Re: Header design mock 11/10
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 16:27 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: The breakdown of the wgo site navigation is here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure This was actually agreed last cycle, and we're almost at the stage of writing the content. But if you feel we should do that, then I suppose we can. Nah, I don't really want to derail the process, I know the info architecture is a good way down the road now. (And it's not that I spotted any huge flaws in it, I was just curious, really.) Although I don't know if anyone other than you has the experience and the resources to do any card-sorting -- I for one wouldn't have a clue where to begin. It's easy enough to do-- infodesign.com.au has a nice one-page summary of card sorting and other common usability techniques: http://infodesign.com.au/usabilityresources/design/cardsorting.asp The hard part, as always, is finding the right people to do it with... I guess rounding up some users at GUADEC would have been useful (if still not ideal, because a lot of the types of people you're trying to serve wouldn't have been there), but I know you hadn't even really started planning this stuff until then. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Header design mock 11/10
On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 15:59 +, Calum Benson wrote: It's easy enough to do-- infodesign.com.au has a nice one-page summary of card sorting and other common usability techniques: http://infodesign.com.au/usabilityresources/design/cardsorting.asp (See also http://www.infodesign.com.au/usabilityresources/general/affinitydiagramming.asp) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Header design mock 11/10
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 08:52 +, Joachim Noreiko wrote: Commenting on the latest design here: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/33555.html I think it looks fantastic. Big improvement on the previous version (and I liked that one anyway). (http://mihmo.livejournal.com/33530.html) It looks much more open and brighter. The separation of the general navbar and the local header works very well. So does the more prominent GNOME logo. Good stuff. As someone who hasn't really been following the design process, my immediate reaction is: - Looks really nice and clean, but I'd be a little worried that the top (black) bar might be too 'hidden'-- I've often wandered around for ages on sites like this, where there's some obvious primary navigation mechanism (the tabs in this case) looking for a link I knew must be there, only to discover there was a whole different set of links right at the top that I hadn't noticed before. But maybe that's just me :) - (Wearing noob user's hat) Some of the links seem a bit vague, e.g. what's the difference between the News link and the news I'm looking at on the home page, and why should I ever need to visit an About page-- shouldn't all the other pages cover everything 'about' GNOME that I'd ever want to know? (Btw, has anyone done any card-sorting type exercises to check that the categories we think make sense are the ones our target audience thinks make sense?) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Java Desktop System Group http://ie.sun.com +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Header design mock 11/10
--- Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - (Wearing noob user's hat) Some of the links seem a bit vague, e.g. what's the difference between the News link and the news I'm looking at on the home page, and why should I ever need to visit an About page-- shouldn't all the other pages cover everything 'about' GNOME that I'd (Btw, has anyone done any card-sorting type exercises to check that the categories we think make sense are the ones our target audience thinks make sense?) No, we haven't. The breakdown of the wgo site navigation is here: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure This was actually agreed last cycle, and we're almost at the stage of writing the content. But if you feel we should do that, then I suppose we can. Although I don't know if anyone other than you has the experience and the resources to do any card-sorting -- I for one wouldn't have a clue where to begin. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Header design mock 11/10
On Fri, 2006-11-10 at 11:47 +, Calum Benson wrote: - Looks really nice and clean, but I'd be a little worried that the top (black) bar might be too 'hidden' This was also a concern when we released the guadec.org general bar... The thing is to find the balance between a bar that is not hidden but not too disruptive either. Wild idea, feel free to forget about it: what if we use tabs for the general nav bar and segments for the wgo bar? At the end tabs identify a more diversified relation between items, while segments 'are parts of the same body'. (now comes the wild) We could even consider to apply a not-too-bold version of the color derivations Máirín is consolidating. Maybe in the future the webmasters of subsites under each tab want to make a wider use of their color. wgo would have the black/dark grey of the official GNOME logo. - (Wearing noob user's hat) Some of the links seem a bit vague, e.g. Provide ALL the examples, please. what's the difference between the News link and the news I'm looking at on the home page None. The news in the homepage are extracted from news.gnome.org, which is the News tab in the General bar. Clicking those news you end up in pages under n.g.o. This is ok since wgo is a intro/gateway to the rest of GNOME subsites. , and why should I ever need to visit an About page-- shouldn't all the other pages cover everything 'about' GNOME that I'd ever want to know? This About link is almost a convention, isn't it. The rest of pages feature GNOME-the-software and About features GNOME-the-people. Maybe About us would make this distinction clearer? It's the second time I suggest this change and I do think it would be better. (Btw, has anyone done any card-sorting type exercises to check that the categories we think make sense are the ones our target audience thinks make sense?) No, common sense was the only technology I could apply when defining the http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/Navigation . Well founded improvements are always welcome. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
