GNOME Marketing Team Meeting Today
The GNOME Marketing Team meeting is today! I double checked the time zones, and the meeting is at 22:00 GMT / 17:00 US EST. (Sorry about any confusion on the time zones). The agenda is here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings/14JAN2010Meeting We will meet in #marketing on GIMPNet IRC. See you there! Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Marketing Team Meeting Today
Hi Paul, Paul Cutler wrote: The GNOME Marketing Team meeting is today! I double checked the time zones, and the meeting is at 22:00 GMT / 17:00 US EST. (Sorry about any confusion on the time zones). The agenda is here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings/14JAN2010Meeting We will meet in #marketing on GIMPNet IRC. Why hold meetings at 23:00 CET and thus (pretty much) exclude European participation? I can understand that perhaps the marketing team is US-centric nowadays, but the meeting time isn't going to do anything to change that situation. I'm afraid I won't be able to attend at that stage - I'm up early on Friday need my beauty sleep. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Marketing Team Meeting Today
Hi Dave, On 01/14/2010 10:07 AM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Paul, Paul Cutler wrote: The GNOME Marketing Team meeting is today! I double checked the time zones, and the meeting is at 22:00 GMT / 17:00 US EST. (Sorry about any confusion on the time zones). The agenda is here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/MarketingTeamMeetings/14JAN2010Meeting We will meet in #marketing on GIMPNet IRC. Why hold meetings at 23:00 CET and thus (pretty much) exclude European participation? I can understand that perhaps the marketing team is US-centric nowadays, but the meeting time isn't going to do anything to change that situation. I'm afraid I won't be able to attend at that stage - I'm up early on Friday need my beauty sleep. Cheers, Dave. Dave - I sent out a Doodle link a week or two ago that had meeting times ranging over a 12 hour period over two weeks for potential meeting times. Out of the people who responded to the Doodle link, this was the time that worked best according to the survey. Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Marketing Team Meeting Today
Hi, Paul Cutler wrote: Dave - I sent out a Doodle link a week or two ago that had meeting times ranging over a 12 hour period over two weeks for potential meeting times. Out of the people who responded to the Doodle link, this was the time that worked best according to the survey. I did see that, but didn't see (in the doodle) a timezone. I see you followed up with a mail saying that these times were UTC-6 (presumably, your timezone? ;)) I didn't reply because, to be honest, I am at this stage an opportunist member of the team - when I have time, I pick a task (like loading contacts into the CRM) and have at it for an hour or two. I didn't know how much time I'd have this week, and I didn't want to become a blockage against having the meeting at a time that suited almost everyone else. Perhaps there are other opportunist attendees? People who don't feel prominent enough to manifest themselves vote for a time, but who might attend the meeting if it were at a convenient time for them? I notice that 4 of the 6 voters are based in the US - and Valessio Andreas apparently would have no trouble having the meeting at 3am local time for him (suggesting perhaps timezone issues there too?). In any case, I just wanted to point out what time it would be in my timezone when the meeting is on - but since I didn't vote, you're correct to say that I don't get much of a say. Might I suggest using UTC as the reference timezone next time, though, please? Thanks! Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Marketing Team Meeting Today
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 14.01.2010, 17:33 +0100 schrieb Dave Neary: I did see that, but didn't see (in the doodle) a timezone. I see you followed up with a mail saying that these times were UTC-6 (presumably, your timezone? ;)) Doodle supports timezones - could be used next time to avoid confusion. If we can get to regular dates, one thing to do might be to alternate time zones. With openSUSE we've done meetings at 12:00 and 16:00 UTC pretty regularly. Those times still aren't optimal for participants outside Europe and the Americas but most of our participants are in one or the other. Long-term, what tools (aside from the mailing list) can we use for more efficient collaboration? The more we can do that doesn't require real-time meetings, the better. (We should have occasional real-time meetings, but the times will never work for everyone.) Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME Marketing Team Meeting Today
Hi, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote: Long-term, what tools (aside from the mailing list) can we use for more efficient collaboration? The more we can do that doesn't require real-time meetings, the better. (We should have occasional real-time meetings, but the times will never work for everyone.) I've been thinking of what kind of organisations need communication like ours. The best I can come up with is globally distributed armed guerilla groups. Bear with me for a sec. Typically, there are 3 key problems that guerilla groups have: 1. Local recruitment 2. Global co-operation and co-ordination 3. Local independent action Local groups leverage globally visible events, both good (we struck an important blow for the cause) bad (the bad guys are conspiring against us) to recruit new members into local chapters. Some of these members get sent to different local chapters or to corporate based on their skillset, others stay local. Global groups co-ordinate the local groups from time to time, ask for manpower for certain operations, but basically set a strategic direction and are happy to recruit the jihadists who show the most potential in the local organisations for further training higher goals. And local groups are happy to have general direction set via regularly communicated messages, while maintaining total independence to grow, recruit act locally. Every now then, new local groups arise from nothing, and get co-opted into the global infrastructure through a network built on personal connections and confidence. Doesn't that sound like us? Anyway - just brainstorming on what kinds of structures have our problems, and how they've addressed them, to see if there's anything we can learn. This thought is still quite vague, not sure how valuable it is yet... let's see where the idea goes. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
