amb_link_84018271_6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_p=pf_rd_s=assoc-right-1pf_rd_r=pf_rd_i=assoc_join_menu [2] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2009-July/msg2.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Special Philanthropist thingy
Hi, What do people responsible for FoG website think about updating it to reflect the prize we have now for the next Philanthropist donation? http://mces.blogspot.com/2009/06/love-gnome-show-your-support.html behdad -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Jumping on the AdBard bandwagon
On 06/03/2009 09:44 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: I think the ad offer will be attractive to large companies looking to hire OSS developers or influence their purchasing decisions. Yeah. I'm interested to see how much goes to the website owners. Good Q. Maybe we can casually ask them? I think they'll be able to attract plenty of OSS developers blogs to advertise on. Behdad, are you thinking GNOME should consider being a part of it? I think Planet GNOME would be exactly the type of readership they'd be hoping to hit. I'm not sure. But *if* we end up adding ads to our pages, AdBard sounds like should be it. Perhaps we can wait and see what comes out of it first. On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Claus Schwarm clschw...@googlemail.com I think the offer is bad. We've just made something similar in a month, without being required to pay US$ 1000/month (even if it's 75% off now). I was asking whether we should sell them ad space on, say, p.g.o, not paying them to advertise us. behdad Best regards, Claus On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 22:07 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Hi list, What's everyone's thoughts on the new AdBard [1] thing? Cheers, behdad [1] http://adbard.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Promoting the Support GNOME badges
Yes, I'm working on it. On 06/02/2009 11:59 AM, Paul Cutler wrote: Behdad - did you still want to blog the Friends of GNOME update? I think Stormy mentioned she posted some data as well. Thanks. Paul On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se mailto:nisses.m...@home.se wrote: I'll grab June 15th! This means: May 18th - Stormy May 25th - Lucas Jun 1st - Behdad Jun 8th - Paul Jun 15th- Andreas Jun 22nd - - Andreas Paul Cutler wrote: I'll take June 1st or 8th, whatever's next. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org mailto:beh...@behdad.org mailto:beh...@behdad.org mailto:beh...@behdad.org wrote: /me likes carrots! On 05/21/2009 09:17 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: Thanks! Here's a carrot to whoever wants week June 1st ... I'll put together the data from May and it should be really good. You can include a graph or two in your post ... Stormy On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Lucas Rocha luc...@gnome.org mailto:luc...@gnome.org mailto:luc...@gnome.org mailto:luc...@gnome.org mailto:luc...@gnome.org mailto:luc...@gnome.org mailto:luc...@gnome.org mailto:luc...@gnome.org wrote: Heya, 2009/5/18 Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org: We should make a calendar and have people regularly blog about Friends of GNOME. The week of: May 18th - Stormy May 25th - Lucas Jun 1st - Jun 8th - Jun 15th- Jun 22nd I already have a draft :-) Cheers! --lucasr -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Jumping on the AdBard bandwagon
Hi list, What's everyone's thoughts on the new AdBard [1] thing? Cheers, behdad [1] http://adbard.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Hackerthreads, any success?
Hi, I tried ordering GNOME stuff from hackerthreads again tonight, still doesn't seem to work. When I select a size, it says This item is not available, please change your selection. Anyone has had any success with ordering anything from them? Cheers, behdad -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Google Adsense versus Adwords
+1 from me too. I did this once before. Not rocket science :). behdad On 05/24/2009 09:10 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: When I asked Google about an adsense account (which enables you to put Google ads on your website and get compensated for them) they mentioned the AdWords grant program to me. AdWords lets you advertise your site via google ads on other people's sites, including Google Search. The AdWords grant program offers free AdWords accounts to nonprofits: (You get a daily budget of $329.) http://www.google.com/grants/ However, you can't have an AdSense account too. Since we are conflicted about ads, and much more likely to reach agreement on specific company ads than general google ads, I recommend we apply for a Google AdWords grant. If we get it, is there anyone with experience in AdWords, SEO or advertising that would like to help run it? (The application itself requires just a few things like target audience and sample campaign slogans that we'd need to think about.) Thoughts? All for applying for a free AdWords account? Stormy On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I agree that if it's even a percentage of that, it might be worth it. What would people think of trying it out for a couple of months? We could start with Google ads to see how well ads work and once we have an idea of how much to expect, we could solicit ads directly from companies. One important thing to bear in mind (and I'm digging into second-hand memory banks here) is whether this would affect our relationship with the various companies who donate bandwidth hosting services. I don't think OSU OSL has any issue with this, but IIRC, hosting in Red Hat's colo had a no ads condition attached. Worth investigating, at least - if we end up with $150K advertising revenues a year and an extra $300K hosting costs to pay, it would be a bad deal. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org mailto:dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Promoting the Support GNOME badges
/me likes carrots! On 05/21/2009 09:17 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: Thanks! Here's a carrot to whoever wants week June 1st ... I'll put together the data from May and it should be really good. You can include a graph or two in your post ... Stormy On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Lucas Rocha luc...@gnome.org mailto:luc...@gnome.org wrote: Heya, 2009/5/18 Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org: We should make a calendar and have people regularly blog about Friends of GNOME. The week of: May 18th - Stormy May 25th - Lucas Jun 1st - Jun 8th - Jun 15th- Jun 22nd I already have a draft :-) Cheers! --lucasr -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Video Contest (WAS: Re: New Project: GNOME YouTube Video Contest)
