Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Vincent Untz escribió: Hi all, (adding gnome-journal-list on CC since there are some people with unnatural abilities when it comes down to write/proofread english on this list ;-)) (but I don't think we need to send replies there, so please try to not spam them when replying!) Le lundi 21 août 2006, à 15:39, Davyd Madeley a écrit : On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:27:20AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: Ping again since the release is in nearly two weeks, and we want translations... I've really dropped the ball on this, because I'm over committed. Someone else really needs to take the lead and let me just fill in where I can. Here's the new plan: + if you can help, send a mail here, and add your name with a small list of what you can do at the end of [1] + deadlines: - August 24: the features list at [1] is frozen, meaning that we can start writing the notes - August 26: skeleton of the release notes available - August 30: the release notes text is frozen so translators can do their job - September 6: go live + (short) description of the various tasks: - coordination: well, that's the job of the person who will slap the others when they're late ;-) - writing the release notes front page: this is the first page of the release notes. It usually contains a screenshot of GNOME and some explanations about GNOME. See [2] for an example. i'll be glad to help on the translation to spanish for release pages, and press release -- Fernando San Martín Woerner Jefe de Informática Galilea S.A. http://www.galilea.cl/ -- Este mensaje ha sido analizado por nuestros servidores en busca de virus y otros contenidos peligrosos, y se considera que está limpio. begin:vcard fn;quoted-printable:Fernando San Mart=C3=ADn Woerner n;quoted-printable:San Mart=C3=ADn Woerner;Fernando email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:56-71-514400 tel;fax:56-71-514450 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
El dc 23 de 08 del 2006 a les 11:31 +0100, en/na Joachim Noreiko va escriure: > I hadn't seen that, but I'm proposing pretty much the > same. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2006-August/msg00147.html + attach with the content proposed for the common 2.16 page http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2006-August/pdfVrHwbrpO6f.pdf -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Wed, 2006-08-23 at 11:41 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi all, >- creating a live cd (or even better, live cds for various > languages): this is really something people like. I don't know how > hard this is, though. This is something I was intending to work on but not necessarily aiming to have it ready for the 2.16.0 release. My intent was to base it on edgey but I know that some people are uncomfortable to the modifications they make...maybe something GARNOME based. Feedback please ... Cheers, Rob -- Rob Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
--- Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >- writing the release notes front page > >- writing the start page > >+ if we want a press release > > Still no feedback about my proposal to have these > three pages in a > single one. Less work for probably a better result. I hadn't seen that, but I'm proposing pretty much the same. The start page seems to be a mix of the about page and the downloads page. These should be doing a good enough job to avoid being repeated. ___ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
--- Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- writing the start page: it should be quite > easy, but we can improve > it. See [3] for an example. I've not included a start page in the plan for the new WGO structure ( http://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/NewWgoStructure ) I can't see what it is meant to do. ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
El dc 23 de 08 del 2006 a les 11:41 +0200, en/na Vincent Untz va escriure: >- coordination: well, that's the job of the person who will slap the > others when they're late ;-) I can offer pure coordination. By "pure" I mean that I don't have 2.16 installed, I am no native English speaker and I am not skilled enough to operate with the current wgo-cvs. I can help in the rest of tasks but probably I can't complete anything. >- writing the release notes front page >- writing the start page >+ if we want a press release Still no feedback about my proposal to have these three pages in a single one. Less work for probably a better result. >- preparing the wgo front page: I'm not sure what's needed here since > I'm not up-to-date with the latest wgo development wgo revamp doesn't affect at all the release notes. Business as usual in the current wgo-cvs. >- taking screenshots (or screencasts!) We can ask the developers and people following Planet and art.gnome.org for: - Screenshots of the desktop and the applications featured. They should reflect the original GNOME (i.e. not taken directly from Ubuntu Edgy) - Screencasts based either on animated GIF (Byzanz, good for details) or free video formats. I would use swf as well but if there is no consensus, no problem. I would ask Mirco if he has time to do an informal GNOME 2.16 tour screencast. He is good at this. If we have it, great. If we don't have it, no problem. >- creating a live cd (or even better, live cds for various > languages) Can we have a LiveCD in several languages? In previous releases was Ubuntu based, isn't it? > Quim told me he could do some work, and coordinate all this, but he's > fine with someone with more free time to step up :-) Definitely. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Hi all,
(adding gnome-journal-list on CC since there are some people with
unnatural abilities when it comes down to write/proofread english on
this list ;-)) (but I don't think we need to send replies there, so
please try to not spam them when replying!)
