Re: New design Live Gnome

[Elena Petrevska]

Hello Tom,

I am really thankful for your contribution for live_gnome.
In the mean time, I also did  one mockup that looks like this [1]. It 
seems that both, mine and yours have similar ideas, with some things 
altered.


We will try to incorporate both of them into one amazing mockup and site.
Thanks again,
Elena

[1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/dhpskxsxujzwqk3/wikilayoutnew2.png

On 07/18/2012 04:01 AM, Tom Tryfonidis wrote:

Hello Elena,

I found this repo here [1] and I created a mockup based on this [2].
Here is how it looks like http://i.imgur.com/6w9d3.png and here is the 
svg file [3]


Tom


[1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-src/tree/mockups
[2] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-src/plain/mockups/mockup-wiki.png
[3] https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hu5uqtga8hh7tf/mockup-wiki.svg



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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:53:13 +0200
From: Elena Petrevska
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Hello to everyone,

I wanted to ask if some of you knows if build.gnome.org is still in a
function. I tried loading it and it was unavailable.

Thanks,
Elena


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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:43:44 +0200
From: Pi?eiro
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CCing build-brigade as is the one in theory taking care of build.gnome.org

On 06/22/2012 06:53 AM, Elena Petrevska wrote:

I wanted to ask if some of you knows if build.gnome.org is still in a
function. I tried loading it and it was unavailable.



Hi thanks for the ping.

The buildmaster was down. I tried to start this again (buildmaster user
at fixed.gnome.org, make start), but the page is still down.

Looking at the log, I see this error:

2012-06-22 10:29:43+ [-] loading configuration from
/usr/local/buildmaster/gnome/config/master.cfg
2012-06-22 10:29:43+ [-] error during loadConfig
2012-06-22 10:29:43+ [-] Unhandled Error
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File
"/usr/local/buildmaster/gnome/work/bin/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/twisted/scripts/_twistd_unix.py",
line 317, in startApplication
 app.startApplication(application, not self.config['no_save'])
   File
"/usr/local/buildmaster/gnome/work/bin/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/twisted/application/app.py",
line 713, in startApplication
 service.IService(application).startService()
   File
"/usr/local/buildmaster/gnome/work/bin/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/twisted/application/service.py",
line 278, in startService
 service.startService()
   File
"/usr/local/buildmaster/gnome/work/bin/lib/python2.4/site-packages/buildbot/master.py",
line 432, in startService
 self.loadTheConfigFile()
 ---  ---
   File
"/usr/local/buildmaster/gnome/work/bin/lib/python2.4/site-packages/buildbot/master.py",
line 488, in loadTheConfigFile
 self.loadConfig(f)
   File
"/usr/local/buildmaster/sources/jhbuild/jhbuild/commands/bot.py", line
357, in loadConfig
 jhbuild_config.load()
 exceptions.TypeError: load() takes exactly 2 arguments (1 given)

A lot of time passed since the last time I started again the master. Am
I doing something wrong?

BR


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build.gnome.org

[Elena Petrevska]

Hello to everyone,

I wanted to ask if some of you knows if build.gnome.org is still in a 
function. I tried loading it and it was unavailable.


Thanks,
Elena
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Re: New design Live Gnome

[Elena Petrevska]

Hello Christy,

Unfortunately, I did not receive the mockup. I saw it now, and it is 
really fine for me if I am constructing this one; still , it is a choice 
we all need to agree on. On the other side, I would really like to 
include a little bit more elements if possible. The website should be 
practical as I understood, so maybe one more block of elements will be 
appropriate.


We may discuss on the #marketing channel, whenever you have time.

Thanks,
Elena


On 06/10/2012 03:37 AM, Christy Eller wrote:

Elena-

Did you get the quick mockup that Andreas did yesterday? He and I 
discussed the layout and navigation yesterday on IRC. We want to keep 
it very simple.


http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/wikilayout.png   or an svg here, 
which would be editable in inkscape:

http://andreasn.myownb3.com/temp/wikilayout.svg

There were a few changes we talked about making to this mockup. One 
was to add Sitemap to the top nav. Also, for styling, add the html bg 
file that I sent you recently (not the watercolor bg), add the footer 
called community.png that I'm attaching here, and make a new logo for 
live.gnome.org <http://live.gnome.org/>. I have some ideas for the 
logo if you need help.