On 05/11/2009 11:51 AM, Paul Cutler wrote: Is there any opportunity to film some video at GUADEC? Glynn had the idea before, but didn't get the time to do it. Mirco did some at the GTK+ Hackfest in March 2008, but he's yet to edit those and publish them. So finding someone with more time to spend on it will definitely be useful. But yes, it's a great idea. While talking about video ads, YouTube's running this program: http://www.youtube.com/canneslions behdad I don't necessarily know what we'd use it for (GNOME 3.0 launch?), but what if we had a camcorder setup and invited people to stop by and answer 3 questions into the camera: 1. What do you love about GNOME? 2. What does GNOME mean to you? And something else, I don't know, I'm just brainstorming. It just seems like a unique opportunity to at least get some footage, and we can figure out what to do with it later. (Make individual videos? One big one?) Paul On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org wrote: This conference might be a good place to find like minded people and get good suggestions on how to capture, collect and host open video. Or to find the right people to get a good project started ... http://openvideoconference.org/ Stormy On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@spiritone.com mailto:s...@spiritone.com wrote: Yeah, I don't think we are going to use it. I personally should since we're trying to grow market share and restricting ourselves to a portion of the web that is already drinking the koolaid so to speak seems silly. However, that said, we can use this site: http://en.theorasea.org/ The site seems a little slow. I seem to recall that google video is also a decent place that takes ogg. sri On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 04:10:42PM -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: On 3/18/09, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org wrote: Who can help get a website set up to accept and display videos? Perhaps asking Linux Foundation to share their code or give us a 'channel'? We are not using YouTube (I think I recall something against it)? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org mailto:marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Putting ads on GNOME websites
On 05/05/2009 05:15 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org mailto:beh...@behdad.org wrote: On 05/05/2009 05:05 PM, Stormy Peters wrote: I agree that if it's even a percentage of that, it might be worth it. What would people think of trying it out for a couple of months? We could start with Google ads to see how well ads work and once we have an idea of how much to expect, we could solicit ads directly from companies. It's one of those holes I don't think we want to get down into. But I don't have strong reasons for, other than sanity. It just feels bad IMO... $145,000 would pay for a lot of hackfests ... if we sold ads directly to companies, we could control who was advertising. And if we are getting that much potentially paying traffic, we should have a nice, obvious link to Friends of GNOME on the home page, contribute and support page! Back to lets advertise ourselves, ruler and stuff? :) behdad Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pages
On 05/04/2009 07:17 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: If not, lets go for Google. I want the data now. :) These kind of decisions to use non-Free Software services have always backfired in the past. Though most of the times without a clear alternative proposal that considers the volunteer time required. behdad -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: new foundation website layout
On 03/24/2009 04:09 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Can we do a Mediawiki install on gnome.org or something? +1 for MediaWiki. That would take considerable sysadmin resources though. I'll write to infra list to see what we can get. behdad -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME badges or banners
Stormy Peters wrote: We're getting close to launching our new Friends of GNOME website. I was wondering what people would think of having some Friends of GNOME badges or banners that people could put on their personal website. Assuming it was cool, I would put one on my blog. Oh yeah, that would rock! Any volunteers to create one? Use the GNOME Love logo please! behdad http://live.gnome.org/BrandGuidelines Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [Fwd: Gtk/Cairo in real life: Ultrasound System from South of France]
Davyd Madeley wrote: Distributions and Devices While at that, to incorporate the idea that many (most?) people just check out the photos and read their captions when browsing an annual report, I was thinking that maybe we can do a photostrip (four small photos/shots in a row) for each distro/device, with a two/three line caption. behdad This begs the question, what GNOME-based devices officially launched in '08? --d On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 15:13 +, Lucas Rocha wrote: Hi Stormy, 2008/12/3 Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I definitely think we should put it in the annual report. Agree. Not sure it should be a full article about it. Maybe I good way to include it is in the now called 2008 in Distributions article (could be renamed to something more general) which will be written by Davyd (cc'ing him now). --lucasr On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: This is kind of cool. Although I find it strange that nobody responded to this. I've not been following my GNOME mail due to school.. otherwise I would have. Indeed - it's very cool, and I have referred to this on a number of occasions as a very cool example of the GNOME platform in use in a vertical application - mostly on GNOME Mobile. I think we should also get a story from them, and put it either in the GNOME Journal or in the annual report. Or both! Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Cultural Issue with the Foot Logo
Thilo Pfennig wrote: Hi Dave, Dave wrote: Which countries? Besides Thailand and Nepal due to the material online I would add: Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Quatar, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United, Arab Emirates and also Pakistan, Afghanistan and other muslim countries maybe those with +50% muslim population: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Muslim_world_map.png Really? Definitely not in Iran. And not in Turkey as far as the GUADEC experience could tell. How did you decide it's offensive in Islamic countries? behdad When abandoning a logo, you are in essence saying that it has no value to you. In my view its rather the question of why a worldwide project that committed itself to internationalization would want to offend parts of the world. To do this without knowing to do so is acceptable and understandable - but if iobe becomes aware of a problem the question is why one wants to keep offending people. What was formerly unconciously is than conciously. I think my view is very different from yours. You are trying to defend a logo, which has served GNOME for many years. I rather look at what offends people and therefore holds back GNOME in many countries and would suggest to change what offends. Both views are