Adding Flattr to GNOME website
Hi, What do people think about adding Flattr buttons (See https://flattr.com/ ) to the GNOME website? 1. It's a nice way for users to show their appreciation to GNOME. 2. It's trivial to add as the GNOME site is running wordpress and there is a flattr plugin 3. It's again a bit of revenue for the GNOME foundation that can be used for improving GNOME Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Traineeships at GNOME
Hi, In the Netherlands it's normal that computer science students need to do 6 month traineeship at a company working on a certain project. Outside the Google SOC program I've never really noticed (but I might have missed it) trainees working on GNOME. I thought it might be an idea to have a traineeships page at gnome.org where companies can propose possible traineeships. With the trainees we can get some love back that Bastien is missing [1]. Actually his email triggered this one. Has it ever been tried in the past to promote traineeships for GNOME outside of the SOC scope? Another related idea is to have a jobs page where companies can post GNOME related job ads. We could even opt to ask some donation for placing the ad ($100 ?). Or we could make it a perk for corporate sponsors of GNOME. If they pay x a year they get the job ads for free. What are your thoughts about this? Regards, Jaap [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2010-May/msg00039.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME and the new website
I like the design a lot :-) Jaap On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 02:12, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se wrote: With the new GNOME website [1] coming up soonish, I thought it would be nice to update the Friends of GNOME website as well, so I did some mockups. Some goals I wanted to accomplish: * Adapt the layout to the new site. * Shorten the donation process. * Present less information on initial page (but easy to access). http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/friends-20.png 1. Initial page setup 2. Hovering a option grays out the others and show what you'll get in return 3. Clicking a option brings up the additional details you need to fill out. Clicking the donation button brings you directly to the paypal page. The Amazon store thing, the badge and the OLPC stuff would go below the sidebar. What do you think? 1. http://website-editors.gnome.org/ - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME December January Data
I think the easy solution is to syndicate the foundation blog. I don't see the fundamental reason why this should not be on Planet GNOME. My feeling is that the taking turns thing won't work. At least sofar I have not seen hands going up. If a few more people are willing to join I don't mind joining the taking turn thing. Jaap On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:47, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I can definitely post them on the Foundation blog. To be honest, I stopped doing that because I wasn't sure they got read there. Things on Planet obviously get a lot more visibility. We could do both. I can blog on the Foundation blog and people can continue to take turns talking about it on Planet ... The Foundation blog is not syndicated on Planet because it isn't an individual ... Stormy On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Why not publish these things on the foundation blog. Because my experience is that these things don't work well if multiple people have to to it If I were you I'd post the weekly updates you do also on that blog. I believe that that blog is not on planet GNOME for some weird reason. Jaap On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 19:58, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi Stormy, I suggest you post these updates also to your blog as that probably leads to much more traffic to friends of GNOME instead of posting it here. I'd prefer that we had different people blog it every month. I don't really want to promote this every month on my personal blog. (I have lots of non-GNOME friends and people that read my blog and I think this is like asking them for money every month and I already feel like I do that. :) Volunteers? Maybe also nice if you can approach some friendly journalist that write an article about Friends of GNOME program etc. etc. I think we have a couple on this list ... all of us should talk about Friends of GNOME whenever we can. And help others in the community to do so as well. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME December January Data
Why not publish these things on the foundation blog. Because my experience is that these things don't work well if multiple people have to to it If I were you I'd post the weekly updates you do also on that blog. I believe that that blog is not on planet GNOME for some weird reason. Jaap On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 19:58, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi Stormy, I suggest you post these updates also to your blog as that probably leads to much more traffic to friends of GNOME instead of posting it here. I'd prefer that we had different people blog it every month. I don't really want to promote this every month on my personal blog. (I have lots of non-GNOME friends and people that read my blog and I think this is like asking them for money every month and I already feel like I do that. :) Volunteers? Maybe also nice if you can approach some friendly journalist that write an article about Friends of GNOME program etc. etc. I think we have a couple on this list ... all of us should talk about Friends of GNOME whenever we can. And help others in the community to do so as well. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME December January Data
Hi Stormy, I suggest you post these updates also to your blog as that probably leads to much more traffic to friends of GNOME instead of posting it here. Maybe also nice if you can approach some friendly journalist that write an article about Friends of GNOME program etc. etc. Jaap On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 20:15, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The December and January Friends of GNOME data is posted.[1] We had a stellar 2009! In 2009, Friends of GNOME raised $29,578 for GNOME! That is the same amount raised by 3 large companies. From community contributions. It's enough for several hackfests and close to the amount needed annually for a part time system administrator. In December we raised $2,663, more than any other December. In January we raised $1,587. We added variable monthly amounts and we now have people signed up for amounts varying from $1-50/month. Spread the good news! Promote Friends of GNOME[2]. Stormy [1] http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile [2] http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME December January Data
Hi Stormy, There's something wrong with the spreadsheet. The donations data tab contains many rows of the year 1899. And in December revenue is only 137$ in November only 19$. I think the error is in the donation data tab. Can you have a look at it? Jaap On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 20:15, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The December and January Friends of GNOME data is posted.[1] We had a stellar 2009! In 2009, Friends of GNOME raised $29,578 for GNOME! That is the same amount raised by 3 large companies. From community contributions. It's enough for several hackfests and close to the amount needed annually for a part time system administrator. In December we raised $2,663, more than any other December. In January we raised $1,587. We added variable monthly amounts and we now have people signed up for amounts varying from $1-50/month. Spread the good news! Promote Friends of GNOME[2]. Stormy [1] http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile [2] http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME December January Data
OK, but I see most of the data correctly. Starting from November 2009 it's not correct. Where do I need to change the date format or localization to get it to work? On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 18:41, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: It's a localization problem. If you change the date format to your format in the data spreadsheet, it will all work out. I'm not sure how to fix that universally. Stormy On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi Stormy, There's something wrong with the spreadsheet. The donations data tab contains many rows of the year 1899. And in December revenue is only 137$ in November only 19$. I think the error is in the donation data tab. Can you have a look at it? Jaap On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 20:15, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The December and January Friends of GNOME data is posted.[1] We had a stellar 2009! In 2009, Friends of GNOME raised $29,578 for GNOME! That is the same amount raised by 3 large companies. From community contributions. It's enough for several hackfests and close to the amount needed annually for a part time system administrator. In December we raised $2,663, more than any other December. In January we raised $1,587. We added variable monthly amounts and we now have people signed up for amounts varying from $1-50/month. Spread the good news! Promote Friends of GNOME[2]. Stormy [1] http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile [2] http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME
Hi Gil, All the code of the gnome website you can find in git See: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-wml/tree/ Feel free to use the code over there. The specific friend of GNOME pages are here http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-wml/tree/www.gnome.org/friends The *.wml pages over there are converted to html files with the script located here http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-wml/tree/include/evilsedhack Jaap On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 19:21, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The code is to find out people's preferences and then direct them to the right Paypal link. Jaap wrote most of it. Stormy On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Gil Forcada gforc...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, In guifi.net we want to have something like Friends of GNOME and I was wondering which license has de code [1] and if it's really feasible to port the code outside the GNOME infrastructure. May I ask this kind of questions in gnome-web-list mailing list? Regards, [1] http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnomeweb-wml/tree/www.gnome.org/friends -- gil forcada [ca] guifi.net - una xarxa lliure que no para de créixer [en] guifi.net - a non-stopping free network bloc: http://gil.badall.net -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME goals ( IRC meeting)
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 21:50, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: First observation, this page needs to be updated: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ Says 2008, obviously we're looking at 2009 donations now. (Sidebar) Jaap, can you help us? Sure I can change the year but I think the text below also needs to change. Can you provide text for that? BTW how are things going with your git account. Making these updates is trivial if you have a git account. About the friend of gnome program I think it would help if you would write a monthly blog entry about how the program is doing and what the foundation is doing with the money like you did a couple of times in 2009. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Please test amazon search plugin for the US (current ones not working :-( )
Hi, I think I found the error now. (I used gnomesearch-plugin as the affiliate id while it needed to be gnomesearchplugin ). Updated search plugins are now available on http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ Please deinstall the ones you currently have and do some searching and clicking on items and preferably also buying such that I can see that it works now Thanks Jaap On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 15:17, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, I just discovered that for some strange reason the referrals with the searchplugins I made don't work. By default when I log in to the affiliate account with Amazon account it shows the combined result of all referral IDs we have. The store on the website has a different id than for the search. I now looked at the individual ids and saw that for the search plugins we have zero sales and clicks. So something is wrong. I now changed the US plugin slightly such that it uses the same url (I used a slightly different one and thought it did not matter for getting affiliate fees) as the one ubuntu uses to get affiliate fees for canonical. Can you try the new one out? Just remove the search plugin you have and add the one on http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ Please click on some items and preferably also buy something such that I can see that it works correctly. Can you let me know if you bought something? In about 2 days (the reports are always about 2 days behind) I can see if the referrals really work. Sorry for not noticing earlier because I think we lost quite some money due to that. Looking at the bright side revenues can be quite a bit higher than sofar when I get the plugins working correctly Happy holidays Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Please test amazon search plugin for the US (current ones not working :-( )
Please wait around 15 minutes. I forgot to push the changes to the website. They should appear in a few minutes On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 14:27, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, I think I found the error now. (I used gnomesearch-plugin as the affiliate id while it needed to be gnomesearchplugin ). Updated search plugins are now available on http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ Please deinstall the ones you currently have and do some searching and clicking on items and preferably also buying such that I can see that it works now Thanks Jaap On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 15:17, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, I just discovered that for some strange reason the referrals with the searchplugins I made don't work. By default when I log in to the affiliate account with Amazon account it shows the combined result of all referral IDs we have. The store on the website has a different id than for the search. I now looked at the individual ids and saw that for the search plugins we have zero sales and clicks. So something is wrong. I now changed the US plugin slightly such that it uses the same url (I used a slightly different one and thought it did not matter for getting affiliate fees) as the one ubuntu uses to get affiliate fees for canonical. Can you try the new one out? Just remove the search plugin you have and add the one on http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ Please click on some items and preferably also buy something such that I can see that it works correctly. Can you let me know if you bought something? In about 2 days (the reports are always about 2 days behind) I can see if the referrals really work. Sorry for not noticing earlier because I think we lost quite some money due to that. Looking at the bright side revenues can be quite a bit higher than sofar when I get the plugins working correctly Happy holidays Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Please test amazon search plugin for the US (current ones not working :-( )
New plugins are there now. So please test them Thanks Jaap On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 14:31, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Please wait around 15 minutes. I forgot to push the changes to the website. They should appear in a few minutes On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 14:27, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, I think I found the error now. (I used gnomesearch-plugin as the affiliate id while it needed to be gnomesearchplugin ). Updated search plugins are now available on http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ Please deinstall the ones you currently have and do some searching and clicking on items and preferably also buying such that I can see that it works now Thanks Jaap On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 15:17, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, I just discovered that for some strange reason the referrals with the searchplugins I made don't work. By default when I log in to the affiliate account with Amazon account it shows the combined result of all referral IDs we have. The store on the website has a different id than for the search. I now looked at the individual ids and saw that for the search plugins we have zero sales and clicks. So something is wrong. I now changed the US plugin slightly such that it uses the same url (I used a slightly different one and thought it did not matter for getting affiliate fees) as the one ubuntu uses to get affiliate fees for canonical. Can you try the new one out? Just remove the search plugin you have and add the one on http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ Please click on some items and preferably also buy something such that I can see that it works correctly. Can you let me know if you bought something? In about 2 days (the reports are always about 2 days behind) I can see if the referrals really work. Sorry for not noticing earlier because I think we lost quite some money due to that. Looking at the bright side revenues can be quite a bit higher than sofar when I get the plugins working correctly Happy holidays Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Please test amazon search plugin for the US (current ones not working :-( )
Hi, I just discovered that for some strange reason the referrals with the searchplugins I made don't work. By default when I log in to the affiliate account with Amazon account it shows the combined result of all referral IDs we have. The store on the website has a different id than for the search. I now looked at the individual ids and saw that for the search plugins we have zero sales and clicks. So something is wrong. I now changed the US plugin slightly such that it uses the same url (I used a slightly different one and thought it did not matter for getting affiliate fees) as the one ubuntu uses to get affiliate fees for canonical. Can you try the new one out? Just remove the search plugin you have and add the one on http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ Please click on some items and preferably also buy something such that I can see that it works correctly. Can you let me know if you bought something? In about 2 days (the reports are always about 2 days behind) I can see if the referrals really work. Sorry for not noticing earlier because I think we lost quite some money due to that. Looking at the bright side revenues can be quite a bit higher than sofar when I get the plugins working correctly Happy holidays Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Add Support GNOME Badge to Planet GNOME?
