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You have to be of a certain age to remember Madame Nhu, a Marie Antoinette like figure, who was a symbol of the decadence of the South Vietnamese regime of her brother, dictator Ngo Dinh Diem who was overthrown and killed in a bloody CIA abetted coup in November 1963 along with his brother, Madame's husband. Previously she had mocked Buddhist monks killing themselves in protest over Diem's repression as "barbecues". The night after the fall of Saigon in April 1975 she appeared on Tom Snyder's "Tomorrow" Show (that followed Johnny Carson on NBC during the 70s) claiming that all this would not have happened if Diem had remained. Well, it wouldn't have ended the way it did for sure, because the way things were going with him the other side would have had it wrapped up before the end of 1964. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/world/asia/27nhu.html?_r=1&hpw ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@greenhouse.economics.utah.edu Set your options at: http://greenhouse.economics.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com