possible, but a compromise is needed. The real question is how much harm the current GNOME logo does in relation to the benefit for keeping it. My view is that if the GNOME logo will keep some countries from even looking at GNOME as a viable desktop alternative than it does great harm to the whole project if the goal is to be acceptable in every country. There are things that GNOME will never fix, such as becoming closed source for people who are offended by open source - but there are things that are not essential to the core GNOME like a logo, documentation,... which can be changed if it seems wise to do so. I would recommend to think over the conception of why should it be a problem if I dont have a problem with it? Thats the wrong approach - the better question is Why should one offend people if this is not what the project is about? If one decides to do it conciously then one has to bear the consequences. A compromise could be that the Foundation does a real evaluation about the extend of the problem. I think by just asking of the list one might not get good answers because those who are offended by GNOME would not subscribe here ;-). Its not always about better software, or better documentation, sometimes its about how to interact and communicate that makes the difference. Regards, Thilo -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: www.gnome.org
Murray Cumming wrote: I mean, if someone changed some text on a web page, I want to see that change, just like we do now in svn or the wiki. That's also necessary to keep translations up-to-date. Oh, I see. Yes, being able to monitor all changes is pretty important. behdad -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: www.gnome.org
Thilo Pfennig wrote: Its frustrating that nothing happens on WGO. It certainly is. The problem is not all the bugs or shortcomings of the website. The problem is the organization. I also dont think that a technical new solution like Plone will magically remove all organizational problems. Its easy to see bugs on web pages but if those are not fixed the problem lies deeper. I completely agree. And judging based on how long it has taken, I'm tending to thin the Plone system will bring in more problems than it will solve. Concrete suggestions: Find somebody who will be the primary webmaster (in a responsible sense, not so much technical) and find somebody who is officially coordinating marketing efforts. There are many cooks but you can never depend on anything that is said right now. Intransparency kills involvement. It's easy to say so, it's impossible to find that one person. I have a different approach to the solution: Lets install a readily available CMS, like Joomla, plug it into our existing LDAP account system, make it easy for everyone with commit access to create a web password and edit. Then we can mobilize the hundreds of our volunteers to keep the website up to date instead of looking for The One. behdad Regards, Thilo -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: www.gnome.org
Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm not sure this would be any different to what you have with Plone: it's a readily available CMS, it can connect to your LDAP account system, you can let let anyone create a password and edit pages. Fair enough. The problem seems to be that no-one is actually doing the work to get it up to a live site. I saw the current state of play at the Plone Conference and it looks tantalisingly close. However, unless someone actually has the time, power and interest to put it on a live server and turn the key so that it actually becomes www.gnome.org, then it's always going to be nearly done, as it has been for over a year. Indeed. I see a few people here trying to make it happen, and I hope those people *will* make it happen. Respectfully, I think that starting from scratch with a new technology stack right now would cost you another 6-12 months of re-work unless you suddenly find a lot of dedicated people with the time, power and interest to make this happen. I have been thinking about starting to set up a Joomla installation and play with it myself. I can't say I feel comfortable enough to do that with Plone. So we have two options: * Wait another year or two and hope the Plone thing happens, * Start experimenting with other things, if they make it faster, so be it. I probably go dig the requirements discussions from two years ago and start playing with Joomla. That said, no changes in the Plone plan needed. Cheers, behdad Cheers, Martin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME update
Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 07:34:28PM -0400, Luis Villa wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, John asked about click through data - do we have any analytics type data for GNOME pages? You might try asking the sysadmins; we don't have any that I know of. (Making sure the privacy policy allows this is one of my priorities this week.) Various sites have a /stats/ webalizer setup. This was announced at least a year ago. Anyone else noticed that we've been consistently losing traffic over the past year: http://www.gnome.org/stats/ What makes me worry more is that there doesn't seem to be any bumps around the March release either. Thoughts? behdad -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Weekly News
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 15:10 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Unfortunately, the magazine gets 6 months excusivity on the articles, before I can release them under CC BY-NC-ND. I've asked for permission to get them translated too, since in general translations aren't possible with ND. Too bad. That's a huge lot of very good material that is mostly useless after six months. :( -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Weekly News
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 22:07 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: But let me ask, is there really interest in this? We're really more in a maintenance mode here in terms of work here. That's exactly the kind of thinking that I think a weekly or biweekly newsletter can change. Lots happening around GNOME. Not in official GNOME modules maybe (those tend to add incremental updates), but just see how many cool projects people talk about on PGO. Brian already said the rest of what I wanted to say. If you check Fedora Weekly News, each item is a summary plus links to original discussion on mailing list or blogposts. That's quite a different (and less time demanding) format than GNOME Journal. This can be done under the GNOME Journal name, yes. That's not the main issue though. I think Rahul's suggestion may actually quite work. I don't mind write a paragraph about new features going into Pango and Cairo every other week. I'm sure others don't mind doing the same for their project either. Remains an editor to put it all together. Volunteers? -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Weekly News