Hi, It's pretty easy to add it but the footer seems to be a place where you hardly will get clicks. I'd go for the header instead. Jaap On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 16:22, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Is there an opportunity to add a Support GNOME badge [1] to the footer of Planet GNOME? I'm not sure who maintains the Planet code itself (I know Vincent and Lucas maintain who is aggregated). Looking at the footer, maybe there is room on the far right side under the GNOME Logo and disclaimer? Paul [1] http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME October data
Hi Stormy, You probably uploaded the wrong file as the file does not shows only data until end of september Jaap On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 22:39, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The October data is posted.[1] We raised $1819 in October, a slight increase from $1720 in September for a total of $25,233 since January 1, 2009 which is awesome! Four times more than we made in 2008! We lost a couple of subscribers in October. I thanked all of them and asked them why they left. Most didn't answer. One wrote that his personal situation had changed and he needed to make budget cuts. Another responded that he started contributing when he heard we needed help with hackfests but when he heard how much staff was making, he decided to cancel. I'm still thanking everyone personally. Hopefully when I get CiviCRM configured we can automate the tracking part. Stormy [1] http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
PIWIK
Did somebody already put the tracking code on pages, before I did the commit to git. On Saturday and Sunday there were hits and I made a mistake with the commit to evilsedhack so the hits did not come from there Jaap On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 18:29, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 14:15, Jeff Schroeder jeffschr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Great!! Shouldn't we add this piwik script to every page? Can be done very easy by modifying include/evilsedhack in gnomeweb-wml. If you're a committer to gnomeweb-wml feel free :) Andreas Nilsson has the piwik login if anyone needs it. I've just commited it to gnomeweb-wml and the foundation-web Thanks Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pages
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 14:15, Jeff Schroeder jeffschr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Great!! Shouldn't we add this piwik script to every page? Can be done very easy by modifying include/evilsedhack in gnomeweb-wml. If you're a committer to gnomeweb-wml feel free :) Andreas Nilsson has the piwik login if anyone needs it. I've just commited it to gnomeweb-wml and the foundation-web Thanks Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME September data
Just pushed it to the foundation web. Revenue of the GNOME Amazon Store has been dissapointing sofar. Maybe 10$ for September when you include all the international stores. I can write a blog entry about it, but we need a bit more push I think to get GNOME lovers to for instance install the firefox search plugin that we have on the pages like http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ After that they just need to use the search plugin to enter the amazon site and the GNOME foundation gets all the referral fees Jaap On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 20:09, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The September data is posted: http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile We raised $1720 in September (up from $1212 in August) for a total of $23,415 since January 1, 2009. We didn't have any new subscribers in August. (But we have had a couple already in October - we need to market though if we are going to reach our goal of 10 new subscribers a month!) Stormy On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The August data is posted: http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile We raised $1212 in August for a total of $21,695 since January 1, 2009. Subscriptions held steady. (And thanks to Guy and Jaap you can now specify your monthly amount!) I posted some of the graphs on the Foundation blog: http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/09/05/friends-of-gnome-august-2009-update/ Stormy On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The July data is posted: http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile Great news: * We passed the $20,000 mark which was our original goal for all of 2009! Good news: * July 2009 is much better than all other July's in documented history. OK news: * Numbers held steady with June. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: bugs press
Stormy, I think your mighty powers have solved somehow it already. :-) I just mounted a remote server with sshfs and both gedit and gnumeric can load and save files. I'm running the beta Karmic Koala so GNOME 2.28 Jaap On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 21:12, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: She says: Carla Schroder also commented on her status: Hi Stormy, the problem apps are Gedit and Gnumeric. It's consistent no matter what distro they're installed on. Here's the short story: Gedit will not save to a SSHFS share, it gives this error message: 'Could not save the file /home/carla/sshfs/easylist. txt. You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.' Sometimes disabling 'Create a backup copy before saving' cures it, sometimes not. Gnumeric will not save to an SSHFS share. The save fails with an 'Operation not permitted' message. I can use File-Save As once and save it under a new name. Then subsequent saves fail. I didn't keep a record of the bug reports or forum discussions on this, there are many. This bug report is similar to my issue, and typical of what I remember reading: http://www.facebook.com/l/;https://bugs.launchpad.net/sshfs-mounter/+bug/34813 If you can fix this you have mighty powers. I didn't bother pursuing it any further; ordinarily I would look for a workaround or file a bug report, but that didn't seem like it would accomplish anything in this case. Stormy On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: I'd be surprised that this is the case. Gedit and Gnumeric both use gio/gvfs at least in their latest releases. I'd be very surprised if that is broken because in that case almost no GNOME app would be able to save to a network share So maybe best to ask her which version she is running of GNOME and which distro Jaap On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 19:25, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Carla Schroder is a press person who's been pretty friendly towards us. Any way we could get this bug fixed and then send her an email? Maybe she'd write about it ... (And please don't send her any emails of it's already fixed if she'd just do this or it won't be fixed because ... or ...) Stormy From Facebook: Carla Schroder Yet one more reason Gnome is annoying and broken: Gedit and Gnumeric will not save to network shares. Many old bug reports languish. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: bugs press
I'd be surprised that this is the case. Gedit and Gnumeric both use gio/gvfs at least in their latest releases. I'd be very surprised if that is broken because in that case almost no GNOME app would be able to save to a network share So maybe best to ask her which version she is running of GNOME and which distro Jaap On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 19:25, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Carla Schroder is a press person who's been pretty friendly towards us. Any way we could get this bug fixed and then send her an email? Maybe she'd write about it ... (And please don't send her any emails of it's already fixed if she'd just do this or it won't be fixed because ... or ...) Stormy From Facebook: Carla Schroder Yet one more reason Gnome is annoying and broken: Gedit and Gnumeric will not save to network shares. Many old bug reports languish. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Promoting the GNOME amazon store
Hi, Shall I add to the main gnome page like this http://gnome.haitsma.org/ Jaap On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 23:40, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: I didnt know about the gnome amazon store until I heard about it on this list. Its just not visable on the main page of Gnome.org so id say the reason why its not being used is really lack of visability. Shane On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 16:09 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: Jaap: Sofar we made this month the following in the GNOME amazon store http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ $5 in the US 1.4 euro in Germany 618 yen in Japan and nothing in Canada and the UK We need some more marketing such that people in the community that buy at amazon will use the store or install the search plugin. Maybe some more people should blog about it Any other ideas what we can do? Why doesn't http://library.gnome.org/ and other relevant sites on the GNOME web point to the Amazon store? Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Promoting the GNOME amazon store
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 16:56, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I don't like having the Amazon logo on our home page. We don't have anyone else's logo there. I am ok with the text and link. I understand maybe somebody with more graphic skills than me can make a nice logo for the GNOME Amazon store. A logo is much better for conversion rates. People or much more likely to notice it and click on it I'll push the link for now and hopefully a graphic artist can make a nice logo Jaap Stormy On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: +1 from me. Let's get one more from the marketing team before making the change. Paul On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, Shall I add to the main gnome page like this http://gnome.haitsma.org/ Jaap On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 23:40, Shane Fagan shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote: I didnt know about the gnome amazon store until I heard about it on this list. Its just not visable on the main page of Gnome.org so id say the reason why its not being used is really lack of visability. Shane On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 16:09 -0500, Brian Cameron wrote: Jaap: Sofar we made this month the following in the GNOME amazon store http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ $5 in the US 1.4 euro in Germany 618 yen in Japan and nothing in Canada and the UK We need some more marketing such that people in the community that buy at amazon will use the store or install the search plugin. Maybe some more people should blog about it Any other ideas what we can do? Why doesn't http://library.gnome.org/ and other relevant sites on the GNOME web point to the Amazon store? Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Promoting the GNOME amazon store
Hi, Sofar we made this month the following in the GNOME amazon store http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ $5 in the US 1.4 euro in Germany 618 yen in Japan and nothing in Canada and the UK We need some more marketing such that people in the community that buy at amazon will use the store or install the search plugin. Maybe some more people should blog about it Any other ideas what we can do? Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Please uninstall Friend of GNOME Firefox addon
No not really somehow Amazon says it's against there operating agreement. It's all the detail they got. Usually it's really difficult to appeal against these things. So I thought we'd better be safe than sorry. Any I think most revenue would come from the store or searchplugin anyway. So let's promote that. Jaap On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 15:19, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Jaap, That's really too bad. Did they give any more details? Stormy On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, I was contacted by the people of iHeartMiro and they said that Amazon disabled their account because according to Amazon it violated their operating agreement. So if you installed the Firefox addon please uninstall it. I've already removed it from addons.mozilla.org Regards, Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Please uninstall Friend of GNOME Firefox addon
Hi, I was contacted by the people of iHeartMiro and they said that Amazon disabled their account because according to Amazon it violated their operating agreement. So if you installed the Firefox addon please uninstall it. I've already removed it from addons.mozilla.org Regards, Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Amazon stores up and running
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 07:44, Diego Escalante Urrelodie...@gnome.org wrote: Hey Jaap! On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 01:20 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: I've added a logo and text to the sidebar. Test site: http://gnome.haitsma.org/friends/ What do you think, ready to commit? Nice work!, thanks for your effort :-). I have a comment about the current store, on the right side I see this Install search plugin link. This says little to me, maybe a firefox extension icon and some sort of banner-button and a further explanation of what does the search plugins does would be better. It's not a Firefox extension but a search plugin (It even works in IE). Anybody any good suggestions? Patches are appreciated Also I would say that 2 columns would be better than 3, the third one being right now the 'Install search plugin' link, maybe put that as the top banner of the right column (in a 2 column layout) would be better. I can't control all columns the first two are part of an iframe that amazon produces. Over that iframe I don't have a lot of control Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Amazon stores up and running
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 01:52, Patrick Feyins...@nachtarbeiter.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jaap, I've added a logo and text to the sidebar. Test site: http://gnome.haitsma.org/friends/ What do you think, ready to commit? looks nice. I think you did a very good job on the whole Amazon project! Two caveats, though: a) I'm not a native speaker, but shouldn't it be purchase at instead of purchase in? b) I'd at a dot at the end of the sentence. While you're at it, could you please a) add a dot at the end of For details contact fundraising at gnome org b) Change the corporate sponsorship paragraph at the end of the page to: Do you as a company want to sponsor GNOME and take a seat in the GNOME Advisory Board? Please contact fundraising at gnome org. (added question mark in between and changed sponsoring to sponsor) Thanks for your comments. I made all the above changes. I think we also need to update the check.html page, since the amounts mentioned there do not match what we have on the index page right now. Or is this intentional? I never worked on it, so I don't know Stormy shall I change the check page to the amounts and levels as on the index page? Regards Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Amazon stores up and running
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 01:34, Jaap A. Haitsmaj...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, I think I now have the GNOME Amazon stores is such a shape that we can start advertising them. Please go to: http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ and take a look or even better buy something. To make it easy every store has a searchplugin which you can install in firefox. Just click on the dropdown of the search engines and you can add it. I've also released version 1.0 of GNOME Amazon Firefox add-on here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13182/ It's still needs to be reviewed by addons.mozilla.org but you can already use it. That extension automatically puts in the friend of gnome referal code, if there is none yet. So if you want to make sure that a percentage of what you buy goes to the GNOME foundation you better check that tag=friendofgnome-xx (where xx is 20, 21 or 22) is part of the URL or just buy directly in the GNOME amazon store. However I think the extension is something what you can install at computers of family members or friends (with their permission of course) who buy stuff at Amazon. For them nothing changes. They can just shop as they do normally but 4-6% of what they buy goes to the GNOME foundation So that's the technical part. Now how are we going to market this? 1) Stormy asked me to write about it on my blog. I'm waiting to get added to planet gnome. When that's the case I can write something 2) We can add a logo plus some text in the sidebar of www.gnome.org/friends 3) We could add something at the gnome homepage 4) Maybe even a press release. I've added a logo and text to the sidebar. Test site: http://gnome.haitsma.org/friends/ What do you think, ready to commit? Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 19:50, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Guy, Jaap, Thanks so much for enabling people to sign up with varying amounts. This is probably the single most requested feature in the Friends sign up process. Two requests: - Can we change the default to $25? - Can we move the $ to before the input field? Will do that probably in the coming weekend. Do you also want to change the text on http://www.gnome.org/friends/ Now it says 10$ or more. It's a bit weird that the default is then 25$, we might confuse people Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME
Hi Guy, Thanks for the patch. I decided to change it slightly. Basically I make people attentive at the top of the page that they can increase their donation. Basically the same as with the one time donations. That way it is more consistent. Furthermore I added a sentence like you did to explicitly ask people if they want to make a larger difference. It's already live on http://www.gnome.org/friends/ Jaap On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 04:08, Guy Lunardigluna...@novell.com wrote: Jaap, Finally found a few minutes to get back to this. Sorry it took so long, I was away this weekend in Florence and swamped before that. Not sure if the format will work for you but here is an attempt at a patch for the page that includes the changes I suggested. The front page of friends would need to change to reflect the new monthly subscription options. Best regards, -Guy On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 08:15 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Guy, Have you had time to work on your patch? Regards, Jaap On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 18:43, Guy Lunardigluna...@novell.com wrote: Awesome, I will do that later today. Got distracted looking at the terms and conditions of Paypal's subscription service. Not as clean as I would like them to be but I have not found an alternative. Best regards, -Guy On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 19:56 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Hi Guy, You can get the sources from git http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnomeweb-wml/tree/www.gnome.org/friends you can also clone the complete gnomeweb-wml repo. It allows you to also test your code Jaap On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 15:39, Guy Lunardigluna...@novell.com wrote: Jaap, If you could please send me the step2.php file from the server side, I will make the diff from that for you. I can only see the generated HTML coming out of the webserver and I am sure it is stripping out php content from the original document. Best, -Guy On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 07:58 +0200, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Hi Guy, Nice work. If the people like your changes you can sent me the patch and I can commit it for you. I'd move the section Feel like making a difference? Select the amount you wish to donate every month: to the top of the page. I would also add an option to do $100 and a free form option where people can fill in the amount they would like to contribute. We probably should check if the amount is more than 10$ or are we fine if people contribute less or we should only sent a t-shirt whenever a year has passed and 120$ has been contributed. What do others think? Jaap On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 06:05, Guy Lunardigluna...@novell.com wrote: Stormy, I looked into this rather quickly but it seems rather straightforward on the Paypal side. We need to make a few changes to our HTML form and that should be it. We would need to make the following changes to the form: - Change cmd from _s-xclick to _xclick-subscriptions - Add a3 input which define the amount of the donation - Add p3 input with a value of 1 (every month) - Add t3 input with a value of M (Monthly) - Add src input with a value of 1 (recurring) - Rename item_name to remove $10/month - Remove references to for a monthly amount of $10 There are many way to handle a3 (the donation amount): - We use HTML radio elements like the rest of the form - Use javascript to create the form (unnecessary) - ... While I was procrastinating this evening waiting for Miguel to be ready to go home, I made a sample page with most of these edits: http://www.487massave.org/friends/step2.html It should be live and connect to Paypal... I did not test all the way, I don't have any privileges to make changes to the actual page but will be happy to walk anyone to the changes I made to the page above. Best regards, -Guy On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 15:29 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: Anybody like to take this on? Maybe when you click on monthly, there's a link that says different amounts and that takes you to a page with different amounts. (I'm not the ui designer though!) Thanks, Stormy -- Forwarded message -- From: John Palmieri jo...@redhat.com Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM Subject: Re: Friends of GNOME To: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Hi Stormy, Nice touch with the e-mail actually. It is nice to see a human behind all of this instead of the automated beast that is PayPal. It really took a bit to find out how to cancel the subscriptions but since you have to go through PayPal people will blame them :) In any case Zana set up a link for me. I suggested to her that we set up links for $10, $20, $30, $40, $50 and $100 a month (you
GNOME Amazon stores up and running
Hi, I think I now have the GNOME Amazon stores is such a shape that we can start advertising them. Please go to: http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ and take a look or even better buy something. To make it easy every store has a searchplugin which you can install in firefox. Just click on the dropdown of the search engines and you can add it. I've also released version 1.0 of GNOME Amazon Firefox add-on here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13182/ It's still needs to be reviewed by addons.mozilla.org but you can already use it. That extension automatically puts in the friend of gnome referal code, if there is none yet. So if you want to make sure that a percentage of what you buy goes to the GNOME foundation you better check that tag=friendofgnome-xx (where xx is 20, 21 or 22) is part of the URL or just buy directly in the GNOME amazon store. However I think the extension is something what you can install at computers of family members or friends (with their permission of course) who buy stuff at Amazon. For them nothing changes. They can just shop as they do normally but 4-6% of what they buy goes to the GNOME foundation So that's the technical part. Now how are we going to market this? 1) Stormy asked me to write about it on my blog. I'm waiting to get added to planet gnome. When that's the case I can write something 2) We can add a logo plus some text in the sidebar of www.gnome.org/friends 3) We could add something at the gnome homepage 4) Maybe even a press release. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Exploiting the Nokia N900 release
Hi, With the imminent release of the Nokia N900 GNOME technologies will be deployed widely in the mobile arena. Maybe the GNOME foundation should issue a press release. Or we should think of other ways to exploit the news. Maybe show an article + image on the front page of the GNOME website? Also like new releases of Ubuntu, Fedora etc with new GNOME releases could be listed. Or maybe computer vendors such as system76 release a new notebook with GNOME on it. Now I think of it we could maybe have some section called Powered by GNOME Technologies Feedback, more ideas? Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: advisory board fees
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 02:38, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi GNOME Marketing Team, At the Advisory Board meeting at GUADEC we discussed raising advisory board fees. I took the action item to discuss it with this list and to come up with some messaging for existing advisory board members. I'd welcome any and all feedback on how best to explain and portray this to existing advisory board members. Some key points: * Our advisory board fees have been steady for 10 years. * Inflation, the value of the dollar and the economy have all changed during that time. ($10,000 in 1999 is only $7892 in today's dollars.) * We increased our staff costs a lot in the past year and that's resulted in a lot of things they said were good - we've seen a lot of activity in the past year. * In the past year we've accomplished a lot from marketing to co-locating an event with KDE to announcing plans to ship GNOME 3.0. * Hackfests are one of the key ways we get great things done (and the advisory board members all agree) but depending on them to support all of them turned out to be a bad idea in a downturn. We need to make sure the income we can count on can support key hackfests without additional money. * We are getting better at doing more with less - we're being more efficient. Take the travel committee for example. The travel committee is greatly improving the GNOME Foundation's efficiency in sponsoring travel. By organizing lodging as well as approving airfare, they were able to substantially increase the number of people who received travel assistance. For GUADEC 2009 they managed travel assistance for 39 people for $31,838. Compare that to 36 people for $41,000 in 2008. * We are raising money in other ways, like Friends of GNOME which has raised $20,000 this year! * We are signing up new sponsors. Since Stormy started we've signed up 3 new sponsors. We haven't had as much traction as we'd like because of the economy but expect it to pick up again soon. When I read the above bullet list as a sponsor, the first three give reasons why I could give more money. The rest to me sound to me like reasons why I should not give more money (maybe even less) because GNOME is more efficient, raising money in other ways, more sponsors etc. The 4th point about GCDS you could change in: Co-locating GUADEC with KDE has had very positive effects for the Free desktop movement in general but is financially less profitable for GNOME itself. However in general I'd change the messaging to what will we do with the extra money: (That sounds more positive in my opinion) 1. More hackfest. These have proven to be hugely successful and speed up development 2. More permanent staff. Having Stormy on board has been a huge success (some examples) E.g. a permanent sysadmin can make sure that people do not have to wait that long for certain sysadmin stuff to happen. 3. You can offer the sponsors some of these things (logo page with sponsor story, quartely updates on roadmaps etc. etc.)we discussed a while ago for the premium package So basically tell them what they get for the 10,000$ extra and as a final remark: the fees have been 10.000$ for 10 years already. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME July data
I've also updated http://foundation.gnome.org/finance/ with the latest version of the spreadsheet Jaap On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 01:56, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: The July data is posted: http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile Great news: * We passed the $20,000 mark which was our original goal for all of 2009! Good news: * July 2009 is much better than all other July's in documented history. OK news: * Numbers held steady with June. Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Different subscription amounts for Friends of GNOME
Hi Guy, Nice work. If the people like your changes you can sent me the patch and I can commit it for you. I'd move the section Feel like making a difference? Select the amount you wish to donate every month: to the top of the page. I would also add an option to do $100 and a free form option where people can fill in the amount they would like to contribute. We probably should check if the amount is more than 10$ or are we fine if people contribute less or we should only sent a t-shirt whenever a year has passed and 120$ has been contributed. What do others think? Jaap On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 06:05, Guy Lunardigluna...@novell.com wrote: Stormy, I looked into this rather quickly but it seems rather straightforward on the Paypal side. We need to make a few changes to our HTML form and that should be it. We would need to make the following changes to the form: - Change cmd from _s-xclick to _xclick-subscriptions - Add a3 input which define the amount of the donation - Add p3 input with a value of 1 (every month) - Add t3 input with a value of M (Monthly) - Add src input with a value of 1 (recurring) - Rename item_name to remove $10/month - Remove references to for a monthly amount of $10 There are many way to handle a3 (the donation amount): - We use HTML radio elements like the rest of the form - Use javascript to create the form (unnecessary) - ... While I was procrastinating this evening waiting for Miguel to be ready to go home, I made a sample page with most of these edits: http://www.487massave.org/friends/step2.html It should be live and connect to Paypal... I did not test all the way, I don't have any privileges to make changes to the actual page but will be happy to walk anyone to the changes I made to the page above. Best regards, -Guy On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 15:29 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: Anybody like to take this on? Maybe when you click on monthly, there's a link that says different amounts and that takes you to a page with different amounts. (I'm not the ui designer though!) Thanks, Stormy -- Forwarded message -- From: John Palmieri jo...@redhat.com Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM Subject: Re: Friends of GNOME To: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Hi Stormy, Nice touch with the e-mail actually. It is nice to see a human behind all of this instead of the automated beast that is PayPal. It really took a bit to find out how to cancel the subscriptions but since you have to go through PayPal people will blame them :) In any case Zana set up a link for me. I suggested to her that we set up links for $10, $20, $30, $40, $50 and $100 a month (you won't get it if you don't ask for it as it is really a pain to sign up for multiple subscriptions). This can be done by having the first page redirect to a second page where there are radio buttons for each amount with the $10 being selected by default. When the user hits the submit button we simply redirect them to the correct PayPal link. -- John - Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hey! Never mind my last mail. How'd you get a $50 subscription set up?? Thanks very much! Stormy On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi John, I saw you canceled your Friends of GNOME subscription. I just wanted to let you know that we appreciate your contributions. If there's anything I can do to help you, let me know. (And if you have any feedback for the Friends of GNOME program, please let me know!) Best, Stormy -- Stormy Peters Executive Director GNOME Foundation 970-481-2076 -- -- John (J5) Palmieri Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: PayPal fee structure
Every little bit helps. Thanks Jaap On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 18:33, Rosanna Yuenz...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, After much prodding, we seem to be getting nonprofit rates through our PayPal account now. We had previously been charged 2.9% + $.30 for domestic transactions. We now are charged 2.2% + $.30 per domestic transaction. I believe (but cannot verify) that international transactions are $.10 more per transaction. If we ever get above $100,000 in monthly volume, our rate should drop to 1.9% + $.30 per transaction. These rates and other PayPal information can be found here: https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/Marketing/merchant/NonProfitsFAQ-outside They have links to MySpace and Facebook widgets if anyone thinks they are worthwhile. Thanks, Rosanna -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: First version of GNOME amazon store online
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 13:04, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Very cool, Jaap. I like it. (And it looks much less cluttered than the regular Amazon store!) Another thought for a category would be computers with GNOME preinstalled like the Asus Eee PC, the HP mini, IBM thinkpad, ... (I got these from an Amazon search for Linux laptop.) Done for the .com store Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 21:13, Claus Schwarmclschw...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 04:20 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: The file is good now. The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki, http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific May, June numbers are way down. It underscores why subscriptions are so important - that's the only number that held steady. I think we could use a Friends of GNOME campaign to encourage people to sign up and to get their friends to sign up ... Well, there are a number of factors. You may like to add some numbers from the statistics page of www.gnome.org, available here: http://www.gnome.org/stats/ I just did and there's several points that might be helpful. First, I tried to get a measure of conversions of the wgo/friends page, that is: I related the number of donors to the number of visitors of the wgo/friends page. Here's the result: Jan 2009 0.92 Feb 2009 0.61 Mar 2009 0.70 Apr 2009 1.42 May 2009 2.23 Jun 2009 1.61 Compared to the previous month, the June numbers are not as good, but it's still better then Apr 2009! Unfortunately, the result is bad, overall. The visitor numbers are taken from a field in the monthly stats called Top 10 of X Total Entry Pages. In other words, that's the number of visitors who directly surfed to wgo/friends/ -- probably from the linked images, maybe from urls in post on planet.gnome.org, maybe from other sources. It probably does not include people who came to /friends/ from within wgo! Thus, it's very likely that the total number of visitors is higher than the numbers I could use. The conversion rate is thus lower in reality. And it's also likely that our first friends-of-gnome campaign just reached those people who are very involved in gnome. Of course, their number is rather small, so it was to be expected that we could only a spike. So, the first result is this: There are two reasons for the drop in June. (1) The average amount of donations dropped. (2) The text on the friends page does not sell. We need to write a better one. Second, let's have a look at what I call leads: This is the number of visitors for wgo/friends/ in relation to the number of visitors of all pages under www.gnome.org: Jan 2009 1.27 Feb 2009 0.77 Mar 2009 0.83 Apr 2009 0.83 May 2009 1.20 Jun 2009 0.82 Overall, we don't even get 1 percent of all visitors of the wgo pages to look at the wgo/friends page. Maybe, we could improve this one, too? The reason is not just that there's no visible link on the wgo front page to wgo/friends! For if we look at what people really are looking for on wgo, it's the project pages! Here are some examples from June: 259,921 / 72,288 /evolution/ 49,232 /dia/ 42,528 /NetworkManager/ 36,877 /totem/ 36,045 /rhythmbox/ 35,207 /anjuta/ 31,205 /tomboy/ 25,929 /gnumeric/ 24,462 /epiphany/ Btw, I don't know what's wrong here, but except for gnumeric, they all 404'ed! If that's not just due to some problem with Webalizer, there's lots of traffic we ignore. Why are there no proper 301 redirects for these pages? So the other result is this: We need to plug friends-of-gnome images/links on all the project homepages, if we want more leads for the wgo/friends/ page, not just the wgo front page. And we need to make sure, these urls are redirected. On a general side note, Webalizer is not really sufficient to track stuff like this. Nice analysis but I agree with Clause that we need a better tool. Some weeks ago there was discussion about installing piwik http://piwik.org/ The sysadmin team had some security concerns Stormy do you know what the status is now? Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
First version of GNOME amazon store online
Hi, I've got a first version of the amazon store online. I'd like to have some feedback and consensus where to go from here. The shop is online at http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ If you are using Firefox you see a highlight on the search box. Clicking on it enables you to add the Amazon.com GNOME search engine. It's just like the normal search engine as shipped with Firefox only the affiliate is set such that the GNOME foundation gets a percentage of the subsequent sale. Basically the idea is to stimulate GNOME lovers to buy their stuff at the GNOME amazon store and/or use the Amazon.com GNOME search plugin. Does anybody know if the fees received for the plugin are the same as for a shop. I can't find anything about it on the amazon site. Seems to be a fixed percentage per product. I've also added the other shop outside the US http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ca http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/de http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/fr http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/jp http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/uk These pages don't contain a shop yet (I prefer to have some feedback first), but they contain the search engine already. A note. I can't do much about how the shop looks. I'm just embedding http://astore.amazon.com/gnomestore-20 in a iframe. Amazon just allows me to play with some colors, fonts and which categories I want to add Things I'm still planning on doing 1) Switching between the shops by putting links to the other shops on each of the shop pages 2) Add a link to the firefox extension I talked about earlier. I already submitted it to addons.mozilla.org 3) Add a link on which you can click to install the searchplugin Let me know your thoughts. Thanks Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Amazon referrals firefox extension for GNOME
I guess what you're trying to do is clicking on the link in the mail.
