Re: community managers
Hi Dave, On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:38 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: I think that as a project, we have had trouble communicating our vision, because as a project we are not sure what it is. There is a part of the project that has a very clear idea of their vision, but that vision has either not been clearly expressed, or what has been expressed has not got clear support from the community of contributors in the project. For instance, the insistence that theming will damage our brand, or that Cinnamon is not GNOME 3, has led to missed opportunities for the GNOME project, and has not got grass roots support among the GNOME community (and I'm not talking about users here, I'm talking about contributors - developers, translators, user group co-ordinators, and marketers). Let's be clear then. Cinnamon is not GNOME 3. The discussion of brand was in relation to the stability of extensions and the impact on the user experience - and was taken out of context. Neither of these have led to missed opportunities. Continuing to misrepresent or misunderstand what we are trying to do and trying to say doesn't help us communicate our vision, does it? Jon -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Summary of responses to round one questions about 3.0
Hi Jason, On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: ... Caveats: Seth, who we had discussed on our conference call in the context of the Pooper and the public image of Gnome 3.0, was one of the respondents. Other than confirming that he saw Shell as 3.0 and not mentioning *any* of the ideas in his blog posts, his response was incomprehensible, post-modern evasion. I only bring this up because I think that it's safe to say at this point that none of Seth's ideas have any other champions. Have to say, this is in very poor taste, for a number of reasons. The least of which is that you indicated that the responses would not be shared. For what it is worth, I happen to hold Seth's opinions and ideas in very high regard. And he brought a lot of both to the hackfest. There's just something kinda not cool about the way you've characterized his input into your process. No one from Shell replied. I begged them to in the middle of the week but it hasn't happened. I asked again today and Owen said that they weren't planning on answering our four questions anyway but that he would follow up to this list with a separate post. Jon McCann expressed resentment that we even asked anyone these questions. I have logs of the entire conversations regarding this topic should anyone care to revisit it but I think it best to just move on. For the record, not quite resentment. Basically said two things: 1. polling hackfest participants is not a good way to try to understand what we are planning and going to do for GNOME 3 2. Owen would respond in short order with a more instructive roadmap (he has already done so) That said, the somewhat accusatory tone of your questionnaire didn't really give me a warm fuzzy and make me want to jump on board. And I have no idea what the purpose of the above paragraph is. Anyway, reasonable folks, let's all work together to market GNOME 3, shall we? Perhaps with a little more tact. Thanks, Jon -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