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 21:19 -0700, Luis Villa wrote: I think you might want to ask Uraeus about that: http://developer.gnome.org/news/ Yeah, exactly that. Luis -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
GNOME Weekly News
Hi, The idea was dropped by Jason on another list. How to get started with a GNOME Weekly News ala Fedora Weekly News [1] and Kernel Traffic [2]? Cheers, behdad [1] http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/Fedora_Weekly_News [2] http://www.kerneltraffic.org/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Weekly News
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 09:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Hi, The idea was dropped by Jason on another list. How to get started with a GNOME Weekly News ala Fedora Weekly News [1] and Kernel Traffic [2]? The Fedora weekly news just like the release notes and other areas of Fedora works by dividing the otherwise considerably large amount of work into beats and then getting writers/editors to cover a particular beat with one master editor working to put together the final content. Sure, I'm afraid I'm missing your point. Planet GNOME has become too noisy to read day to day for those not much involved into GNOME. What if we had a GNOME Weekly News that people could read to follow day-to-day GNOME happenings? I think that has the potential to fill in a gap. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats Rahul -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Manning GNOME booth @ LinuxLive, London Olympia, Oct 23..25
Hi, We got an invitation to exhibit in the .ORG Village 2008 @ LinuxLive [1]. I was wondering who can help run a booth there, and generally pick it up from here. [1] http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/ Cheers, -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Boosting Friends of GNOME in 2008
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 15:48 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: * Send them an email at every release pointing to the release notes * Send them a quarterly/biannual newsletter of the foundation's activities (a text-only email will do) * Solicit donations for specific programs when the need arises * Inform them about the subscription options A one-time mass mail is fine, but for anything even annual, please make sure they either opt in or that it's clear that by their act of donation they will be receiving these, and with clear opt-out instructions. As for the rest of your mail, I agree that one of our main problems is that we don't have resources to spend money where it's needed. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Boosting Friends of GNOME in 2008
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 19:14 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Do we have a list of places where money is needed, with an idea of how much we need? Not really... We know for example that our website infrastructure is lagging, but we are relying on overworked community members to fix it. If we had the resources for driving the task and raise money for it, we could pay someone to do it. All of this may become much more realistic if and when we get that foundation bizdev. My main point was that we need to fundraise for stuff, but fundraising for salary is in general a hard sell. You need to fundraise for the benefits of what the salary will get you. And the more concrete you can make the benefit, the better. I just thought of a great waty of doing this. Let's say you want to hire a sysadmin. You want him to Do Stuff. Say you draw up a rough job description, with a list of 10 things you want him to do (10% of time: ensure email infrastructure is running smoothly, 10% of time: maintenance of VCS, 10% of time: processing new account requests, whatever, I haven't really thought about this). You then make a dollar value for each one - we need $8,000 to keep our email going this year - bang! a good package to fundraise against. Just $10,000 to handle membership request backlog! OK - harder to sell. But you get the idea. You split the salary of the sysadmin across the things he'll do, and you can tell straight away what people are interested in, and what they're not. And if there's no funds coming in against the keep DNS running smoothly package, you can run a campaign against that, highlighting the problems we've had with DNS in the past. Yep. Definitely something the bizdev person can work with the community to drive. Thanks for the ideas. OK, it's not sexy, but you can maybe send donors a picture of a bind process running somewhere? ;) Cheers, Dave. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Boosting Friends of GNOME in 2008
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 23:53 +0300, Lucas Rocha wrote: 3. Prepare a program for long-term donors The idea is to provide ways to easily make monthly donations. We'll provide ways for donating 5, 10, 20 or 50 per month (this might change but that's the general idea) through Paypal. The donor would receive the benefit after the last payment. In other words: - If a person donates 5, 10, or 20 per month, he/she would get a mug - If a person donates 50 per month, he/she would get a t-shirt We could give the benefits in advance but then it could be cancelled just after starting... Thinking about it again, I think we should send the gift up front. It's just so much nicer a message than hey, we don't send you your gift such that you don't cancel, because you know, we don't trust you. And the gift's value is less than one or two monthly payments, so we're not talking about net loss here. 4. Promoting Friends of GNOME After we have everything setup (mugs, t-shirts and long-term donation program), make a nice campaign to get short-term and long-term donors. The equation (in the mug and t-shirt) would be the moto for this campaign. Comments? More ideas? --lucasr [1] http://www.gnome.org/img/flash/gnome-equation.png -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Mug Update
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 16:14 +0200, Lucas Rocha wrote: Some initial ideas: - GNOME Milk (With a white cow full of black GNOME foot marks) - GNOME: the official desktop of happy people (with the usual smiley) - Fuel for GNOME Hacking (Coffee Bean with a GNOME Foot) I'd love to buy all three of them. Please make sure they are available for sale! -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: I helped improve Gnome and all I got...
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 11:10 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: Well. Printing 10 good quality t-shirts in France will be expensive, so I'm not sure it will cost less in the end than printing 500 t-shirts in the US and shipping them... Ok, could be a bit less, but not that much. I was thinking that maybe you can do 100 in France, a 100 in India, a 100 in US, with localized designs, and hand over the next three years... -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: I helped improve Gnome and all I got...
