Re: [Marxism] What's behind the explosive growth of the DSA?

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> There's no reason not to do things just because the leadership doesn't want
> to take the initiative.  Everywhere it can be done, people should set up.or
> involve themselves in classes around basic political questions . . . And
> get to know the more militant minded.

This! It is what I do and hope others would do the same.

What good is a split?
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Re: [Marxism] What's behind the explosive growth of the DSA?

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There's no reason not to do things just because the leadership doesn't want
to take the initiative.  Everywhere it can be done, people should set up.or
involve themselves in classes around basic political questions . . . And
get to know the more militant minded.

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Re: [Marxism] US To Establish Airbase in Syria?

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I don't know if this report is true, but it would not surprise me.

Military cooperation between the Syrian Democratic Forces and the US was 
initially directed against ISIS.  But it also had the benefit of deterring a 
Turkish invasion of Rojava and the broader Democratic Federation of Northern 
Syria.

ISIS has been greatly weakened, but the Turkish threat has become more obvious 
following the invasion of Afrin. Hence it seems the DFNS would like a 
continuing US military presence, to deter a Turkish invasion of the rest of 
northern Syria.

While this is understandable, it has obvious dangers.  It could result in 
cooptation of the SDF and the degeneration of the revolution.

The only hope is for the revolution to spread to other countries, particularly 
Turkey and Iraq.  As Trotsky said, there can be no socialism in a single 
country.

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This is from an Syrian opposition source which quotes pro-regime media.
I don't know how reliable this information is.

https://www.qasioun-news.com/en/news/show/158813/US_To_Establish_Airbase_In_Syria


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[Marxism] Marx and Engels - some letters on the Fenians and the British working class

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Re: [Marxism] What's behind the explosive growth of the DSA?

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Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] The Ritchie Boys | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Thank you for this Louis,  I just viewed 5 minutes and it looks great. Your
description makes it irresistible.  I will watch it tonight with my family,
before it's taken down.

Best,
Brian

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Louis Proyect  wrote:

> Not too long ago I discovered that Werner Angress, the historian from
> whose “Stillborn Revolution: The Communist Bid for Power in Germany,
> 1921–23” I have been posting excerpts, was a Ritchie boy. After he died in
> 2010, The American Historical Association commemorated his life, including
> information on Ritchie:
>
> Drafted into the army in 1941, he was trained as an interrogator
> at Camp Ritchie (he is featured in the film, The Ritchie Boys, about this
> remarkable institution), and parachuted (his first jump) into France with
> the 82nd Airborne on D-Day. Despite his extraordinarily youthful appearance
> and rather small stature, Angress was a tough and resourceful soldier who
> was eventually promoted to Master Sergeant and awarded the Bronze Star and
> the Purple Heart.
>
> In going through a backlog of DVDs received from publicists about a decade
> ago, I discovered that I had one for “The Ritchie Boys”. In extracting it
> from the package, it accidentally was damaged. Not willing to be deterred
> from seeing the film, I got a copy through the Columbia Library and was
> richly rewarded by a documentary that might be regarded as the ultimate
> alternative to Quentin Tarantino’s “Inglourious Basterds”.
>
> Although Werner Angress and all the other German and German-speaking
> Jewish immigrants had every reason to want to kill every Nazi they got
> their hands on, the allied cause was better served by them functioning as
> “soft cops” to get information that could save the lives of fellow soldiers
> as well as civilians. Additionally, the Ritchie boys discover that many if
> not most of the German soldiers were ordinary workers forced to kill or be
> killed as deserters. The same thing was true of the German civilians they
> came in contact with.
>
> Every Ritchie boy interviewed in the film was as ethically and politically
> informed as Angress, with some demonstrating the leftist politics they
> probably absorbed growing up in Weimar Germany. Among the most interesting
> is Si Lewin, a Polish Jew who was born in 1918 and died two years ago at
> the age of 97. Like all the other Ritchie boys, including Angress whose
> parachute got caught in a tree in Germany not long after D-Day, he has an
> amazing story to tell.
>
> He was assigned to convince German soldiers to surrender by speaking to
> them through high-powered speakers wired to a batteries in a jeep.
> Routinely, German artillery honed in on Lewin and his comrades by
> geolocating the sound of the speakers until they figured out how to
> position them far from the jeep.
>
> I had to make a tough decision in writing an article about “The Ritchie
> Boys” since it was neither available as VOD or even as a DVD with the
> standard pricing. The director Christian Bauer, a German, died in 2009 and
> the distribution company he founded died along with him. The only way to
> see the film is to buy a DVD on Amazon that is now going for $70 when it
> was available.
>
> I saw no alternative except to put it up on Youtube, which took a bit of
> time and money to accomplish. Since the DVD is copy-protected, I had to pay
> $100 to have someone bypass the copy protection and make it uploadable. I
> doubt that Youtube will be hearing from anybody about copyright protection
> but just in case I wouldn’t waste any time watching this film since it is
> absolutely terrific.
>
>
> full: https://louisproyect.org/2018/08/16/the-ritchie-boys-2/
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[Marxism] Aretha Franklin—Musical Genius, Truth Teller, Freedom Fighter | Farah Jasmine Griffin | The Nation