Le lundi 21 août 2006, à 15:39, Davyd Madeley a écrit :
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:27:20AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > Ping again since the release is in nearly two weeks, and we want
> > translations...
>
> I've really dropped the ball on this, because I'm over committed.
> Someone else really needs to take the lead and let me just fill in
> where I can.
Here's the new plan:
+ if you can help, send a mail here, and add your name with a small
list of what you can do at the end of [1]
+ deadlines:
- August 24: the features list at [1] is frozen, meaning that we can
start writing the notes
- August 26: skeleton of the release notes available
- August 30: the release notes text is frozen so translators can do
their job
- September 6: go live
+ (short) description of the various tasks:
- coordination: well, that's the job of the person who will slap the
others when they're late ;-)
- writing the release notes front page: this is the first page of the
release notes. It usually contains a screenshot of GNOME and some
explanations about GNOME. See [2] for an example.
- writing the start page: it should be quite easy, but we can improve
it. See [3] for an example.
- preparing the wgo front page: I'm not sure what's needed here since
I'm not up-to-date with the latest wgo development
- creating the skeleton of the release notes: people will triage the
new features to help write a skeleton of the notes.
- writing text: that's the hard work. two or three people would work on
transforming the skeleton in real text.
- proofreading: you know what this means :-)
- taking screenshots (or screencasts!): we'll need screen{shot,cast}s
for the new features. In the past, we've been modifying the
screenshots so they have drop shadows. It doesn't take that long.
- putting everything on wgo: if we're still with the same wgo system,
this implies adding all files to CVS and make this work.
I can help here if necessary.
- creating a live cd (or even better, live cds for various
languages): this is really something people like. I don't know how
hard this is, though.
- asking people to upload 2.16 screenshots to art.gnome.org: users
like to see screenshots.
+ if we want a press release, we also some people to work on this. Any
volunteer?
Most of the work could be done by a small team, but having more people
would really help make things better!
Quim told me he could do some work, and coordinate all this, but he's
fine with someone with more free time to step up :-)
Thanks,
Vincent
[1] http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointFifteen/ReleaseNotes
[2] http://www.gnome.org/start/2.10/notes/ [4]
[3] http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/
[4] the 2.12 and 2.14 release notes are broken. We have to fix this.
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Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
El dl 21 de 08 del 2006 a les 09:27 +0200, en/na Vincent Untz va escriure: > Ping again since the release is in nearly two weeks, and we want > translations... Almost all I could contribute to that meeting was summarized at 2.16 release page http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2006-August/msg00147.html I think the proposal is still valid with this short deadline, since it saves work and avoids repetition. Other ideas I suggested about screencasts etc could be valid only if they come from the outside via i.e. an art.gnome.org call for materials or being contributed by a proficient screencaster (i.e. Mirco). -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 09:27:20AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le vendredi 18 ao?t 2006, ? 15:02, Vincent Untz a ?crit : > > Le mercredi 09 ao?t 2006, ? 01:29, Davyd Madeley a ?crit : > > > On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > > > > > Could we do a meeting this week? > > > > > > Yes. We need to get on it. > > > > > > What day and time is good for people? > > > > > > I'm at UTC+8, so UTC 18:00-23:00 is a little bit crap for me, but I can > > > probably do it if it's all that's available. > > > > > > Please who want to be involved, please reply to this thread ASAP. > > > > Just wondering out loud if the meeting happened... :-) > > Ping again since the release is in nearly two weeks, and we want > translations... I've really dropped the ball on this, because I'm over committed. Someone else really needs to take the lead and let me just fill in where I can. I'm really sorry, basically I suck. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Le vendredi 18 août 2006, à 15:02, Vincent Untz a écrit : > Le mercredi 09 août 2006, à 01:29, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > > On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > > > Could we do a meeting this week? > > > > Yes. We need to get on it. > > > > What day and time is good for people? > > > > I'm at UTC+8, so UTC 18:00-23:00 is a little bit crap for me, but I can > > probably do it if it's all that's available. > > > > Please who want to be involved, please reply to this thread ASAP. > > Just wondering out loud if the meeting happened... :-) Ping again since the release is in nearly two weeks, and we want translations... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Le mercredi 09 août 2006, à 01:29, Davyd Madeley a écrit : > On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > Could we do a meeting this week? > > Yes. We need to get on it. > > What day and time is good for people? > > I'm at UTC+8, so UTC 18:00-23:00 is a little bit crap for me, but I can > probably do it if it's all that's available. > > Please who want to be involved, please reply to this thread ASAP. Just wondering out loud if the meeting happened... :-) Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On 8/8/06, Corey Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/8/06, Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > > > Could we do a meeting this week? > > > > Yes. We need to get on it. > > > > What day and time is good for people? > > > > I'm at UTC+8, so UTC 18:00-23:00 is a little bit crap for me, but I can > > probably do it if it's all that's available. > > > > Please who want to be involved, please reply to this thread ASAP. > > > > --d > > > > -- > > Davyd Madeley > > -8, but bend around another people before me. > > Corey Right, that should have said: Bend the schedule around other peoples needs and I will slide in as needed. Corey -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On 8/8/06, Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > Could we do a meeting this week? > > Yes. We need to get on it. > > What day and time is good for people? > > I'm at UTC+8, so UTC 18:00-23:00 is a little bit crap for me, but I can > probably do it if it's all that's available. > > Please who want to be involved, please reply to this thread ASAP. > > --d > > -- > Davyd Madeley -8, but bend around another people before me. Corey -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
I can be flexible if deciding the date/time of the meeting at least a couple of days ahead, so I can organize the family context. However, I will try to summarize tomorrow my proposal of having a press release which is the main page of the release notes as well. El dc 09 de 08 del 2006 a les 01:29 +0800, en/na Davyd Madeley va escriure: > On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > Could we do a meeting this week? -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 01:29:25 +0800 Davyd Madeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please who want to be involved, please reply to this thread ASAP. > I'm on UTC/GMT + 2 hours, I believe. But I would just need a list of points, anyway, so don't bother about me. I'll try to be there whatever time is agreed upon. Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 01:29 +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > > Could we do a meeting this week? > > Yes. We need to get on it. > > What day and time is good for people? > > I'm at UTC+8, so UTC 18:00-23:00 is a little bit crap for me, but I can > probably do it if it's all that's available. > > Please who want to be involved, please reply to this thread ASAP. I'm UTC-5. Best times for me are between UTC 23:00 and 06:00. I can go much earlier on weekends, as early as maybe 17:00, but those times are crap for Davyd. Unfortunately, my best times are the worst in Europe. Here's my rough guide to timezones: US EU AU 00:00-08:00 freesleep work 08:00-16:00 sleep workfree 16:00-00:00 workfreesleep The world is tough, ain't it? -- Shaun -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 13:35 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Could we do a meeting this week? Yes. We need to get on it. What day and time is good for people? I'm at UTC+8, so UTC 18:00-23:00 is a little bit crap for me, but I can probably do it if it's all that's available. Please who want to be involved, please reply to this thread ASAP. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Hi all, On dim, 2006-07-23 at 11:46 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > Agree on date and time for a chat during next week and I will be there. > European mornings and nights are better for me, afternoons are really > complicated. > > El dg 23 de 07 del 2006 a les 17:40 +0800, en/na Davyd Madeley va > escriure: > > > How busy is busy? Could we possibly find the time to get all interested > > parties online for an IRC meeting so that we can lay out a plan for > > getting the release notes delivered on time and with time for > > translation (also taking into account changes in the web framework, > > etc.)? > > > > --d Could we do a meeting this week? Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 21:52 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi there, > > We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing of > the release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technical > person for this. Really. > > Murray, and then Davyd have been leading this effort for past releases > and might have some very wise advises to share (and maybe they'll want > to lead again?). > > So, I guess that's it. Ideally, we'd find one volunteer soon and she/he > will be able to find other people to help :-) > > Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus and > Corey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time to > continue... It looks like there are people willing to write. I'll offer my services as a language and style editor. This offer stands, by the way, for any documents produced by the marketing team, such as the tour document. I think the marketing and documentation teams should have a good working relationship for this kind of stuff. -- Shaun -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:11:29 +0200 Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about writing Release Notes consisting of a first summary page > and links to secondary pages... being that summary page the Press > release? You mean: as a theoretical possibility? I admit, the front (or first) page of the release notes looks a little bit boring, IIRC [1]. On the other hand, this are two different audiences: Press people often don't have enought space for detail stuff so they want meaning, and a maybe a good quote [2]. The slashdot crowd reading the release notes want a good overview on the relevant changes. I can't imaging how to satiesfy these two requirements in a single page. Although, it might be worth a try. Just say how you'd like to do it. Cheers, Claus [1] The first page in gone on the web. Maybe someone like to have a look what's wrong? [2] Might be good idea to drop the company-like quotes we usually have and try to get something more authentic (or even geeky) -- sort of: "What do think is the most important improvement for this release?"; answered by prominent members of our community. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
What about writing Release Notes consisting of a first summary page and links to secondary pages... being that summary page the Press release? -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 21:52:33 +0200 Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus > and Corey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time > to continue... Hi, of course, I'll help if that should still be necessary. Writing a first draft shouldn't take more then a day; just let me know when the technical information is sufficently complete. Cheers, Claus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 12:09 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > > I've wondered whether we get decent exposure from the "What's new in..." > > articles - they're definitely interesting for a section of the public > > who already know about our software. But one thing I've missed is an > > overview of the desktop (not a massive overview, but how people actually > > use GNOME, and how the new stuff affects workflows. Screencasts fit in > > nicely here. A full desktop overview would take far too long to be > > considered for September, but perhaps for March? > > The GNOME Tour could do this, if anybody found the time to finish it: > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2005-August/msg00148.html Dave, I agree with what you're saying here. Murray, thanks for reminding me of this. I started working on a tour from a slightly different tack (more slide based, I wanted then to add some manner of screencasting). I had been writing my own solution, but I saw something interesting that Carl Worth was using for his Cairo talk. It would be nice to get a tour as part of the "release notes". --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 11:12 +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Quim Gil wrote: > > I want to help producing release notes and press releases more friendly > > and effective for our user targets and journalists. What do we explain > > and how, how do we show them in wgo and the projects subsites. How we > > use screenshots, and screencasts. Also how these materials are > > advertised afterward. > > I'm going to do something I hate to see people doing - throw out an idea > and then fade back into the shadows. > > I've wondered whether we get decent exposure from the "What's new in..." > articles - they're definitely interesting for a section of the public > who already know about our software. But one thing I've missed is an > overview of the desktop (not a massive overview, but how people actually > use GNOME, and how the new stuff affects workflows. Screencasts fit in > nicely here. A full desktop overview would take far too long to be > considered for September, but perhaps for March? Yeah, perhaps concentrate on new benefits instead new features (as discussed earlier)? The 2.14 release notes gets this quite right IMHO. Still, release notes are about a new release, not a platform introduction. Or you meant a separate overview? We should definitely have such an overview on the new wgo... Greg -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
> > Hi, > > Quim Gil wrote: >> I want to help producing release notes and press releases more friendly >> and effective for our user targets and journalists. What do we explain >> and how, how do we show them in wgo and the projects subsites. How we >> use screenshots, and screencasts. Also how these materials are >> advertised afterward. > > I'm going to do something I hate to see people doing - throw out an idea > and then fade back into the shadows. > > I've wondered whether we get decent exposure from the "What's new in..." > articles - they're definitely interesting for a section of the public > who already know about our software. But one thing I've missed is an > overview of the desktop (not a massive overview, but how people actually > use GNOME, and how the new stuff affects workflows. Screencasts fit in > nicely here. A full desktop overview would take far too long to be > considered for September, but perhaps for March? The GNOME Tour could do this, if anybody found the time to finish it: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2005-August/msg00148.html Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Hi, Quim Gil wrote: > I want to help producing release notes and press releases more friendly > and effective for our user targets and journalists. What do we explain > and how, how do we show them in wgo and the projects subsites. How we > use screenshots, and screencasts. Also how these materials are > advertised afterward. I'm going to do something I hate to see people doing - throw out an idea and then fade back into the shadows. I've wondered whether we get decent exposure from the "What's new in..." articles - they're definitely interesting for a section of the public who already know about our software. But one thing I've missed is an overview of the desktop (not a massive overview, but how people actually use GNOME, and how the new stuff affects workflows. Screencasts fit in nicely here. A full desktop overview would take far too long to be considered for September, but perhaps for March? Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
