Re: Epiphany Homepage
On 10.09.2006 00:32, Quim Gil wrote: > Mmm probably the Epiphany developers will have an opinion about this. > Why don't you submit a request for enhancement? > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=epiphany Good point. I've filed a bug/feature request: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355251 > I use Google with Epiphany all the time, but I never need the Google > homepage to do that, since the Google search is integrated in the URI > entry field. Having the google.com as default page is like a redundancy. Right. ... > In any case, the Marketing Team is not going to decide anything without > the Epiphany developers, hence the recommendation to submit a bug/RFE. Absolutely. Let's see what the developers say. Max -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Epiphany Homepage
Mmm probably the Epiphany developers will have an opinion about this. Why don't you submit a request for enhancement? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=epiphany I use Google with Epiphany all the time, but I never need the Google homepage to do that, since the Google search is integrated in the URI entry field. Having the google.com as default page is like a redundancy. This could be a good default: http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/ Or better, the Epiphany product page once we have product pages in wgo 2.18. It is a one go default page, yes. But anyway, changing the default page is one of the first things user do, and it takes one minute. In any case, the Marketing Team is not going to decide anything without the Epiphany developers, hence the recommendation to submit a bug/RFE. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Epiphany Homepage
There is also financial part of that, as Google gives some amount of money for every query done from Firefox start page (having said that if you want to support Firefox do some search through start page). I'd rather GNOME not to have such connections with companies product-wise. For firefox, Google is directly related with their working area, and having such a mutual connection put lots of power into Mozilla's hand. I doubt that that is valid for GNOME. So either having a search engine based start page, or directly pointing to their page is not a good option. Maybe epiphany include a basic what's new page with every release an point that location locally. That's what Fedora does with default home pages. > On 9/9/06, Joachim Noreiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> --- Luca Cavalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 17:33 +0100, Joachim Noreiko >> > wrote: >> > > > Another option could be to create a >> > > > Gnome start page just >> > > > for the purpose of using it as home page in >> > > > Epiphany. >> > > >> > > Hmmm... maybe. >> > > But don't most distros overwrite that anyway? >> > Ubuntu >> > > certainly provides a home page (not sure if it >> > puts it >> > > into Epi as well as Firefox, but logically it >> > should). >> > > >> > > I don't think it's worth the effort of something >> > else >> > > to maintain on our site. >> > > >> > >> > Well, just because Ubuntu, or any other distro, >> > override GNOME defaults, >> > it is not a good reason to not have them. This was >> > the same for splash >> > screen (I can remember a discussion about that a >> > couple of releases >> > ago). Not all distros overwrite GNOME defaults and >> > not all users install >> > precompiled packages. GNOME should take care also of >> > these users. >> > Ciao, >> >> Have I said before how much I dislike the distro model >> and how much difficulty it causes us? ... oh yeah, >> nearly every day ;) >> >> Anyway, yes, point taken. >> >> Can we simply use a part of the w.g.o site already >> planned for in the proposed new structure? >> If not, would this home page be something a visitor to >> w.g.o can access? ie, is it something we must add to >> the structure, or does it remain separate? And what's >> a good stable URL? > > It blows my mind that anyone would think about replacing the most > useful homepage on the internet (google) with a page that will be > useful to our users *once*, in the *best case* scenario. > > Now, if someone talked to google about creating something like: > http://www.google.com/firefox > > That might be both useful to our users and good for our marketing. > That probably needs to be something discussed carefully with the board > before it happens, though. > > Luis > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Epiphany Homepage
On 9/9/06, Joachim Noreiko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Luca Cavalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 17:33 +0100, Joachim Noreiko > > wrote: > > > > Another option could be to create a > > > > Gnome start page just > > > > for the purpose of using it as home page in > > > > Epiphany. > > > > > > Hmmm... maybe. > > > But don't most distros overwrite that anyway? > > Ubuntu > > > certainly provides a home page (not sure if it > > puts it > > > into Epi as well as Firefox, but logically it > > should). > > > > > > I don't think it's worth the effort of something > > else > > > to maintain on our site. > > > > > > > Well, just because Ubuntu, or any other distro, > > override GNOME defaults, > > it is not a good reason to not have them. This was > > the same for splash > > screen (I can remember a discussion about that a > > couple of releases > > ago). Not all distros overwrite GNOME defaults and > > not all users install > > precompiled packages. GNOME should take care also of > > these users. > > Ciao, > > Have I said before how much I dislike the distro model > and how much difficulty it causes us? ... oh yeah, > nearly every day ;) > > Anyway, yes, point taken. > > Can we simply use a part of the w.g.o site already > planned for in the proposed new structure? > If not, would this home page be something a visitor to > w.g.o can access? ie, is it something we must add to > the structure, or does it remain separate? And what's > a good stable URL? It blows my mind that anyone would think about replacing the most useful homepage on the internet (google) with a page that will be useful to our users *once*, in the *best case* scenario. Now, if someone talked to google about creating something like: http://www.google.com/firefox That might be both useful to our users and good for our marketing. That probably needs to be something discussed carefully with the board before it happens, though. Luis -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Epiphany Homepage