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 17:30 +0100, Benjamin Otte wrote: Hey, I've just had the idea of thanking people that are small contributors with a small present, like giving everyone that submitted a patch in 2007 a t-shirt or anyone that contributed to translations a nice pen. Something that says I contributed to Gnome; something to thank a part of the horde that improves Gnome every day. I know I would have liked something like that in my early hacking days. (I'd still like it today. :)) You could probably also nicely market that with press releases etc. When I suggested that idea on IRC, people liked it and suggested I raise it here. Here it is. Nice idea indeed. We already do that to those donating to GNOME. So, while we may not be able to do for every GNOME contributor, we should definitely do for the more hard-worker ones. Think bugzilla stats, commit stats, translation stats, etc. Any one item (no matter how small) and sending it out costs at least 10 to 15 dollars. I'm sure we can allocate funds for sending out a hundred of them. Someone (you?) should bring a concrete proposal to board for consideration. Cheers, Benjamin Cheers, -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: I helped improve Gnome and all I got...
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 22:53 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Behdad Esfahbod wrote: | Any one item (no matter how small) and sending it out costs at least 10 | to 15 dollars. I'm sure we can allocate funds for sending out a hundred | of them. Someone (you?) should bring a concrete proposal to board for | consideration. Don't send out ... get local GNOME chapters to do this and reimburse expenses. Helps those who are locally to be in the public eye and thus spawn off a rockstar cult Let's have a design ready for T-Shirt, Mugs, Badge whatever - in India I'd have a handful of these to give away and the ones who deserve that would sure appreciate the gesture We've been doing this already. That is, local groups have been doing this already. And board has been paying on a case by case basis. See recent GNOME-FR requests for example. The rest, to have marketing material ready, is up to the marketing team and community. Just send your request to board at least 3 months in advance of your event and chances are quite high that you get the money you asked for. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: I helped improve Gnome and all I got...
On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 06:47 +0530, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Behdad Esfahbod wrote: | We've been doing this already. That is, local groups have been doing | this already. And board has been paying on a case by case basis. See | recent GNOME-FR requests for example. Err no no. What I meant was that instead of shipping stuff from US (unless it is for an US based recognition), how about empowering the local groups to do the swag according to the design and then reimbursing that ? Every 10 USD saved [in shipping] can turn out to be useful. This would also bring the silent (and invisible to community locally ?) contributors to the forefront and get both the local groups and them interacting. Sounds useful. Lets for example start this with one France and India and see how it works. Still someone needs to come up with a proposal and work on it. Anyone? The proposal can be as simple as defining who should get this swag, etc. Thinking about it now, we need to ask for people's physical address before we can send anything, which negates half of the fun. ~sankarshan ps: I do know about the event funding thing (it helped us a lot) :) -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: I helped improve Gnome and all I got...
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 23:09 -0300, Claudio Saavedra wrote: No, it doesn't. The good thing of distributing the duties to the local groups, is that you can delegate that, too. User groups can take care of asking for the physical addresses, making this process more efficient. Claudio Heh, that's true. I'm definitely all for sending *something*, whatever, to all new foundation members. We'll cover old ones somehow sometime... -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Release notes lack a download link
Hi, It was reported to me that the release notes page: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/ Has no link to where the sources can be downloaded! Is there any way to fix that now? Thanks, -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Vote the logo for GNOME Asia Summit -- Deadline is 9th Dec, 2007
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 16:04 +0800, Emily Chen wrote: http://www.gnome-cn.org/gnome-asia-submit/gas-logo-vote/ Remember, no gas. Call it asia-summit for short. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ ...very few phenomena can pull someone out of Deep Hack Mode, with two noted exceptions: being struck by lightning, or worse, your *computer* being struck by lightning. -- Matt Welsh -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: old gnome screenshots
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:31 +0200, Erik Snoeijs wrote: Thanks for the tip (and also Shaun's, great idea :) i love the waybackmachine ) I'll make the presentation and presentation text available after i've written it. And translate it to english. (presentation will be in dutch) I'll totally appreciate it, thanks. In fact, the sooner the better, as I have a GNOME presentation tomorrow (Saturday)! and can use some ideas. Even the Dutch version would be a great help. Doing a larger piece as a video sounds interesting, and i wouldn't mind helping. Do you already have some sort of plan? storyboard? Or is it only in your head yet? All in head. After seeing the youtube video i think if you want to do a similar style, it will be a pretty big task. And that's why it's all in my head. (to have the same kind of ad-hoc editing style) But perhaps you where only referring to the way the video phasing trough time over the web, emphasizing turning point events. Yeah, lets at least do *something*. behdad Erik Snoeijs On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 16:08 -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Hi Erik, I've been thinking about doing something like that for the gnome 10 year anniversary, but didn't find anyone to help. If you have some time, we can work on it as a project for the year end. I was thinking to do something along these lines: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE Also, one can install and run all Red Hat Linux versions in a virtual machine and run old gnome versions in action. Let me know, behdad On 10/1/07, Erik Snoeijs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm making a presentation for softwarefreedomday, but what i would really need are a few old gnome screenshots. pre-1.0 and 1.4-ish. Theme of the presentation is 10 years of gnome, so i need some old stuff, but the web isn't really helping. So if anyone can point me in the right direction i would be very happy. Thanks in advance, Erik Snoeijs -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- behdad http://behdad.org/ -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Minor comments about the release notes draft