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Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] The Ritchie Boys | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Nope. Worked for me. Erik

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> Anybody else have the problem?
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Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] The Ritchie Boys | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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On 8/16/18 2:23 PM, David McDonald via Marxism wrote:


bad link


Are you sure? I was able to get to it through the link I posted:

https://louisproyect.org/2018/08/16/the-ritchie-boys-2/

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Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] The Ritchie Boys | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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[Marxism] The Ritchie Boys | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Not too long ago I discovered that Werner Angress, the historian from 
whose “Stillborn Revolution: The Communist Bid for Power in Germany, 
1921–23” I have been posting excerpts, was a Ritchie boy. After he died 
in 2010, The American Historical Association commemorated his life, 
including information on Ritchie:


	Drafted into the army in 1941, he was trained as an interrogator at 
Camp Ritchie (he is featured in the film, The Ritchie Boys, about this 
remarkable institution), and parachuted (his first jump) into France 
with the 82nd Airborne on D-Day. Despite his extraordinarily youthful 
appearance and rather small stature, Angress was a tough and resourceful 
soldier who was eventually promoted to Master Sergeant and awarded the 
Bronze Star and the Purple Heart.


In going through a backlog of DVDs received from publicists about a 
decade ago, I discovered that I had one for “The Ritchie Boys”. In 
extracting it from the package, it accidentally was damaged. Not willing 
to be deterred from seeing the film, I got a copy through the Columbia 
Library and was richly rewarded by a documentary that might be regarded 
as the ultimate alternative to Quentin Tarantino’s “Inglourious Basterds”.


Although Werner Angress and all the other German and German-speaking 
Jewish immigrants had every reason to want to kill every Nazi they got 
their hands on, the allied cause was better served by them functioning 
as “soft cops” to get information that could save the lives of fellow 
soldiers as well as civilians. Additionally, the Ritchie boys discover 
that many if not most of the German soldiers were ordinary workers 
forced to kill or be killed as deserters. The same thing was true of the 
German civilians they came in contact with.


Every Ritchie boy interviewed in the film was as ethically and 
politically informed as Angress, with some demonstrating the leftist 
politics they probably absorbed growing up in Weimar Germany. Among the 
most interesting is Si Lewin, a Polish Jew who was born in 1918 and died 
two years ago at the age of 97. Like all the other Ritchie boys, 
including Angress whose parachute got caught in a tree in Germany not 
long after D-Day, he has an amazing story to tell.


He was assigned to convince German soldiers to surrender by speaking to 
them through high-powered speakers wired to a batteries in a jeep. 
Routinely, German artillery honed in on Lewin and his comrades by 
geolocating the sound of the speakers until they figured out how to 
position them far from the jeep.


I had to make a tough decision in writing an article about “The Ritchie 
Boys” since it was neither available as VOD or even as a DVD with the 
standard pricing. The director Christian Bauer, a German, died in 2009 
and the distribution company he founded died along with him. The only 
way to see the film is to buy a DVD on Amazon that is now going for $70 
when it was available.


I saw no alternative except to put it up on Youtube, which took a bit of 
time and money to accomplish. Since the DVD is copy-protected, I had to 
pay $100 to have someone bypass the copy protection and make it 
uploadable. I doubt that Youtube will be hearing from anybody about 
copyright protection but just in case I wouldn’t waste any time watching 
this film since it is absolutely terrific.



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[Marxism] US To Establish Airbase in Syria?

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This is from an Syrian opposition source which quotes pro-regime media. 
I don't know how reliable this information is.


https://www.qasioun-news.com/en/news/show/158813/US_To_Establish_Airbase_In_Syria 



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Re: [Marxism] What's behind the explosive growth of the DSA?