Again, the main thing we are trying to get out of this is simplicity, 
ease of use, and the main style elements of wgo- meaning header, 
footer & background. If you try to make too many changes from the 
current theme in moin moin, I think it is going to get very complex 
once you start the implementation.  It primarily needs to be clean and 
useful. Wikis are generally styled very simply, because they are all 
about storing content, rather than marketing:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Main_Page

If you have any questions, or when you have an example, please email 
Andreas or me- or look for us on IRC. It seems like it's been very 
difficult for us to meet up at the same time, so let's set up an IRC 
meeting for Monday if possible. I really appreciate your efforts!


Thank you for your work-
Christy

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Brett Legree <mailto:brett.leg...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Elena,

Glad to lend a hand - certainly, please do take them as suggestions,
since I am not a designer in any way shape or form!

However, I do my best as a UI enthusiast and a cheerleader for people
who *can* design - thanks again,

-Brett

    On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Elena Petrevska
mailto:elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
> Brett, at first, thanks for the encouragement and for the
contribution. I
> will comment as I go through the mail.
>
> On 06/09/2012 07:53 PM, Brett Legree wrote:
>
> Good day Elena,
>
> Just a few more ideas to add to the mix, and sort of build on
what Sri
> suggested.
>
> I attached a GIMP-edited version of your original image (should I
> instead be posting a link to an online site for this? Not sure
of the
> protocol for the mailing list, if I should please let me know).
>
> I actually like the changes a lot. It is not a problem in both
ways, you are
> fine with this method.
>
> As I am new, I am trying to get a feel for the purpose of the
page, so
> I did a bit of cut & paste to try and group things together or make
> things flow a bit. I put Search up at the top right so it is
above the
> fold by default, for new and more experienced users, and I suggested
> moving the User Login part a bit lower in the hierarchy (since
someone
> with a login would be familiar with the page).
>
> You really did some very useful changes. thanks !
>
> I thought it was okay to have Join GNOME at the top (not sure where
> the link goes - to another page with all of them listed, or to the
> bottom of the page where they are spread out?) as well as at the
> bottom, as it would seem logical we want people to join the various
> projects.
>
> Or, we could try to have only one link to each topic, to simplify
> things for both users and coders (just something I picked up in my
> studies of UI/UX, I believe there are 6 or 7 ways to print a
document
> in Microsoft Word, for instance, via shortcut keys, icons etc., some
> of them do the same thing, and some of them do not work exactly the
> same way).
>
> We will talk about this on the mailing list and I will (in the
mean time)
> take care of implementing them in a design.
>
> You could experiment with that spread out list of links to the
> different Teams, perhaps with justified/non-justified arrangement of
> the text, alphabetical ordering maybe, or perhaps some kind of
logical
> arrangement based on what is 

Re: New design Live Gnome

[Elena Petrevska]

Sri, thanks for the comment ! ( I will comment on your mail :) )

On 06/09/2012 07:39 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

Hi Elena!

Some more feedback.  I feel like the page itself is a little busy.  
How about this suggestion - make a single box called workspaces and 
move the team and module maintenance pages into there?  Make another 
box called "Improve GNOME" and then move all the various links at the 
bottom into that?  That will reduce the clutter.
It is one idea making less boxes, and the other decreasing their size 
and freeing some space. We may talk on the #marketing channel and see 
what is the most practical


The boxes themselves use a hard black line as a border, I suggest 
feathering it at the edges so they have a softer look.  I'm sure 
Andreas or someone who understands CSS better than I. :-)



It is a good idea !
Hope the feedback is useful.  Thanks for taking this on!  We really 
need it!



This has to be done. And this time, we will make it :))) Thanks to you !

sri

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Elena Petrevska 
mailto:elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com>> wrote:


ome further changes : http://imgu <http://imgur.com/JHmU8>



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Re: New design Live Gnome

[Elena Petrevska]

Brett, at first, thanks for the encouragement and for the contribution. 
I will comment as I go through the mail.