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 21:02 +0300, Lucas Rocha wrote: - The Release Notes are available in several languages... This paragraph follows the one ending You can learn more about the changes that happened in GNOME 2.18 from its release notes. It's probably just me, but it would be more clear to replace it with This release notes are available in several languages I didn't get it. What exactly chould be changed? The Release Notes are available - These release notes are available - Evince section doesn't say whether you can save the filled-in PDF files. Any evince maintainer around to confirm? - May want to link Cairo to its website as it's an external module. Also, technically, Cairo should be replaced by cairo graphics library, not capitalized. Trademark policy? Not sure whose trademark policy you mean. This is the way Carl prefers people write it. Murray, what do you think? --lucasr -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Minor comments about the release notes draft
Hi, Was checking out the release notes draft. Minor comments: - Ubuntu Linux is a phrase not used by the Ubuntu project. It should either simply be Ubuntu, or something like Ubuntu GNU/Linux distribution. - Two of the images on the page are particularly large in file size. rnintroduction-screenshot.png is 400kb and rnusers-eog.png is 580kb. They are both very nice, but a bit largish for slower connections. Given that rnintroduction-screenshot.png is visible on the first page of the release notes, it may be worth replacing with something lighter. Given that it's a scaled-down image anyway, makes sense to use a jpg instead that takes 250kb from a quick test here. - The Release Notes are available in several languages... This paragraph follows the one ending You can learn more about the changes that happened in GNOME 2.18 from its release notes. It's probably just me, but it would be more clear to replace it with This release notes are available in several languages - Evince section doesn't say whether you can save the filled-in PDF files. - May want to link Cairo to its website as it's an external module. Also, technically, Cairo should be replaced by cairo graphics library, not capitalized. Thanks for the work, it looks awesome! -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: PseudOT: GNOME 1.4 splash
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 21:46 -0500, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: On 8/21/07, Quim Gil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That one, yes. Luca, you were almost as fast as Tuomas (via IM). :) Thanks! I'm writing few lines about it, since it was my first GNOME impression: It was love at a first glance. In fact I got seduced even before stepping in the desktop itself. That GDM splash with some old houses had character, it was totally disruptive with any boot screen I had seen before. Whoa, time-travelling. I recall that when I first used redhat 7.2 I also liked GNOME's look, still I don't know why... I recall something with a lighthouse, I think it was the splash screen also. Anybody knows where can I find that one? Is my memory ok? I remember the lighthouse thing too... Also around redhat 7.2 I remember logging into GNOME and finding only a couple of items in the panel and a feeling of what do I do now?. I installed KDE then and it was a lot more inviting, and I started hacking on Qt to fix its problems rendering Persian... However with redhat 7.3 and 8 came the Bluecurve theme, and GNOME 2 too, that was totally different and usable. Don't exactly remember how it happened, next thing I remember I was submitting Pango patches to bugzilla... Jrb told me that almost all Red Hat versions can be installed inside a virtual machine on RHEL-5 / Fedora. One should do that and take lots of shots of different GNOME versions and features, then we can create a video showcasing the evolution of GNOME since 0.1... -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Joint GNOME and KDE statement out of DAM
Thanks Jonathan. I look pretty uncontroversial as you said. Ok with me. behdad On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 16:32 -0400, Jonathan Blandford wrote: Hey, Greg is interested in putting out a press statement as a result of the DAM meeting. It seems pretty darned uncontroversial to me, but I thought I'd let people know that it's happening: Both KDE4 and GNOME are committed to D-BUS and a common set of interfaces for Desktop Services Anyone object? Also, just so people know, there's going to be a press release saying that we discussed the following: Packaging Dev Tools Multimedia Printing KDE/GNOME (DBus) and we wanted to talk about power and fonts, but didn't have the right people there. Thanks, -Jonathan -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: About The GNOME Mobile Embedded Initative
On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 09:45 +0100, Joachim wrote: This latest announcement seems to have come from quite high up in Gnome -- Foundation board members are involved in it, I would image. If even they can't be bothered to at least include the marketing team in the loop, what hope is there? Note that, that foundation members (Jeff only in fact) were involved in it doesn't mean it was a board project, which it was not. All I knew before was the name. And I don't know much after either, cause as much as I've been involved in the community (cairo list, performance-list, Gtk+ lists, and Planet), I knew mostly all of the announcement already: that all these companies are focusing on using GNOME platform in embedded devices. As for including marketing team, as it was already said multiple times, it couldn't be discussed publicly for obvious reasons. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: About The GNOME Mobile Embedded Initative