In gmail that somehow does not work for me neither
If copy paste it in the url bar it works for me
Otherwise just go to
http://ftp.haitsma.org
and subsequently click on the friendofgome.xpi
If that does not work you can always download it and subsequently
install it by just using File - Open
Jaap
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 19:33, Paul Cutlerpcut...@gnome.org wrote:
Quick question, as I can't figure it out, but how do you manually install
the extension? Going to Tools - Add-Ons, I see how to get addons from
Mozilla, but I don't see an install local option, like I do in Thunderbird.
Just trying to help test it out! :)
Paul
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote:
OK, I now have a 0.99 version of the Friend of GNOME extension setup
with all the new referrals code we made
Can you give it a try
http://ftp.haitsma.org/friendofgnome.xpi
It basically adds a referrer code to the url whenever you get onto the
amazon site from another site and there is no referrer set yet.
(Changing a referrer is not allowed by the terms of Amazon)
You'll see the following added to your url
tag=friendofgnome-20 for .com site
tag=friendofgnome-ca-20 for .ca site
tag=friendofgnome-uk-21 for .uk site
tag=friendofgnome-de-21 for .de site
tag=friendofgnome-fr-21 for .fr site
tag=friendofgnome-jp-22 for .jp site
Would be nice that somebody could actually buy something so we can see
if it works OK. Let us know what you bought and we can check if the
GNOME foundation gets the referral fee.
When it works I'll put the extension on addons.mozilla.org and look at
where to put it on the gnome site
Regards,
Jaap
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 08:07, Jaap A. Haitsmaj...@haitsma.org wrote:
Done. For Japan you just had an option to go for gift certificates or
a bank account. I believe bank account should be in Japan. So I went
for the gift certificate at the moment. We should have japanese
speaking GNOME member have a look at this.
For the french store I've made friendofgnome-fr-21 for the japanese
friendofgnome-jp-21
Stormy,
I'll sent you the passwords in a seperate email
Jaap
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 23:36, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote:
Very cool.
I did the German one. That high school German was good for something
more
than ordering beer. :)
friendofgnome-de-21
If you could do France and Japan, that'd be great.
ama...@gnome.org
GNOME Foundation
Box 101
Groton, MA 01450
+1-617-206-3947
And I selected payment by check for all the ones I filled out.
Thanks,
Stormy
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org
wrote:
Stormy,
If you are on american affiliate page
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/
You can select the locale at the top right that gives you access to
all the others including the French and German
I can do the French and German one, without too much trouble and can
have a go at the japanese one (the sites are pretty similar and google
translate always helps). Which email address should I use?
I need contact information
street,
postal code
city
state
tel phone number
Jaap
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 20:47, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote:
I created accounts in:
http://affiliate-program.amazon.co.uk, friendofgnome-21
http://associates.amazon.ca, friendofgnome06-20 (friendofgnome-20
was
not
available)
Now I could use some help:
I found the web page for https://affiliate.amazon.co.jp but it was
in
Japanese ...
I couldn't find France or Germany's affiliate pages.
Any others?
Thanks,
Stormy
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org
wrote:
Hi,
I packaged up the friendofgnome amazon referral extension. It's
here
if you want to try it
http://ftp.haitsma.org/friendofgnome.xpi
Comments appreciated. I'll put it on mozilla addons site when we
decide it's ready
I also added for the non-US stores the referral code. It's also
friendofgnome but in europe a -21 gets added and in japan -22.
This is the relevant code
if (check('co.uk')) { return 'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('de') || check('at')) { return
'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('fr') ||
uri.host.toLowerCase().indexOf('amazone.com') != -1) { return
'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('ca')) { return 'friendofgnome-20'; }
else if (check('co.jp') || check('jp')) { return
'friendofgnome-22'; }
else { return 'friendofgnome-20'; }
Stormy,
Can you make these referral accounts in the respective shops?
Jaap
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:14, Dave Nearydne...@gnome.org wrote:
Hi Jaap,
It's also possible to add in the extensions as we get new ones -
with
just
Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements
I can have a go at it. BTW how high were the donations in June? Did it go up? Jaap On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 18:46, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Who would like to be the Friends of GNOME maintainer? We've gotten a lot of feedback, especially on the subscription process. People would like to be able to: - choose their monthly amount - pick an annual subscription or a monthly subscription - pick dollars or euros And we've gotten feedback like: - the default amount should be at least $25 - make it easy to make a one time payment in your preferred amount And we need it to be easy to just pick the default and go without lots of choices overwhelming people. I'm not a usability expert, but obviously we can't just keep listing more and more options, we need to branch out into drop down lists, etc. Another complication is that Paypal doesn't allow variable amounts, so we will have to create a Paypal subscription for every option we offer. Rosanna and I can help with that part. Would somebody like to take on the challenge? Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friend of GNOME Amazon store
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 00:06, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Number 1 we can over come by asking people to install an amazon gnome search engine and remove the other search engine, but I think that's cumbersome for most users. I think we should tell people how though on the extension's web page. Some people, especially technical GNOME community members, might be more than willing to do that. Does anybody know if you can replace search engines from a firefox extension? Another idea could be to open Friend of GNOME amazon store. I've made one as an example on http://gnome.haitsma.org/friends/amazon/ If we motivate people to use that store to buy their books, dvds, computers etc. the foundation can also raise significant money. I like it. Is there anyway we could add a being read by the community? Maybe scan for isbn numbers mentioned on Planet and have those products automatically included? That I think is not possible I haven't seen any programming interface for making these stores. You could of course make a custom page which you make from scraping planet gnome for books and generating links with the right referrer in there. With these links you generate a custom page read by the community Jaap Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Automatically giving GNOME foundation the referral to amazon products on your blog
Hi, By installing the following extension on your blog you can make sure that all links to amazon include a referrer. http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/amazon-associate-filter/ If we ask people to set this to friendofgnome-20 we could make some money out of that. We can also ask the sysadmin team to install it for blogs.gnome.org. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Amazon referrals firefox extension for GNOME
Stormy,
If you are on american affiliate page
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/
You can select the locale at the top right that gives you access to
all the others including the French and German
I can do the French and German one, without too much trouble and can
have a go at the japanese one (the sites are pretty similar and google
translate always helps). Which email address should I use?
I need contact information
street,
postal code
city
state
tel phone number
Jaap
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 20:47, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote:
I created accounts in:
http://affiliate-program.amazon.co.uk, friendofgnome-21
http://associates.amazon.ca, friendofgnome06-20 (friendofgnome-20 was not
available)
Now I could use some help:
I found the web page for https://affiliate.amazon.co.jp but it was in
Japanese ...
I couldn't find France or Germany's affiliate pages.
Any others?
Thanks,
Stormy
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote:
Hi,
I packaged up the friendofgnome amazon referral extension. It's here
if you want to try it
http://ftp.haitsma.org/friendofgnome.xpi
Comments appreciated. I'll put it on mozilla addons site when we
decide it's ready
I also added for the non-US stores the referral code. It's also
friendofgnome but in europe a -21 gets added and in japan -22.
This is the relevant code
if (check('co.uk')) { return 'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('de') || check('at')) { return 'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('fr') ||
uri.host.toLowerCase().indexOf('amazone.com') != -1) { return
'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('ca')) { return 'friendofgnome-20'; }
else if (check('co.jp') || check('jp')) { return
'friendofgnome-22'; }
else { return 'friendofgnome-20'; }
Stormy,
Can you make these referral accounts in the respective shops?
Jaap
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:14, Dave Nearydne...@gnome.org wrote:
Hi Jaap,
It's also possible to add in the extensions as we get new ones - with
just
amazon.com it's already useful.
Cheers,
Dave.
Stormy Peters wrote:
Thanks, Jaap!
On amazon.com http://amazon.com we have friendofgnome-20
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/network/your-account/manage-tracking-ids.html?ie=UTF8idbox%5Ftracking%5Fid=friendofgnome-20tracking%5Fid%5Fsearchterm=
(in addition to others). I'll work on the other accounts the week after
GUADEC.
Stormy
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org
mailto:j...@haitsma.org wrote:
Hi,
I picked up the task from http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Tasks
that wants to make a copy of iheartmiro http://www.iheartmiro.org/
It's mostly ready and I called the extension: friendofgnome
What I'm missing are the affiliate ID's for all the different
regions
(.com, .co.uk http://co.uk, ca, .fr, .de, .co.jp http://co.jp).
Stormy,
Can you set up these accounts and id's? Once you have setup the
accounts you can add extra id's to it. I suggest you use
friendofgnome.
Jaap
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Re: Amazon referrals firefox extension for GNOME
Hi,
I packaged up the friendofgnome amazon referral extension. It's here
if you want to try it
http://ftp.haitsma.org/friendofgnome.xpi
Comments appreciated. I'll put it on mozilla addons site when we
decide it's ready
I also added for the non-US stores the referral code. It's also
friendofgnome but in europe a -21 gets added and in japan -22.