Maybe an Epiphany specific what's new page might be more appropriate. Although the start release page sounds good too. Point is that if a user switches from a distro's default (say Firefox), he'd want to see what this new browser his friend proposed, has to offer. Thats why I suggest something in the form of: http://www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/whatsnew/ or something, with all the latest epiphany bling bling. On 9/9/06, Luca Cavalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 17:33 +0100, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > > Another option could be to create a > > > Gnome start page just > > > for the purpose of using it as home page in > > > Epiphany. > > > > Hmmm... maybe. > > But don't most distros overwrite that anyway? Ubuntu > > certainly provides a home page (not sure if it puts it > > into Epi as well as Firefox, but logically it should). > > > > I don't think it's worth the effort of something else > > to maintain on our site. > > > > Well, just because Ubuntu, or any other distro, override GNOME defaults, > it is not a good reason to not have them. This was the same for splash > screen (I can remember a discussion about that a couple of releases > ago). Not all distros overwrite GNOME defaults and not all users install > precompiled packages. GNOME should take care also of these users. > Ciao, > > Luca > > -- > marketing-list mailing list > marketing-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list > -- Panos Laganakos -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Epiphany Homepage
--- Luca Cavalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 17:33 +0100, Joachim Noreiko > wrote: > > > Another option could be to create a > > > Gnome start page just > > > for the purpose of using it as home page in > > > Epiphany. > > > > Hmmm... maybe. > > But don't most distros overwrite that anyway? > Ubuntu > > certainly provides a home page (not sure if it > puts it > > into Epi as well as Firefox, but logically it > should). > > > > I don't think it's worth the effort of something > else > > to maintain on our site. > > > > Well, just because Ubuntu, or any other distro, > override GNOME defaults, > it is not a good reason to not have them. This was > the same for splash > screen (I can remember a discussion about that a > couple of releases > ago). Not all distros overwrite GNOME defaults and > not all users install > precompiled packages. GNOME should take care also of > these users. > Ciao, Have I said before how much I dislike the distro model and how much difficulty it causes us? ... oh yeah, nearly every day ;) Anyway, yes, point taken. Can we simply use a part of the w.g.o site already planned for in the proposed new structure? If not, would this home page be something a visitor to w.g.o can access? ie, is it something we must add to the structure, or does it remain separate? And what's a good stable URL? ___ Does your mail provider give you FREE antivirus protection? Get Yahoo! Mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Epiphany Homepage
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 17:33 +0100, Joachim Noreiko wrote: > > Another option could be to create a > > Gnome start page just > > for the purpose of using it as home page in > > Epiphany. > > Hmmm... maybe. > But don't most distros overwrite that anyway? Ubuntu > certainly provides a home page (not sure if it puts it > into Epi as well as Firefox, but logically it should). > > I don't think it's worth the effort of something else > to maintain on our site. > Well, just because Ubuntu, or any other distro, override GNOME defaults, it is not a good reason to not have them. This was the same for splash screen (I can remember a discussion about that a couple of releases ago). Not all distros overwrite GNOME defaults and not all users install precompiled packages. GNOME should take care also of these users. Ciao, Luca -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Epiphany Homepage
--- Max Jonas Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but there's one thing that irritated me: The > Epiphany home page is > "http://www.google.com"; per default. > > Wouldn't it be better to set it to > "http://www.gnome.org/start/X.YY"; for > every release? No, because that's release notes. As is being pointed out in another thread right now, it's not very user-orientated. > Another option could be to create a > Gnome start page just > for the purpose of using it as home page in > Epiphany. Hmmm... maybe. But don't most distros overwrite that anyway? Ubuntu certainly provides a home page (not sure if it puts it into Epi as well as Firefox, but logically it should). I don't think it's worth the effort of something else to maintain on our site. ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Epiphany Homepage
Hi guys, I've just started Gnome 2.16 after 2 days of compiling. :) Looks great but there's one thing that irritated me: The Epiphany home page is "http://www.google.com"; per default. Wouldn't it be better to set it to "http://www.gnome.org/start/X.YY"; for every release? Another option could be to create a Gnome start page just for the purpose of using it as home page in Epiphany. My suggestion probably fits to the discussion regarding user-oriented release notes. Cheers! Max -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