On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 12:27 +0200, Thilo Pfennig wrote: On 4/21/07, Sriram Ramkrishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 03:19:48PM +0200, Thilo Pfennig wrote: c) In relation to that i fear that this binds ressources that otherwise would have been there for the core desktop. The people doing embedded GUI are already captured resources and are now being paid to work on GNOME whether embedded or otherwise. Ok, thats a ood point. But still it is a switch in focus, isn't it? Not at all. What is our focus in the first place? What is GNOME anyway? I see the following answers: - 10x10. OLPC and embedded are the only feasible way we can make 10x10 in what is less than three years.. Most desktop users have an OS already... - GNOME is two things: the platform and the desktop. We win by the platform is good enough that ISVs start developing on it, not by making the desktop Rock so hard. If people can't run software they want on it, they will not use it. GMAE is exactly pushing the platform further. If you notice, the companies involved in GMAE have at least four different platforms for application development on top of the GNOME platform. So this is not about developing apps for mobile devices. It's about where GNOME and the embedded companies meet: the GNOME platform. - And who said the focus of the GNOME desktop is desktop computers anyway?! If in ten years nobody uses what we call desktop/laptop today, is GNOME deprecated? Of course not. The world is moving toward smaller devices. Even if it was a switch of focus, that's not a problem. Like others said in the thread, in GNOME, and in most OpenSource projects, marketing follows development, not the other way around. And btw, the embedded companies have put lots of new blood in cairo development. That can't be bad. Same about Gtk+. I understand that no every project can be talked about publically but the question is if such a major step should not be discussed inside a broader part of the public. I do not mean the details of the deal but about the changes that are implied. Ok, if all will follow (developers and users) this will work. But if not we would have a deal that does not work. Ok maybe I am being too sceptical. And what is that major step anyway? Putting a name to an ongoing effort. Seriously, this event was more about publicity than any change withing GNOME. And isn't in fact, the fact that it's got a name, the very proof that GNOME as a whole is not changing focus? It's GMAE, not GNOME! Gmae Maybe wAs gnomE, not anymore :-P. The thing about focus is difficult. Web applications are also part of the desktop - but is currently not really on our focus. That's in fact emerging too. And that's got a name too. GNOME Online Desktop (GOD). So question is: Does GNOME just go where the money is or does GNOME have a vision? These are point that should not be excluding each other, but I think its important to know how things are moving or are decided. GNOME goes where its members go. Anything else will not be GNOME. Look around. See who all these GNOME people you interact with work for. I think we had lengthy discussions in the past how GNOME marketing should be and also we talked about who we should talk to. As it comes out it looks like the REAL marketing has not much todo with what we discussed. That said I dont think that this is generally bad. But I think our discussions and what we do should reflect each other. If I look at GnomeMarketing page this does not reflect our new focus. I do not see embedded hardware vendors as a primary target group. This means that we did not see this coming? Or maybe it just means that those who saw it never entered any informations about it. This makes any marketing discussion based on old goals and assumptions senseless and shallow. No. We still want that Desktop of Happy People poster. We will also produce GMAE posters. Nothing changed. New stuff added. Thilo -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: About The GNOME Mobile Embedded Initative
On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 15:23 +0200, Thilo Pfennig wrote: On 4/22/07, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. We still want that Desktop of Happy People poster. We will also produce GMAE posters. Nothing changed. New stuff added. So what you are saying is marketing IS promotion. I thought we had consensus that it is NOT? (See also John Williams explanation of what marketing is or should be. on http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing ) I was speaking figuratively. What marketing is or is not is well beyond me. Thilo -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: .org Pavilion Call for Papers Now Open
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 20:32 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Great idea :) Do you want to contact them? Some other candidates (who have previously represented GNOME as volunteers): Eitan Jacobsen, Brad Johnson, Billy Briggs, Ben Konrath, Sri Ramkrishna, and I'm sure I am missing several other obvious names too. I'll do. Billy has been sucked into Googleplex and not showing any signs of life... Ben used to be in Canada and is Japan right now. Sri! Why do *I* have to do this while you are out there in the US?! What a shame :). -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: OLPC Succees case, first draft
Nit: Shouldn't the One Laptop Per Children be One Laptop Per Child? Cheers, behdad On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 23:44 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: Hi marketing-list. Jeduan has sent a first draft of the OLPC sucess story: http://gnome.jardigrec.eu/en/success-stories/one-laptop-per-child/ Suggestions for improvement welcome. I still have to upload the images he sent. Please keep Jeduan CCed. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: North America Event Box needed for Eclipse Con on March 5-7th
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 09:07 -0500, Ben Konrath wrote: Hi all, I just sent Rosanna the address to send the box so if everyone agrees that we can use the box, we should be good to go from my end. The board decided to ship the box. Rosanna will be in contact with you about the shipment. behdad Thanks, Ben On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 18:09 -0500, Rosanna Yuen wrote: Hi, In order to get the box there in time, I would need to schedule the pickup tomorrow for shipment on Friday. After that, the price doubles. Any decisions need to be made quickly. Thanks, Rosanna On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 22:39 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Ben, Ben Konrath wrote: I'm helping to coordinate the GNOME Booth at Eclipse Con again this year and I would like to know how I can request the North American Event Box. I would need the box from March 5 - 7th. Any help would be appreciated. Just putting the board in the loop - you don't have to do anything else to request the box. We'll let you know ASAP about the box. In the meantime, can you send in a name address for a recipient for the box, please? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Suggestion. GNOME Feedback Form
On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 11:12 +1300, John Williams wrote: Let's do this, but let's not kid ourselves as to the value of the data. I can see us putting it in press releases and feeding to journalists, but not much else. I'm more concerned about the bias of any data gathered from the gnome.org front page. What will this say: 90% of users who voted on gnome.org have at least one GNOME installation.? Not much. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Showing off the N800 on the gnome.org frontpage?