This is the relevant code
if (check('co.uk')) { return 'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('de') || check('at')) { return 'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('fr') ||
uri.host.toLowerCase().indexOf('amazone.com') != -1) { return
'friendofgnome-21'; }
else if (check('ca')) { return 'friendofgnome-20'; }
else if (check('co.jp') || check('jp')) { return 'friendofgnome-22'; }
else { return 'friendofgnome-20'; }
Stormy,
Can you make these referral accounts in the respective shops?
Jaap
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:14, Dave Nearydne...@gnome.org wrote:
Hi Jaap,
It's also possible to add in the extensions as we get new ones - with just
amazon.com it's already useful.
Cheers,
Dave.
Stormy Peters wrote:
Thanks, Jaap!
On amazon.com http://amazon.com we have friendofgnome-20
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/network/your-account/manage-tracking-ids.html?ie=UTF8idbox%5Ftracking%5Fid=friendofgnome-20tracking%5Fid%5Fsearchterm=
(in addition to others). I'll work on the other accounts the week after
GUADEC.
Stormy
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org
mailto:j...@haitsma.org wrote:
Hi,
I picked up the task from http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Tasks
that wants to make a copy of iheartmiro http://www.iheartmiro.org/
It's mostly ready and I called the extension: friendofgnome
What I'm missing are the affiliate ID's for all the different regions
(.com, .co.uk http://co.uk, ca, .fr, .de, .co.jp http://co.jp).
Stormy,
Can you set up these accounts and id's? Once you have setup the
accounts you can add extra id's to it. I suggest you use
friendofgnome.
Jaap
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Friend of GNOME Amazon store
Hi, Because of the Operating agreement of Amazon affiliates [1] the firefox extension [2] which makes gnome automatically a referrer is limited. 1) It cannot overwrite existing referrers. (E.g. the search box in firefox makes mozilla the referrer on windows and in ubuntu canonical is the referrer) 2) It cannot put referrers in if the user is already on the amazon site Number 1 we can over come by asking people to install an amazon gnome search engine and remove the other search engine, but I think that's cumbersome for most users. Does anybody know if you can replace search engines from a firefox extension? Another idea could be to open Friend of GNOME amazon store. I've made one as an example on http://gnome.haitsma.org/friends/amazon/ If we motivate people to use that store to buy their books, dvds, computers etc. the foundation can also raise significant money. What do you think of this? Jaap [1] https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/gp/associates/agreement?ie=UTF8pf_rd_t=501ref_=amb_link_84018271_6pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DERpf_rd_p=pf_rd_s=assoc-right-1pf_rd_r=pf_rd_i=assoc_join_menu [2] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2009-July/msg2.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: friendsofgnome
Hi Stormy, This does not seem to work. I can't access the site with my google account. Furthermore I think that many people in the community will be opposed to using a closed source tool, while we have a wiki that is open source. Moinmoin also has a WYSIWYG editor see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinFeatures I guess that is disabled on live.gnome.org or the version on live.gnome.org is too old. You could take it up with the sysadmin team Jaap On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 21:26, stormy.pet...@gmail.com wrote: I have invited you to share a Google Site: friendsofgnome https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount?followup=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Ffriendsofgnomeservice=jotspotreqemail=marketing-list%40gnome.org After creating your account and responding to the verification email, visit your site at http://sites.google.com/site/friendsofgnome/ I created a site in Google Sites so that we can edit HTML. I'm not sure how much of a step up this is from the wiki ... It's by invite only - this invite is going to the whole marketing mailing list. --- Google Sites are websites where people can view, share and edit information. To learn more, visit http://sites.google.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: friendsofgnome
I now notice that the original message of Stormy is almost a year old. I was already suprised having 33 new threads unread in the marketing list this morning. Did the moderator approve many old messages or is it a bug in gmail? Jaap On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 07:22, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi Stormy, This does not seem to work. I can't access the site with my google account. Furthermore I think that many people in the community will be opposed to using a closed source tool, while we have a wiki that is open source. Moinmoin also has a WYSIWYG editor see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinFeatures I guess that is disabled on live.gnome.org or the version on live.gnome.org is too old. You could take it up with the sysadmin team Jaap On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 21:26, stormy.pet...@gmail.com wrote: I have invited you to share a Google Site: friendsofgnome https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount?followup=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.google.com%2Fsite%2Ffriendsofgnomeservice=jotspotreqemail=marketing-list%40gnome.org After creating your account and responding to the verification email, visit your site at http://sites.google.com/site/friendsofgnome/ I created a site in Google Sites so that we can edit HTML. I'm not sure how much of a step up this is from the wiki ... It's by invite only - this invite is going to the whole marketing mailing list. --- Google Sites are websites where people can view, share and edit information. To learn more, visit http://sites.google.com/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Linux Foundation membership brings linux.com email address
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 04:36, Diego Escalante Urrelodie...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 15:04 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: The Linux Foundation is giving out linux.com email addresses in return for donations. As an incentive. So the question I have to ask: Should we give Friends of GNOME, maybe monthly subscribers, gnome.org email addresses? I personally prefer to keep it as a foundation-members-only benefit. Otherwise you suddenly find out a huge number of people writing from @gnome.org that you don't really know, it breaks most visible part of the idea of foundation membership as a network of trust I think (given that now you require the confidence of 2 members that vouch for you and your work to get in). I agree with this you should not be able to buy a gnome.org email address you should deserve it Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Premium sponsor ship offerings [WAS Re: recruiting sponsors]
This feels like reflex replying to remake the same point I made earlier, but anyway... Sorry about that. Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: How about something more like this: $3000 = 10 employees or $1M revenues $1 = 50 employees or $5M revenues $2 50 employees or $5M revenues Many private companies don't want to disclose their revenues so I'd leave that out. This is the type of structure (orders of magnitude different but...) that the Eclipse Foundation has. Revenue/size calculations are on an honour basis. http://www.eclipse.org/membership/become_a_member/membershipTypes.php Furthermore in this case if you are 11 people you already pay 10K, which is a lot for such a small company. If we're talking about advisory board dues (and again, I'm not sure which thing you're talking about with these packages), you're a strategically aligned company with GNOME, and you have 11 employees, then you're probably a company like Collabora - maybe Openismus is up to 11 now too? and your annual revenues are likely to be between $500K and $1M per year. Or you're a company like Litl (or Canonical in 2004-05), and you don't have any revenues yet. I was talking about the normal sponsorship dues $10K is a lot of money, don't get me wrong, but it's an investment which will give a return for companies like Collabora and Openismus, because the companies who spend money on developing their software will likely also be in the room in the advisory board meetings, when they're talking about things that should be invested in for the GNOME platform. And for companies like Canonical and Litl, it's important to be able to influence what people are investing in - whether it's Novell, Red Hat, Intel, or volunteer effort in the community. What we've seen in recent times is that there is more direction coming from corporate sponsored development by companies like OpenedHand, Nokia, Red Hat, Novell, Canonical, etc... than there is from community volunteer efforts. A company like Litl can definitely benefit from a dual approach - co-ordinating with bigger companies to help set direction, while working actively within the community (as they are doing) to ensure that their priorities are taken into consideration. Given the annual budget of 20 developers, $10K doesn't seem much for access to that influence. This is a good point. I didn't think about it that way If we're talking about an annual donation, then I agree with you, for a company that is a fan of, but not really aligned with, GNOME (someone like SilverOrange or maybe Dupedi (Belgian GNOME user, 75 employees), $10K is too much to ask, but $3K is entirely reasonable/possible. Yeah. So you are proposing that people in the advisory board should pay more that people that are just sponsors? For the normal sponsorship I would be opposed to only have size of the contribution matter. Many small shops are really important for the further development of GNOME and relatively contribute a lot of code to GNOME compared to large multinationals. This is what makes me think that you're conflating advisory board donors. The small shops that are very important for the further development of GNOME should be encouraged to join the advisory board. The large multinationals not contributing much code to GNOME should be encouraged to give us as much money as possible in return for the value we give them. The small companies who get some benefit from GNOME should also be encouraged to give us as much as possible. Agree. A serious question: will anyone give money to GNOME because of the things they get? Or will the things they get help grease the wheels? I can imagine a few different scenarios here. CTO: We have 200 people using GNOME internally - we're already paying for a support package to Red Hat, but I'd like to give some money to the GNOME Foundation to support their good work. What do you think? CFO: Sure, why not. How much are we talking about? CTO: $10,000 CFO spits coffee on keyboard. You're kidding me? You want to give $10,000 for software we're already paying for? CTO: Hold on, hold on... there's a package. We get our logo up on the GNOME website as a sponsors, we get to meet the GNOME Foundation executive director, we get to take part in the annual GNOME User Meeting, and we can call into a monthly conf call to get latest product plans and vote on the bugs that are important to us! CFO: Oh, if you put it like that... Here's a second possible conversation: CTO: How about we give some money to those fine folk in the GNOME Foundation? CEO: How much do they want? CTO: $10,000, and we get our logo on the website and in their annual report as a donor, and an invitation to attend the GNOME Users Summit to talk about the issues we have. CEO: $10,000? I was talking to a buddy who got all that last month, and they only gave $3,000. what gives? CTO: Well, they're smaller than us. CEO: Oh, if you put it like
Re: Premium sponsor ship offerings [WAS Re: recruiting sponsors]
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 23:22, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi Stormy, I like this idea of having Premium GNOME Foundations sponsorship In my opinion it would be best to have this as an extra option for companies I'd start with revising the standard sponsorship fees by having more levels depending on company size 1000$ 10 employees 2500$ 25 employees 5000$ 100 employees 1$ 1000 employees 2$ 1000 employees I think this is complicated. I think just 2-3 options is much simplier. Many people liked this option when we discussed it compared to the old system 5000$ 50 1$ 50 If you think 5 are too many I'd go for 3 1000$ 10 employees 5000$ 100 employees 2$ 1000 employees Premium sponsorship would be something you pay on top of that There are basically two options 1) Fixed amount of say 10K$. This seems a bit unfair for small companies, but also sponsorship of conferences etc. do not look at the size of the company if you want to be gold, silver or bronze sponsor. When sponsoring a conference they all get the same amount of benefit in advertising regardless of how big they are. Often concessions are made for the type of company (nonprofit, profit, etc) rather than the size of the company. Also if we decide to give Premium sponsor something that costs dollars we need to make sure that the extra premium fee covers this. Another argument for a fixed fee that is not too low is that Premium sponsorship should also be really a Premium. If everybody takes it it's standard not premium No, the whole idea is that premium is a way to charge more in one fee. I saw it more to simplify the approval process within the company. OK, in that case we really should look at what the potential costs could be and make the fee such that we can't be loosing money on it. 2) A percentage of the normal fee (let's say 100%). That would mean that companies over 1000 employees would pay 20K on top of the 20K they already pay for the normal fee. The change from 10K to 40K seems a bit steep to me, but you don't have to become a premium sponsor if you don't want to. Furthermore it could be the case that if we get manyPremium sponsors that are companies of less than 10 people, because for them it's just 1000$ to become a premium I think that's too complicated. I agree I just wanted to bring up the option I'm leaning towards a fixed Premium of 10K$, but if others have convincing arguments to do it differently I'm all open for it We currently charge $10K. I wouldn't think we'd charge a premium fee but rather have a premium package that includes all the normal things and then some. My idea for a premium fee was to help smaller companies. If you say a premium package costs 30K it will be to expensive for small companies. For a company with less than 10 people paying 1000$ a year (in my proposal) paying an extra fee of say 10K$ might be worth it, when there are perks like travel vouchers etc. Some more inline comments about ideas for the package below. 2) Create a set of GNOME Foundation sponsorship offerings. I recently worked with one of our sponsors to create a Premium GNOME Foundation sponsorship which included an adboard seat (that they already had) and GUADEC sponsorship. While the end amounts ended up being the same, it was easier for them to get internal approval for the package deal. So we could identify all the different benefits and package them up. Different packages could be targetted at different types and sizes of companies with advisory board seats being in packages targetting companies closely involved with GNOME products. (And we can always make exceptions.) Here's some of the benefits we could offer: (in return for a specified donation) * advisory board seat Should not be automatically the case in my opinion, but we could make it a pre requisite (at least for new adboard members) If it's a prereq, how do they get it? We could also customize the option for each sponsor. So the web page could say advisory board seat (requires approval or upon invitation) I agree we should put advisory board seat (requires approval) that in the package I If we invite non premium sponsor company X to be in the advisory board we should ask them to become premium sponsor * monthly meetings with key contributors on product plans (kind of like our current monthly adboard meetings) I have my doubts if the sponsors are interested in this, and might also be not that easy to setup They would be! We have monthly meetings now and the most well attended are the product related ones. OK, you know better. So we should include it. * annual face-to-face meetings with other advisory board members Probably best to do something around GUADEC. You invite them a day earlier (travel on their own cost) and have a meeting plus