> Hi there, > > We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing of > the release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technical > person for this. Really. > > Murray, and then Davyd have been leading this effort for past releases > and might have some very wise advises to share (and maybe they'll want > to lead again?). Davyd Madeley and Bob Kashani did the 2.14 notes, and did a great job of it. I'm unlikely to find time to help much. > So, I guess that's it. Ideally, we'd find one volunteer soon and she/he > will be able to find other people to help :-) > > Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus and > Corey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time to > continue... Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Agree on date and time for a chat during next week and I will be there. European mornings and nights are better for me, afternoons are really complicated. El dg 23 de 07 del 2006 a les 17:40 +0800, en/na Davyd Madeley va escriure: > How busy is busy? Could we possibly find the time to get all interested > parties online for an IRC meeting so that we can lay out a plan for > getting the release notes delivered on time and with time for > translation (also taking into account changes in the web framework, > etc.)? > > --d > -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Quim, On Sun, 2006-07-23 at 08:20 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > I want to help producing release notes and press releases more friendly > and effective for our user targets and journalists. What do we explain > and how, how do we show them in wgo and the projects subsites. How we > use screenshots, and screencasts. Also how these materials are > advertised afterward. It sounds like you have some interesting ideas and I would like to take the time to hear them. I too have thought that we have slightly the wrong tilt with the release notes. How busy is busy? Could we possibly find the time to get all interested parties online for an IRC meeting so that we can lay out a plan for getting the release notes delivered on time and with time for translation (also taking into account changes in the web framework, etc.)? --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
El ds 22 de 07 del 2006 a les 17:08 -0300, en/na Guilherme de S. Pastore va escriure: > We'll have some more work than for the last release due to nobody having > cared to keep http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointFifteen/ReleaseNotes > updated Knowing early the main stars of the 2.16 release will help us deciding the applications to be featured in the revamped wgo. These pages with software nicely featured can be a good support (additional info) for the press release, and maybe the release notes themselves. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
I want to help producing release notes and press releases more friendly and effective for our user targets and journalists. What do we explain and how, how do we show them in wgo and the projects subsites. How we use screenshots, and screencasts. Also how these materials are advertised afterward. I'm pretty busy this month but I will have time to contribute in August. -- Quim Gil /// http://desdeamericaconamor.org | http://guadec.org signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge, signada digitalment -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On 7/22/06, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing of > the release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technical > person for this. Really. > > Murray, and then Davyd have been leading this effort for past releases > and might have some very wise advises to share (and maybe they'll want > to lead again?). > > So, I guess that's it. Ideally, we'd find one volunteer soon and she/he > will be able to find other people to help :-) > > Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus and > Corey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time to > continue... > > Vincent I can help, but I am not free until Wednesday to work on this. Corey -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
On Sat, 2006-07-22 at 21:52 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing of > the release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technical > person for this. Really. > > Murray, and then Davyd have been leading this effort for past releases > and might have some very wise advises to share (and maybe they'll want > to lead again?). I am willing to take the lead on this again, unless Murray feels like stepping back up. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