On 06/09/2012 07:53 PM, Brett Legree wrote:

Good day Elena,

Just a few more ideas to add to the mix, and sort of build on what Sri
suggested.

I attached a GIMP-edited version of your original image (should I
instead be posting a link to an online site for this? Not sure of the
protocol for the mailing list, if I should please let me know).
I actually like the changes a lot. It is not a problem in both ways, you 
are fine with this method.


As I am new, I am trying to get a feel for the purpose of the page, so
I did a bit of cut&  paste to try and group things together or make
things flow a bit. I put Search up at the top right so it is above the
fold by default, for new and more experienced users, and I suggested
moving the User Login part a bit lower in the hierarchy (since someone
with a login would be familiar with the page).

You really did some very useful changes. thanks !

I thought it was okay to have Join GNOME at the top (not sure where
the link goes - to another page with all of them listed, or to the
bottom of the page where they are spread out?) as well as at the
bottom, as it would seem logical we want people to join the various
projects.

Or, we could try to have only one link to each topic, to simplify
things for both users and coders (just something I picked up in my
studies of UI/UX, I believe there are 6 or 7 ways to print a document
in Microsoft Word, for instance, via shortcut keys, icons etc., some
of them do the same thing, and some of them do not work exactly the
same way).
We will talk about this on the mailing list and I will (in the mean 
time) take care of implementing them in a design.

You could experiment with that spread out list of links to the
different Teams, perhaps with justified/non-justified arrangement of
the text, alphabetical ordering maybe, or perhaps some kind of logical
arrangement based on what is most important to the project as a whole
(though I think they are all important - hence the suggestion for
alphabetical ordering).

I will certainly try it.

Anyway, just some suggestions of course and apologies for hacking your
image apart (!) my GIMP-fu is still not as strong as it could be, so
the boxes in my edited copy do not always line up the way they could
or might.

Hope it helps in any case - keep up the good work - Brett

It was very helpful Brett, thanks again !
Elena
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Re: New design Live Gnome

[Elena Petrevska]

Alex,

it will be amazing if you may include more people that may contribute ! 
It will be very useful, because as I said on the blog, More brains are 
better than one :)


Thank you very much !
Elena

On 06/09/2012 07:51 PM, alex diavatis wrote:

Hello,

Are you really gonna change live.gnome.org , or 
is just a wish list item?
If yes, I can post it on our blog, and ask people to sent mockups. We 
have 5-6k unique a day so there is might a chance someone to help Elena.

Small chance but is is still there :)

- alex




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Re: New design Live Gnome

[Elena Petrevska]

Thanks Ali,

I will be glad if you can help with the design. Thanks for the comment.
Still I did some further changes : http://imgur.com/JHmU8
If there is also someone else who wants to assist , you are more than 
welcome.


Elena


On 06/09/2012 10:17 AM, Ali Raza wrote:

Hi Elena

Looks good but i think there is still space for improvement, let my 
know if i can assist.



thanks
Ali

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Elena Petrevska 
mailto:elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello guys,

I finished the mockup for gnome live, and would like to ask you
for a comment. http://imgur.com/vTVfk
Thanks in advance !

Elena



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Fwd: marketing-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 1

[Elena Petrevska]

Good evening again,

I just wanted to note that I changed one more thing, I increased the 
size of some of the text.

You may see it here: http://i.imgur.com/lrDru.png

Thanks again,
Elena

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Subject:marketing-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 1
Date:   Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:21:23 +0200
From:   Elena Petrevska 
To: marketing-list@gnome.org



Good evening to everyone,

As we were discussing on the IRC channel, changes on live.gnome.org , as
well as other websites should be done. The first mockup that I did looks
like this : http://i.imgur.com/TbbqX.png .

I will really appreciate if you tell me your opinion, your suggestions etc.

Have a great night, and thank you.

Elena Petrevska

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marketing-list Digest, Vol 95, Issue 1

[Elena Petrevska]

Good evening to everyone,

As we were discussing on the IRC channel, changes on live.gnome.org , as 
well as other websites should be done. The first mockup that I did looks 
like this : http://i.imgur.com/TbbqX.png .


I will really appreciate if you tell me your opinion, your suggestions etc.

Have a great night, and thank you.

Elena Petrevska
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