Re: Google Adwords Application for Review (WAS Re: Google Adsense versus Adwords)
Sounds great. We should go for it. Jaap On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 20:52, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: Just an FYI, I just talked to a small nonprofit that started getting 10,000 hits a week after they started using Google ads through an Adwords grant. They receive a lot of donations from those hits (they didn't share how many.) It also made it easy for them to qualify for a Google Checkout account that doesn't take any fees for processing their credit card donations. Stormy On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Claus Schwarm clschw...@googlemail.com wrote: Stormy, thanks for your understanding. After some sleep and my second cup of coffee, I'm slowly going back to normal. :-) I'm also more the Let's get this started typ, except when applying for free stuff or submitting tax forms. For some reasons, the guys on the other side of the process often take submissions literally -- at least, in my experience. They almost never appreciate what was meant. And it's usually more work to explain afterwards, that one didn't mean what one wrote. So, I had a look at the grants guideline here: http://www.google.com/grants/details.html#eligibility I may have misunderstood parts of it, due to the language barrier. I apologize in advance if that happened. But it seems to me, we should not take this lightly. It says, among other things: Your ads must link only to the URL included in your application, as this is the URL approved for your Google Grant. I see a small problem here, especially in the only. The GIMP and GNUCash addresses are clearly different to ours and to each other. You must submit any significant changes of content on this URL for our review before the updated site is promoted via your AdWords account. We have no control on the GIMP and GNUCash sites. An innocent change by them that we overlook and not report might cause problems. Other websites belonging to your organization require our review and approval before they can be promoted through your AdWords account. So, we might add other urls later, IIUC. I'm also worried about the part belonging to your organization: Surely, GNUCash and GIMP are closely associated but do they belong to GNOME? If not, they can apply for a grant, too, I guess. Your ads must reflect the mission of your organization, and your keywords must be relevant to your programs and services. Here's another problem. The GIMP has no 'mission' as far as I can see and neither has GNUCash. If they have, it's not obvious on their homepages. And it certainly doesn't reflect our mission. If you are removed from the Google Grants program, your organization will be ineligible and should not apply again. We should really try to prevent that. I also studied your initial email, and unless there's something missing, what's our answer to the question about Organization Mission Statement / Primary Objective? Instead of making it complicated, couldn't we just use the Friends-of-GNOME page as an example? This would also circumvent any later problems when using competitor brands as keywords. Dunno what the US law says about that. Keywords might be GNOME, Nautilus, gedit, etc. AND Support OR Help OR Problem In other words: Whenever somebody is looking for help or support for one of our components, we advertise they could also help us. We can repeat the keywords in the headline, which is common practice. Google makes them bold automatically. An example for the application: 12345678901234567890123456789012345 Why Not Help GNOME, too? Join your Fellows in Supporting a Desktop Everyone Can Use Today. http://www.gnome.org/friends/ This might not be the best text, but we can refine that by testing other formulations when the account is open. Here's also a really important opportunity: We can make split test with Google Adwords! This means, we can make a nearly identical friends page and Google automatically directs to just one of them. Split tests are far more effective that questionnaires. It can improve conversions rates by 100 percent or more, sometimes. IIRC, the conversion rate of the current friend page is not that high. So there's lots of room for improvement! Sorry when I sound too worried. But 10,000 dollars a month on advertising is quite a lot of money. If we optimize the click stream for the friends of GNOME program, this may mean the same amount of additional cash for the foundation. What are other people opinions? Has anyone else read the application guidelines? Best regards, Claus On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 16:54 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: I'm happy to hold off if someone will have time to work on this later. But if not, I'll just wordsmith and cut it down and submit it. I have to admit I fall much closer to the just get it done side of the spectrum than the perfect side of the spectrum. Which is why I always appreciate feedback and
Re: Premium sponsor ship offerings [WAS Re: recruiting sponsors]
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:43, Dave Nearydne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Many people liked this option when we discussed it compared to the old system 5000$ 50 1$ 50 If you think 5 are too many I'd go for 3 1000$ 10 employees 5000$ 100 employees 2$ 1000 employees No members between 100 and 1000 employees? Oops my mistake. I just stroke out two of the five options How about something more like this: $3000 = 10 employees or $1M revenues $1 = 50 employees or $5M revenues $2 50 employees or $5M revenues Many private companies don't want to disclose their revenues so I'd leave that out. Furthermore in this case if you are 11 people you already pay 10K, which is a lot for such a small company. Looking at it it's not really easy to fit a fair system three scales. 4 seems to be the minimum, and it's also obvious in a way companies of 10, 100, 1000 or more than 1000 are very different companies. $1000 = 10 employees $5000 = 100 employees $1 = 1000 employees $2 1000 employees I'm in favour of increasing dues for existing advisory board members, with their agreement of course. My idea for a premium fee was to help smaller companies. If you say a premium package costs 30K it will be to expensive for small companies. For a company with less than 10 people paying 1000$ a year (in my proposal) paying an extra fee of say 10K$ might be worth it, when there are perks like travel vouchers etc. Again, I want to point out that there are 2 distinct issues here: advisory board membership (where the fee is important, but the strategic alignment with GNOME is more important) and sponsorship (where strategic alignment is unimportant, and we'll take your money whoever you are). We are in agreement here. The simple principle to follow for sponsorship is: if you pay more, you get more. The size of the company shouldn't even enter into consideration, it's the size of your contribution which matters. There is a certain charm in saying that a small guy who makes a proportionately larger donation should get more than a big guy making the same donation, but at the end of the day a $50,000 from Google is worth more to the GNOME Foundation than a $1000 donation from me, even though $1000 is probably comparatively more money to me. So why shouldn't Google get more thanks for giving more? I think the current thinking is to make the premium package something that has a fixed fee. So we are in agreement here. For the normal sponsorship I would be opposed to only have size of the contribution matter. Many small shops are really important for the further development of GNOME and relatively contribute a lot of code to GNOME compared to large multinationals. The reason I thought of this is because someone needed a premium sponsorship to include GUADEC. Again, it's about getting approval and it's easier to get approval once internally for one thing than to have to go back for all the line items. We'll have to see in the report, but I think most companies gave the same amount they would have given if it was just GUADEC - I'm not sure we made twice as much by combining the conferences. Not to say there aren't other benefits ... Which report are you talking about? The Gran Canaria Desktop Summit financial report, presumably. Looks like a decent package to me. (Stormy I think you beat all of us in the brainstorm :-) ) Comments? I think we should work it out further now to a concrete proposal with the right numbers I do like the idea of a sponsorship package, but I can't insist enough that it be completely separate from the advisory board, and be associated with the level of donation rather than size of the donor. The package (except for the advisory board seat) looks great. You would just need to chop it up in appropriate chunks to reflect contribution levels. Maybe we should take of the advisory board seat upon approval from the perks. Stormy, Can you out of the discussion make a conclusion which you also support and we can start formalizing with the existing sponsors as the new corporate fees and premium sponsorship Thanks Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Premium sponsor ship offerings [WAS Re: recruiting sponsors]
Hi Stormy, I like this idea of having Premium GNOME Foundations sponsorship In my opinion it would be best to have this as an extra option for companies I'd start with revising the standard sponsorship fees by having more levels depending on company size 1000$ 10 employees 2500$ 25 employees 5000$ 100 employees 1$ 1000 employees 2$ 1000 employees Premium sponsorship would be something you pay on top of that There are basically two options 1) Fixed amount of say 10K$. This seems a bit unfair for small companies, but also sponsorship of conferences etc. do not look at the size of the company if you want to be gold, silver or bronze sponsor. Also if we decide to give Premium sponsor something that costs dollars we need to make sure that the extra premium fee covers this. Another argument for a fixed fee that is not too low is that Premium sponsorship should also be really a Premium. If everybody takes it it's standard not premium 2) A percentage of the normal fee (let's say 100%). That would mean that companies over 1000 employees would pay 20K on top of the 20K they already pay for the normal fee. The change from 10K to 40K seems a bit steep to me, but you don't have to become a premium sponsor if you don't want to. Furthermore it could be the case that if we get manyPremium sponsors that are companies of less than 10 people, because for them it's just 1000$ to become a premium I'm leaning towards a fixed Premium of 10K$, but if others have convincing arguments to do it differently I'm all open for it Some more inline comments about ideas for the package below. 2) Create a set of GNOME Foundation sponsorship offerings. I recently worked with one of our sponsors to create a Premium GNOME Foundation sponsorship which included an adboard seat (that they already had) and GUADEC sponsorship. While the end amounts ended up being the same, it was easier for them to get internal approval for the package deal. So we could identify all the different benefits and package them up. Different packages could be targetted at different types and sizes of companies with advisory board seats being in packages targetting companies closely involved with GNOME products. (And we can always make exceptions.) Here's some of the benefits we could offer: (in return for a specified donation) * advisory board seat Should not be automatically the case in my opinion, but we could make it a pre requisite (at least for new adboard members) * monthly meetings with key contributors on product plans (kind of like our current monthly adboard meetings) I have my doubts if the sponsors are interested in this, and might also be not that easy to setup * annual face-to-face meetings with other advisory board members Probably best to do something around GUADEC. You invite them a day earlier (travel on their own cost) and have a meeting plus dinner (dinner on cost of the foundation). Furthermore you can explain them what the foundation has been doing and what the plans are. Furthermore you could have some key contributors present explaining directions and to whom the sponsors can ask questions. * travel vouchers for x number of employees to attend GUADEC or hackfests I don't see why we would ask them for sponsoring if afterwards we give the money (or at least a signifcant part of it) back * hackfest sponsorship (would add $5K to the fee and would guarentee sponsorship of one) Good idea * hackfest sponsorship opportunity (we'd invite them to sponsor them as they came up) * GUADEC sponsorship I think it's best to organize big events like this seperate and work with seperate sponsors. I think it has worked out so far. Furthermore leaving it as is gives you more flexibility if you want to organize guadec together with akademy * logo (in different sizes) on web site Should be for every sponsor. Premium sponsors at the top * blurb on gnome.org website I suggest we have a tab saying sponsors on gnome.org site which lists all sponsors and why they sponsor GNOME * interview of company employee on planet gnome * interview of company employee in GNOME Journal * GNOME related article in GNOME Journal (cannot be an ad, topic must be pre-approved) Good idea * ad on gnome.org website I think that's covered with the sponsorship page * a mentor from the Board of Directors or community Could be an option if they want it. * access to the GNOME Foundation Executive Director Don't they have this already? * on-site presentations from key GNOME contributors (topics to be determined) If they are willing to pay travel+lodging I think it's not too difficult to find volunteers * presentation at GUADEC Can't everybody already do that if they have the right topic * weekly updates on top bug They can already subscribe to bugzilla * others?? To summarize my thoughts on Premium sponsorship are the following Cost: Extra 10K$ per year Perks: 1) One sponsored hackfest of 5K$ 2) Yearly meeting at
What about having a Support GNOME menu item in the System menu of gnome-panel
Hi, This will be a menu that many people running a GNOME desktop will see. There is already an item About GNOME in that menu. My proposal is to have a Support GNOME item below About GNOME. Clicking on it will open the browser and go to www.gnome.org/friends I know that in About GNOME there is a text link to Friends of GNOME but I think it's very unlikely that somebody will click on that. What do you think of this? I can make the patch and if we want to do this it probably would be nice to have a nice icon (Andreas??) Jaap -- blog: http://jaap.haitsma.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Special Philanthropist thingy
Hi, I've just pushed a change to http://www.gnome.org/friends that says that there is a special prize for the next philanthropist We should make sure that we remove the text as soon as we get the philanthropist. Otherwise we might disappoint somebody or behdad has to start mass production ;-). Who is getting the paypal notifications? Jaap On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 22:28, Paul Cutlerpcut...@foresightlinux.org wrote: I think that's an excellent idea, especially so we get a taker before GUADEC. Unfortunately I don't have time to update the site myself right now. Paul On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Behdad Esfahbod beh...@behdad.org wrote: Hi, What do people responsible for FoG website think about updating it to reflect the prize we have now for the next Philanthropist donation? http://mces.blogspot.com/2009/06/love-gnome-show-your-support.html behdad ___ gnome-web-list mailing list gnome-web-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list ___ gnome-web-list mailing list gnome-web-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-web-list -- blog: http://jaap.haitsma.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Improving the Friends of GNOME donation pages
Any progress with the sysadmin team on this? Having piwik installed will be instrumental for improving the GNOME website Jaap On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 09:17, Patrick Feyins...@nachtarbeiter.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06.05.2009 07:34, Stormy Peters wrote: Is there a better list to ask for volunteers for this? Maybe the web list or the gnome hackers list? I can set it up for you, if you want. Piwik needs a database on a MySQL server and a web server with PHP5 support. Do we have that? If so, it probably comes down to trust (i.e. do you trust me enough to give me access to the server). If we do not have that, we should discuss with the sysadmin team, if it is feasible to set it up. Or we could use my Piwik instance for tracking, but that would be the same as if you went down the Google path. :-) Patrick -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkoBOWgACgkQFBnImAM5roFnfQCfVJAdb/HFRxW/pZeBKM4J8Agm tgAAn3cAgXyS7ocxJvg5UvX3gUaRaRz+ =8kUk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- blog: http://jaap.haitsma.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Friends of GNOME data