I'm sorry for the message I quote here below, just do as if it weren't there. I'm not using evolution (not in home) and I pressed the wrong button in gmail...On 7/22/06, Javier Aravena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd love to help either with the actual writing of it or with a translation to spanish, however I cannot find any info on what the next version is likely to have in the wikiRegards. On 7/22/06, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi there,We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing ofthe release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technicalperson for this. Really.Murray, and then Davyd have been leading this effort for past releases and might have some very wise advises to share (and maybe they'll wantto lead again?).So, I guess that's it. Ideally, we'd find one volunteer soon and she/hewill be able to find other people to help :-) Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus andCorey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time tocontinue...Vincent--Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. --marketing-list mailing listmarketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- //Phrodo_00//Blog: phrodo00.openfrogs.comMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- //Phrodo_00//Blog:phrodo00.openfrogs.comMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
I'd love to help either with the actual writing of it or with a translation to spanish, however I cannot find any info on what the next version is likely to have in the wikiRegards. On 7/22/06, Vincent Untz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi there,We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing ofthe release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technicalperson for this. Really.Murray, and then Davyd have been leading this effort for past releases and might have some very wise advises to share (and maybe they'll wantto lead again?).So, I guess that's it. Ideally, we'd find one volunteer soon and she/hewill be able to find other people to help :-) Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus andCorey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time tocontinue...Vincent--Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. --marketing-list mailing listmarketing-list@gnome.orghttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- //Phrodo_00//Blog:phrodo00.openfrogs.comMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
I'l like On 7/22/06, Guilherme de S. Pastore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Em Sáb, 2006-07-22 às 21:52 +0200, Vincent Untz escreveu:> Hi there,Hey! =)> We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing of> the release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technical > person for this. Really.I tried to help Davyd with the last one, and would be happy to lead itthis time, perhaps also in order to compensate for the minimal amount oftime I managed to dedicate to my modules along the past few months. ;) We'll have some more work than for the last release due to nobody havingcared to keep http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointFifteen/ReleaseNotesupdated, but nothing that a little work with the eventual help of a couple of announcements won't do.> Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus and> Corey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time to> continue... I'd love to help here too, but don't think I'd have time for both. I'lltry to help here as much as possible, but would rather not promiseanything, at least for now.Cheers,-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Guilherme de S. Pastorehttp://www.gnome.org/ * http://br.gnome.org/--marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.orghttp://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list-- //Phrodo_00// Blog:phrodo00.openfrogs.comMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Em Sáb, 2006-07-22 às 21:52 +0200, Vincent Untz escreveu: > Hi there, Hey! =) > We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing of > the release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technical > person for this. Really. I tried to help Davyd with the last one, and would be happy to lead it this time, perhaps also in order to compensate for the minimal amount of time I managed to dedicate to my modules along the past few months. ;) We'll have some more work than for the last release due to nobody having cared to keep http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointFifteen/ReleaseNotes updated, but nothing that a little work with the eventual help of a couple of announcements won't do. > Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus and > Corey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time to > continue... I'd love to help here too, but don't think I'd have time for both. I'll try to help here as much as possible, but would rather not promise anything, at least for now. Cheers, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Guilherme de S. Pastore http://www.gnome.org/ * http://br.gnome.org/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Writing the 2.16 release notes (and press release)
Hi there, We're looking for a small group of volunteers to handle the writing of the release notes for GNOME 2.16. There's no need to be a technical person for this. Really. Murray, and then Davyd have been leading this effort for past releases and might have some very wise advises to share (and maybe they'll want to lead again?). So, I guess that's it. Ideally, we'd find one volunteer soon and she/he will be able to find other people to help :-) Oh, I nearly forgot about it: there's also the press release. Claus and Corey have been heroes there, but I don't know if they have time to continue... Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