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I am in East Bay DSA, which as far as I can understand it is one of the
more influential branches. Here's how it works here:

The branch leadership was dominated by union staffers and non-profiteers.
We do not have regular monthly branch meetings and what membership meetings
we have are strictly scripted from start to finish so there is really no
space to raise new ideas.

Nearly a year and a half ago, a small group of us went to the leadership
body and suggested that they open up a discussion on DSA running its own
candidate or candidates for local office. The discussion would focus on
running candidate(s) would run as socialists and working class
representatives and opposed to both parties. The leadership refused to open
up such a discussion on the specious grounds that they can't make such
decisions (run candidates) for the branch. But really all we were proposing
is to have a discussion.

Instead, the only activities that branch members could get involved in was
canvassing for the state single payer bill. The plan all along was for that
bill to be killed one way or another. I even suggested that on the EBDSA
Facebook page, but I was told I was being too pessimistic. As it turned
out, I was right, but there never was the slightest hint of that by the DSA
leadership here either during the campaign or afterwards. As a result, it
did serve to simply mobilize the membership to campaign for a
Democratic-led and organized campaign, one that was planned to fail from
the start.

Then the wheels were greased for EBDSA to support Jovanka Beckles,
Democratic Party candidate for state legislature. Meanwhile, there was
canvassing for repeal of a state law prohibiting local rent control
ordinances. There was and is zero explanation that regulating the free
market is well and good, but what's really needed is public housing (under
the control and management of the workers and tenants). Again, this rent
control issue, like single payer, is one being led by the state DP
"progressives".

There is another issue: In Oakland (which is the main city in the East
Bay), even though it's been gentrified a lot, we are not going to build a
real working class socialist movement if we're all white. But that is more
or less the case with EBDSA. Not that there is blame, but we have to be
aware of that and take steps to remedy it.

So, here's another issue: Laney Community College is kind of the icon for
Oakland's working class/people of color youth. Last year, its existence was
threatened by the plan of the Oakland A's to build a stadium right across
the street from Laney. There started to be a considerable campaign at Laney
(and also in the nearby Chinatown community) to oppose this. That would
have been a great opportunity for EBDSA to reach out beyond its existing
demographics. Plus, as socialists, EBDSA could have made a real
contribution. It remained entirely uninvolved. The only explanation I can
find is that that issue did not fit into the strategy of the Democratic
Party liberals. And the reason for that is that Oakland is controlled by
the real estate developers through several of the major players in the
Democratic party who administer the city (from the mayor on down). And
these liberals are precisely the ones linked with the real estate industry.
(See this article for the background and the details:
https://oaklandsocialist.com/2017/10/18/oakland-as-stadium-proposal-save-laney-college-stop-gentrification/
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One last point: At the annual membership "convention" of EBDSA, the chair
commented that he was so excited because this is the first political debate
we've had in EBDSA. Can you imagine that? He was saying (accurately) that
there never has been a political debate within EBDSA before then. I don't
think the reason is that the people running EBDSA are simply bureaucrats. I
think it's simply that they are committed to a strategy - support for the
liberal wing of the Democrats - that they know they cannot defend. And I
think the events I cited above show that.

I am still in DSA and as active as I can be, but these are real issues.

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Re: [Marxism] [pen-l] Re: The origins of capitalism

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On 8/15/18 11:29 PM, Ralph Johansen via Marxism wrote:


We've been down this path before. Brenner's focus is on how capitalism 
ORIGINATED, its speciated emergence and conception in a form and in 
conditions which without human design or intention produced it as the 
dominant form of production; in a specific form and locale, as a 
specific form of the organization of production, and not in all the 
forms of accumulation which contributed to these origins and their 
development in all sorts of places around the globe.


I know how Brenner makes his case. I have written about lease farming 
and all that stuff here:


https://louisproyect.org/2007/06/12/british-farming-resisted-mechanization-until-the-1850s/

https://louisproyect.org/2007/06/21/british-farming-and-market-imperatives/

https://louisproyect.org/2016/01/27/town-and-tawney/

https://louisproyect.org/2007/07/04/turnips-and-the-transition-to-capitalism/

https://louisproyect.org/2007/07/05/more-on-the-turnip/

But to repeat. Dimmock claims that Marx himself was a Political Marxist. 
I find it deeply problematic that he does not point to the passages in 
Capital and Grundrisse that comes close to Brenner's analysis. The 
omissions are striking, not just about slavery, etc. But about the role 
of merchant capital (East India Company.) Brenner's thesis is nakedly 
Eurocentric, Anglocentric actually. As if lease farming in the 15th 
century led inexorably to the sun never setting on the British Empire.


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