Hi Stormy, Great news!!! I downloaded the spreadsheet and had a look at it. Couple of comments/remarks 1) In May we received $7,341 and not $6,883. So even better In the DSUM and DCOUNT formulas your database was not set large enough. Furthermore column H Average donation without subscriber was not calculated correctly, because you kept the revenue of the subscribers in. I took the spreadsheet and reworked it a bit * Gave it some colors * Gave it freeze panes * Reworked the DCOUNT and DSUM formulas a bit such that they refer to fixed cells. This makes is less prone to copy paste mistakes * Finalized the DCOUNT and DSUM formulas for the rest of 2009. 2010 should be pretty simple to do now because you can copy paste 2009 and make a few small changes with find and replace * Added a couple of more columns You can download my version from: http://ftp.haitsma.org/GNOME-Donations.ods 2) We can pay less at paypal Paypal is giving a lower rate to 501 (c)3 non profits. They charge 2.2% + 0.30$ per transaction for these organisations See: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/Marketing/merchant/PayPalNonProfits-outside#pricing We seem to pay more. See http://ftp.haitsma.org/GNOME-Donations-Paypal.ods I've added column M which calculates the cost of 2.2% + 0.30$. You see that over the years we could have saved almost 600$. So probably good to ask paypal to get 501 (c) 3 rate 3) How come that in February the number of Monthly donors went down from 51 to 10? Seems really weird. Did many people decide they did not want to be a monthly donor? 4) The gnome foundation blog should in my opinion have a Support GNOME badge On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 18:24, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: The new data is on the wiki. May was an awesome month! Behdad is blogging about it this week. Stormy On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I just realized that my Friends of GNOME update from last month never went through to the list. So I put this month's update in the wiki and on the Foundation blog. I created a Friends of GNOME wiki page to track tasks and goals: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME Here's the raw data from Friends of GNOME donations in a spreadsheet: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=donations-metrics.ods I posted a couple of the graphs on the Foundation blog: http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/05/04/friends-of-gnome-update/ Stormy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- blog: http://jaap.haitsma.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Google Adwords Application for Review (WAS Re: Google Adsense versus Adwords)
Your proposal sounds fine for me. Maybe instead of specific names like gimp use the general program name like photo editing Jaap On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 20:54, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Any feedback or input? I'm going to submit this tomorrow. (Probably with some final word smithing.) Stormy On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: So I think GNOME Marketing can come up with Google Adwords programs that make sense. (Probably not get gnome but looking at the top google keywords with gnome in them, I think there's opportunity.) I'm filling out the application and would welcome any help. Explain how you expect Google AdWords advertising will contribute to your organization. (Please limit your response to 500 characters.) The GNOME Foundation provides a free desktop accessible to everyone. Our goal is to make sure everyone can use technology regardless of language, physical ability or ability to pay. We have successfully reached out to developers and to open source fans, but we'd like to reach more of the non-developer public. Who is your target audience for online advertising? (Please limit your response to 150 characters.) People looking for technology solutions. They might be people looking for photo editing software like inkscape and gimp. They might be looking for office like applications like abiword and gnumeric or for small business finance solutions like gnucash. We also want to be sure people with questions about GNOME technologies can find us. Please provide a sample of an ad you might run through Google Grants. Reviewing the Google Grants information sheet will help you submit a strong application by following our Editorial Guidelines, and showing an understanding of the way the AdWords program works. Line 1: 25 character headline Line 2: 35 character limit Line 3: 35 character limit Line 4: display URL (35 character limit) FYI, these need to be mission based: Example of Mission-Based Ad: Shop and Fight AIDS Our Red Ribbon Collection has Unique Gifts for a Great Cause. www.yourcharity.org Example of Ad Not Based on Mission: Uniquie Gifts for All Children's books, tee shirts more Shop online. Save time and money. www.yourcharity.org Here's my take, not sure if it's too product focused. I think we should target products that also run on Windows as many, many of the people doing searches will be Windows users. Free photo editing software Use free and open source technology to edit your photos. Supported by a strong community of developers. Open standards. Technology you can use. www.gimp.org Free home and small business finance software Don't get locked in to proprietary formats. Free and open source technology to manage your finances securily. Used by many nonprofit organizations. www.gnucash.org We could also do the example one targeted at people looking for accessibility solutions. I need help writing that one though. Please provide a list of keyword / keyword combinations that you feel are relevant to your organization. Viewing our keyword matching demo will help you choose appropriate keywords for your campaign by understanding our broad match keyword default and other matching options. gnome, gimp, adobe, gnucash, quicken, (some kind of alternate keyboard and mice keywords), (languages that Microsoft doesn't support), desktop, linux, finance software, desktop software, gnome merchandise, gnome tshirt, ... help? Stormy On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Luis Villa l...@tieguy.org wrote: I think last time we discussed this (2005, acc. to my archives) everyone involved seem to think it was a fine idea, though I seem to recall that without a single place to 'get gnome' like you can 'get firefox' there wasn't much clarity as to what we should tell people to do once they get to us. (Adwords have also come up in past in the context of google grants- did that not happen for some reason?) Luis On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: When I asked Google about an adsense account (which enables you to put Google ads on your website and get compensated for them) they mentioned the AdWords grant program to me. AdWords lets you advertise your site via google ads on other people's sites, including Google Search. The AdWords grant program offers free AdWords accounts to nonprofits: (You get a daily budget of $329.) http://www.google.com/grants/ However, you can't have an AdSense account too. Since we are conflicted about ads, and much more likely to reach agreement on specific company ads than general google ads, I recommend we apply for a Google AdWords grant. If we get it, is there anyone with experience in AdWords, SEO or advertising that would like to help run it? (The application itself requires just a few things like target audience and
Re: wgo - Top Level Pages
Maybe providing a tab sponsors. This gives sponsors more visibility Jaap On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 16:30, Paul Cutler pcut...@foresightlinux.org wrote: Lucas had a good idea in IRC today. With tomorrow's deadline of having recommendations for the pages on the new wgo, I'm going to send out some separate emails today around each top level page recapping what we have, providing a link to the wgo, and ask for feedback. The top level pages were agreed to when the wgo revamp started, more information is at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation Currently, we have these top level pages for our first release with GNOME 2.28: * Get Started * Get Involved * About These top level pages will be added in the next development cycle, along with GNOME 2.30: * Take the Tour * Products * Success Stories Please add your comments and feedback regarding the overall top level navigation. Thanks. Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: recruiting sponsors
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:34, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: We might follow the GIMP KDE models, and simply have a page where we list benefactors of the foundation, separately from the advisory board. Yes, that could work, they might ask for having a logo plus their name in the thank you pages instead of just their name. Just an idea. This is what the GIMP has done in the past (I don't know if it's still maintained): http://gimp.org/donating/sponsors.html We had guidelines on the maximum size of logos per level, and the more people gave the bigger their logo, and the higher they were on the page. Individual donors also got their name embossed rendered with script-fu in a big font if they gave over a certain level. I've suggested to have a sponsor tab on the main gnome page http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2009-May/msg00039.html I think that brings value to our corporate sponsors. Now it is quite hidden that they are sponsoring GNOME Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: recruiting sponsors
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 22:09, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Diego Escalante Urrelo wrote: OTOH, I have wonder if it would be fair to our current Advisory Board members to give other companies paying less the same marketing benefit, can we consider that the seat in AB is worth -say- $4000 or should we limit the marketing benefits of our possible smaller companies? You want to lower ad board fees? $10K is a ridiculously small amount of money for many of the companies funding the foundation. At this price level, we already have a small budget. We might want to consider *increasing* ad board fees, especially since I have the impression that this year we are giving good value for money in terms of networking and feedback access. Now there are 2 possible fees 5000$ if you have =50 employees 1$ if you have 50 employees You could think of a 1 or 2 more levels here. Because a company of 51 employees is quite different to 5000 employees. So what about 1000$ 10 employees 2500$ 25 employees 5000$ 100 employees 1$ 1000 employees 2$ 1000 employees If the current sponsors agree to this (I think it's very important that they agree) the income would go up significantly because GNOME has quite some sponsors with more than a 1000 employees (HP, Google, Intel, Motorola, Nokia, Novell, Redhat). Furthermore on the low end we also introduce more options. For the big companies to pay more we need to come up with a plan on how to spend the money. A full time sysadmin helping to setup stuff comes first to mind, but then there is quite some money left. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: recruiting sponsors
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 17:54, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Thanks for the feedback I've gotten for this off list. An idea that's come up several times is financially compensating individuals and companies that bring additional companies to the GNOME community. While we want companies to come join the community and participate, regardless of whether or not they sponsor the Foundation financially, it might be worth rewarding people for bringing financial contributions. What would people think of a 10% finders fee for individuals or companies that brought in sponsors? Maybe there's some guidelines like must give at least $5,000. I don't like the finders fee that much. If we want to offer something it should be more in the spirit of free beer. So maybe a travel cheque that can be used to visit GUADEC. So in the proposed case of 10% and 5000$ it would be a 500$ travel cheque that can only be used to visit GUADEC or some other GNOME conference Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Google Adsense versus Adwords
+1 from me as well. I've setup an adwords campaigns for my company a couple a years a ago. It's really easy to start a campaign. The trick is getting the right keywords. GNOME would be a bad keyword because you already get at the top of the search list. However on free desktop GNOME is not on the first page. The best thing I think is to start setting it up and analyze the results we get Some ideas for more keywords: free antivirus free windows Stormy, If you can share some of the data you get in the account then I'm sure the community can help out Jaap On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 15:10, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: When I asked Google about an adsense account (which enables you to put Google ads on your website and get compensated for them) they mentioned the AdWords grant program to me. AdWords lets you advertise your site via google ads on other people's sites, including Google Search. The AdWords grant program offers free AdWords accounts to nonprofits: (You get a daily budget of $329.) http://www.google.com/grants/ However, you can't have an AdSense account too. Since we are conflicted about ads, and much more likely to reach agreement on specific company ads than general google ads, I recommend we apply for a Google AdWords grant. If we get it, is there anyone with experience in AdWords, SEO or advertising that would like to help run it? (The application itself requires just a few things like target audience and sample campaign slogans that we'd need to think about.) Thoughts? All for applying for a free AdWords account? Stormy On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, Stormy Peters wrote: I agree that if it's even a percentage of that, it might be worth it. What would people think of trying it out for a couple of months? We could start with Google ads to see how well ads work and once we have an idea of how much to expect, we could solicit ads directly from companies. One important thing to bear in mind (and I'm digging into second-hand memory banks here) is whether this would affect our relationship with the various companies who donate bandwidth hosting services. I don't think OSU OSL has any issue with this, but IIRC, hosting in Red Hat's colo had a no ads condition attached. Worth investigating, at least - if we end up with $150K advertising revenues a year and an extra $300K hosting costs to pay, it would be a bad deal. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Promoting the Support GNOME badges
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 21:49, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi Stormy, can you promote the new badges http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html on your blog and send an email to the gnome-announce list or so? I think that way we have most effect. You could also try to contact some friendly journalists that want to run a story on the Friend of GNOME program I will do that. Blog and contact journalists. I will probably wait to contact journalists until we have the ruler up and May numbers in. (As May numbers will be good.) We should make a calendar and have people regularly blog about Friends of GNOME. The week of: May 18th - Stormy May 25th - Jun 1st - Jun 8th - Jun 15th- Jun 22nd It doesn't have to be anything long. Volunteers? I don't mind writing something about it, but I just started my blog and it's not on planet.gnome.org and number of visitors per day is below 10. Other ideas for promoting the badges? We should all put them on our websites! Should we also put a badge on the GNOME main page? If yes, where should we put it on the page. I think the main web page and the Contribute page (http://www.gnome.org/community/) . I'm not sure where it should go ... thoughts from others? On the contribute page it could go on the sidebar. On the main page we could change the section What is GNOME slightly and add a button in there. Agree? Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button Take 3