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 10:00 -0800, Eitan Isaacson wrote: Maybe we could generalize this concept and create banners with GNOME deployments in general. We could do a set like: * Extremadura and Andalucía school districts (spain) * N800 * Sao Paulo telecenters * openmoko when it arrives * Largo, Florida's police force * etc. The banner will randomly rotate with each visit. Besides sleek devices we could show cute kids and real life deployments. My 2c. Don't forget the olpc. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Because you have better stuff to do than fixing your computer
On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 18:39 -0400, Andreas Nilsson wrote: So, I thought this theme might be cool for a poster or a campaign. If people don't like it, I'll put it on my wall above my desk to remind me why I'm a GNOME developer instead. I'm currently trying to come up with a list of stuff that I have to do on my girlfriends system that I don't need to do on mine. Hopefully the rest of you can come up with a thing or two yourself. Let's do some brainstorming people! I would add configuring. -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill -- Dan Bern, New American Language -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 11:25 -0400, Guilherme de S. Pastore wrote: Il giorno sab, 08/07/2006 alle 00.06 +1000, Jeff Waugh ha scritto: I think a worthwhile rule for this entire process should be: No criticism without solution. So please explain your point of view so it can be taken seriously, and offer a solution to go with it so you're also moving things forward. Any strong reason that MediaWiki doesn't work? behdad I am not much into this CMS thing, so I regret not being able to suggest something absolutely certain of its capabilities and advantages. However, I've already seen and faced all kinds of problems with drupal, from security to upgradability issues, which IMHO do not make it the best option to set the infrastructure of a website we want to keep around for long on. And I did not make it clearer because I've already exposed this concern to qgil in the process of setting up drupal for guadec.org. Cheers, -- Guilherme de S. Pastore fatalerror -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill -- Dan Bern, New American Language -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: wgo revamp timeline (proposal)
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 21:28 +0200, Christian Rose wrote: (Please keep marketing-list cc:ed) /me blames evo Ideally, there should be a minimum of efforts required to translate www.gnome.org -- if translating or enabling a particular translation requires sysadmin intervention, we simply won't have much (current) translated content at all. Honestly I'm not really sure having translated website is such a good idea. What I think is good though is having per-language corners, better clearly separated through the URL (fa.gnome.org or gnome.org/fa for example. The latter is easier.) and let the language team publish their own content there, instead of trying to catch up translations of a moving target. Of course, things like press releases or announcements are and will be translated. We've reiterated this localized content discussion over and over for several years, and the consensus has always been that official content on www.gnome.org should have translations, while localized content provided by local communities belong on other local community sites. There are any number of reasons for this decision. The most recent time this was reiterated was on GUADEC. Understood. Is there something in particular about this decision that you dislike? My only problem is that a local community cannot easily register and host a domain name without a single point-of-failure/bottleneck, so, as long as we are offering communities some local space, I'm fine with that. Christian -- behdad http://behdad.org/ Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill -- Dan Bern, New American Language -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: [guadec-list] Re: GUADEC Printed program content
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Andre Klapper wrote:
hi,
Am Sonntag, den 16.04.2006, 18:30 -0400 schrieb Behdad Esfahbod:
The program really should be around A5, or nobody will carry it
around and it loses its point.
right, i will be unable to take out my A3 journal and take a look at the
upcoming stuff without disturbing people sitting next to me.
There are lots of interesting ideas, for example, list Top lists
of various activities during the past year. Top bug fixer /
opener / patch submitter / committer / mailing list poster /
These things can be easily extracted if you contact the
right people.
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/bugsquad/statistics/2005/ provides
some of that info.
Right, but we need guadec-to-guadec stats :)
cheers,
andre
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Re: release notes: first draft
Oops. Forgot to CC lists. On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: Neat job. In front page: free software = Free Software Users - Performance: font rendering = text rendering (we did not optimizing the actual drawing at all, just the text layout...) the entire dictionary = an entire English word list / an entire dictionary Developers: Developer's Platform = Developers' Platform Cheers, behdad On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Davyd Madeley wrote: Ok guys and gals. I am announcing a preliminary draft of the release notes for 2.14. We now require proof readers for spelling, grammar and technical correctness. The latest committed version is online at: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/C/index.html You can also check out the release notes from CVS: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnomeweb-wml/www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/docbook/C/ We are using gnome-doc-utils for translation. I hope the translators know how to get all of that working, because I have no idea. Warning, I AM AN AUSTRALIAN, SPELLINGS MAY BE CONSIDERED INCORRECT. My grammar is also pretty appalling. Please send through corrections for these. Feel free to correct minor spelling mistakes yourself. Discussion should happen on list as appropriate or on the IRC channel #release-notes on irc.gnome.org. Addendum: - If anyone knows the status of the LiveCD, that section requires updating. - Danilo was meant to be providing the i18n stats page, he said he added it, but I can't see where. - Does anyone want to take charge on writing a press release? I am willing to raise my hand again if so required. --behdad http://behdad.org/ Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill -- Dan Bern, New American Language --behdad http://behdad.org/ Commandment Three says Do Not Kill, Amendment Two says Blood Will Spill -- Dan Bern, New American Language -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