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 23:24, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se wrote: Hi Jaap! Here are the banners: http://www.andreasn.se/diverse/temp/new-fog-banners.tar.gz Used the same sizes as Spread Firefox [1]. 1. http://www.spreadfirefox.com/affiliates/homepage#getbuttons - Andreas Just pushed them and the new promote page to git Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Promoting the Support GNOME badges
Hi Stormy, can you promote the new badges http://www.gnome.org/friends/promote.html on your blog and send an email to the gnome-announce list or so? I think that way we have most effect. You could also try to contact some friendly journalists that want to run a story on the Friend of GNOME program Other ideas for promoting the badges? Should we also put a badge on the GNOME main page? If yes, where should we put it on the page. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button Take 3
Thanks. I pushed the change and I put a button on my blog http://jaap.haitsma.org Any idea when you have more buttons? Jaap On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 00:43, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se wrote: Oh, sorry for that. Was intending to reply yesterday, but then I got distracted by other stuff. I think it looks great, go ahead! - Andreas Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Hi Andreas, Nobody replied so far. Since you've been the most vocal. What's your opinion should I push it like this to git, or do you still want to change stuff? Regards, Jaap -- Forwarded message -- From: Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org Date: Mon, May 11, 2009 at 22:53 Subject: Re: Become a friend of GNOME button To: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org Thanks for your comments and suggestions. Take 3 is up on http://gnome.haitsma.org/friends/ 1) I've change spread.html to promote.html 2) Changed the text of that page in line with comments on the list 3) Removed the GNOME lover button from that page 4) Removed the support button on the main page. Now there is just text at the top of the right bar. Such that it is not so conspicuous. I believe we should put a link there. Let me try to explain when many people start clicking on the support buttons on blogs they arrive at the donation page. They might not want to donate but might want the badge. So they should at least see a link to the button after the page has loaded. Andreas do you agree? If we are in agreement I'd like to push the changes to git Before starting to promote these buttons it would be good to have more badges of different sizes. Andreas do you have any timeline on that? Regards, Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Having a more prominent place for corporate sponsors
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 15:44, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I can certainly help with text, but I'm thinking our community members that work for those companies might be the best people to write it ... If people even send me bullet points or notes, I can help write it up and then we can send to the right people for approval. Volunteers? Probably best to ask on the desktop devel list (more people working at these companies are on that list) or contact some people you know at these companies directly Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button
Thanks for your comments and suggestions. Take 3 is up on http://gnome.haitsma.org/friends/ 1) I've change spread.html to promote.html 2) Changed the text of that page in line with comments on the list 3) Removed the GNOME lover button from that page 4) Removed the support button on the main page. Now there is just text at the top of the right bar. Such that it is not so conspicuous. I believe we should put a link there. Let me try to explain when many people start clicking on the support buttons on blogs they arrive at the donation page. They might not want to donate but might want the badge. So they should at least see a link to the button after the page has loaded. Andreas do you agree? If we are in agreement I'd like to push the changes to git Before starting to promote these buttons it would be good to have more badges of different sizes. Andreas do you have any timeline on that? Regards, Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Making clear that donations are One time
Hi, Currently it's not completely clear on http://www.gnome.org/friends/ that the donations of 25-500 500-1200 and 1200+ are one time. I suggest to put (One time) behind the option just like we have (Monthly) behind adopt a hacker Agree? If so I can make the change Jaap diff --git a/www.gnome.org/friends/index.wml b/www.gnome.org/friends/index.wml index 4d7df0b..0efd9d4 100644 --- a/www.gnome.org/friends/index.wml +++ b/www.gnome.org/friends/index.wml @@ -64,20 +64,20 @@ in 2008 we were able to: div class=box input type=radio name=aidtype value=associate img src=images/mousepad.png -h3Associate $25-500/h3 +h3Associate $25-500 (One time)/h3 strongYou get:/strong A GNOME mouse pad, a set of stickers, and recognition of your contribution. /div div class=box input type=radio name=aidtype value=sponsor img src=images/t-shirt.png -h3Sponsor $500-1200/h3 +h3Sponsor $500-1200 (One time)/h3 strongYou get:/strong A GNOME coffee mug, a GNOME t-shirt, and recognition of your contribution./div div class=box input type=radio name=aidtype value=philanthropist img src=images/poster.png -h3Philanthropist $1200 or more/h3 +h3Philanthropist $1200 or more (One time)/h3 strongYou get:/strong A framed print of GNOME foot signed by the GNOME Board of Directors and recognition of your contribution./div br/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Making clear that donations are One time
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 16:50, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se wrote: Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: Currently it's not completely clear on http://www.gnome.org/friends/ that the donations of 25-500 500-1200 and 1200+ are one time. I suggest to put (One time) behind the option just like we have (Monthly) behind adopt a hacker I'm always a bit hesitant to adding even more information to the front page, but considering we really, really won't people to back out of giving a one time donation because they believe all the sums are monthly, I think it's a fair price. So +1 from me, please commit! On a related note, it also says it's a one time donation on the second page, but the text seems to be cut off a bit. It currently says for a one time [ xxx ] where it should be for a one time donation of [ xxx ]. Bonus points if you fix that while you're on it! I went for the bonus points. Just pushed the changes to git. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button
/helpout (4) Making an announcement of the new page (GNOME's main mailing list or a blog on planet.gnome.org http://planet.gnome.org). I guess not many people within the GNOME community know these badges exist. (5) Adding these badges where we can now: in the sidebar of live.gnome.org http://live.gnome.org, in a new sidebar of the GNOME Journal, in the footer of planet.gnome.org http://planet.gnome.org, in the footer of gnomesupport.org/forums/ http://gnomesupport.org/forums/, in the footer of bugzilla.gnome.org http://bugzilla.gnome.org, etc.. I've added the Support GNOME badge to the footer of GNOME Journal. Later, we might be able to set up a separate (dynamic) infrastructure to serve these ads. Then, we could then switch announcements, maybe even track reactions. But there's no need to wait for that. Best regards, Claus I will work on Spread GNOME type page over lunch today and submit a patch we can review that uses some of these ideas. Paul On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org mailto:sto...@gnome.org wrote: I agree we need Friends of GNOME more prominently on the website. I think we will get some of this when we get the ruler that shows donations towards our goal. We do have badges: http://www.gnome.org/friends/thank-you.html. And Paul Cutler wrote some html that shows code for embedding it in your website, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2009-April/msg00019.html. (We still need someone with web access to incorporate that into the website.) Best, Stormy On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org mailto:j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, What about friend of GNOME button that links to http://www.gnome.org/friends/ which people can put on their site/blog? Furthermore the button can be used on the GNOME site. Currently I only see a news story about somewhere down on the main page so it does not really catch attention of many people. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Having a more prominent place for corporate sponsors
Stormy, Giving this some more thought I actually think that the only a story why they support GNOME is better. Most of these companies are well known. We can have the logos link to the companies website when people want to know more. Getting these support texts from the respective companies can be cumbersome. Therefore I think it's better if you (because I guess you know why they give the money) or somebody else could write some draft text from them, which they can review. Regards, Jaap On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 06:30, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, If you can get text from the companies I can make the sponsor page and the tab at www.gnome.org I suggest per company we have Logo + description company + Supporting GNOME because . Jaap On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 15:23, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I think having a why they support GNOME section would be great. Stormy On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Hi, Currently I only see corporate sponsors on foundation.gnome.org. Wouldn't they deserve a sponsors tab on the www.gnome.org. Instead of the logos we could also ask them for a small description of their company and why they support gnome Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 17:33, Paul Cutler pcut...@foresightlinux.org wrote: Jaap, thanks for doing this. When I do a git rebase, I see the spread.html file in my working directory, but I don't see it available at http://www.gnome.org/friends/spread.html. Anyone know why? Yes, because you have to do a git push instead of git rebase git push pushes your commits to the gnome git repository git rebase pulls changes from the gnome git repo. So nothing is changing there Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button
I have git access, so if you send the patch I can review it and push it if people like the result. Can you sent the patch and the resulting html file to the list. Thanks Jaap On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 21:33, Paul Cutler pcut...@foresightlinux.org wrote: Thanks Jaap - I don't have git access, which is why I didn't push - I thought you might have based on an earlier email. Paul On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 17:33, Paul Cutler pcut...@foresightlinux.org wrote: Jaap, thanks for doing this. When I do a git rebase, I see the spread.html file in my working directory, but I don't see it available at http://www.gnome.org/friends/spread.html. Anyone know why? Yes, because you have to do a git push instead of git rebase git push pushes your commits to the gnome git repository git rebase pulls changes from the gnome git repo. So nothing is changing there Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 17:08, Claus Schwarm clschw...@googlemail.com wrote: I may be wrong, but it seems to me, Jaap has something different in mind. What about: (1) Moving Paul's embedding code to a separate page, say wgo/friends/spread.html. At least the last two badges could also be used by everybody who wants to support the friends of GNOME program. (2) Offering different image sizes (standard ad sizes) so that they are more prominent and fit into other people's layout. (3) Linking the friends/spread.html page from the main friends of gnome page: Are you running a blog or website? You can help GNOME also by spreading the word about the Friends of GNOME program. (4) Making an announcement of the new page (GNOME's main mailing list or a blog on planet.gnome.org). I guess not many people within the GNOME community know these badges exist. (5) Adding these badges where we can now: in the sidebar of live.gnome.org, in a new sidebar of the GNOME Journal, in the footer of planet.gnome.org, in the footer of gnomesupport.org/forums/, in the footer of bugzilla.gnome.org, etc.. Later, we might be able to set up a separate (dynamic) infrastructure to serve these ads. Then, we could then switch announcements, maybe even track reactions. But there's no need to wait for that. Best regards, Claus Claus you read my mind I've now committed the code of Paul with a couple of minor changes in the html to git. The page http://www.gnome.org/friends/thank-you.html should show up soon I guess. I don't know how often the website is synced from git (Anybody knows??) One thing I changed is the alt tag of the image. I've put there Become a friend of GNOME. That way if you google on that exact string you can get an indication of how many badges are on the web. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 19:52, Paul Cutler pcut...@foresightlinux.org wrote: Jaap - thanks, I did not know this, first time I've done any work in gnomeweb. I'll take a look at the code changes - is it safe to assume you fixed the code and committed? Yes Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button
I've now committed the code of Paul with a couple of minor changes in the html to git. The page http://www.gnome.org/friends/thank-you.html should show up soon I guess. I don't know how often the website is synced from git (Anybody knows??) OK it's synced up by now. I notice that there is a small dotted line under each of the buttons http://www.gnome.org/friends/thank-you.html This is caused by the css files that the GNOME website uses. You also have it below the image on http://www.gnome.org. I've now asked [1] on the gnome-web list if there is a global way to remove these dotted lines. If not I'll add some custom CSS to the thank-you page Jaap [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-web-list/2009-May/msg00039.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Having a more prominent place for corporate sponsors
Hi, Currently I only see corporate sponsors on foundation.gnome.org. Wouldn't they deserve a sponsors tab on the www.gnome.org. Instead of the logos we could also ask them for a small description of their company and why they support gnome Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Putting ads on GNOME websites
Hi, I was reading that the GNOME foundation is in need of some more funding [1]. What about putting advertisements on the GNOME websites? According to this [2] www.gnome.org could have an annual revenue of 145K$. Maybe that is a bit to optimistic but even if it is only 10% of that amount it is still a considerable amount of money that can be made every year. What do you think? Jaap [1] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-April/msg00058.html [2] http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Become a friend of GNOME button
Hi, What about friend of GNOME button that links to http://www.gnome.org/friends/ which people can put on their site/blog? Furthermore the button can be used on the GNOME site. Currently I only see a news story about somewhere down on the main page so it does not really catch attention of many people. Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Become a friend of GNOME button
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 07:41, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: I agree we need Friends of GNOME more prominently on the website. I think we will get some of this when we get the ruler that shows donations towards our goal. We do have badges: http://www.gnome.org/friends/thank-you.html. And Paul Cutler wrote some html that shows code for embedding it in your website, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2009-April/msg00019.html. (We still need someone with web access to incorporate that into the website.) You just need access to git to commit the changes. I have git access so I am happy to do it if you sent me the code. (I can't get the code from the link you sent because it's not shown as an attachment but inlined somehow) Jaap -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
