Re: [Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Report from Venezuela,

2019-01-27 Thread DW via Marxism
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Sorting through all this confusion on groups.

1. Marea Socialista was a wing of the PSUV lead by near-USFI supporters
(NPA-France, SA/Solidarity-US). They split years ago from the PSUV where
they had been a tendency and are in opposition to the PSUV and the right
wing.

2. PSL. No relation the US Marcyite group, with the same name. This group
is affiliated to the "UIT-CI" which is one of the main still remaining
"Morenoist" tendencies in Latin America today. There are *several* of these
Morenoist and ex-Morenoist currents. All have representation in Venezuela
and, Mexico among other countries. PSL is "notorious" because Orlando
Chiriono, leading dissident unionist and militant, who some years ago,
split with other independent Chavista trade unionists to unite with the
"AFL-CIA" Venezuela Federation of Workers against Chavez. They are VERY
anti-gov't. This group has a small representation in the US in the form of
a few individuals.

3. Left Voice has no relations whatsoever with this above noted group in
Venezuela. Left Voice is associated with the "non-Morenoist" and early
split from the original Morenoist international, the LIT-CI, to form the
PTS, now the largest Trotskyist group in Argentina today (or in the Western
Hemisphere for that matter). The international current THIS group is
affiliated with is called the FT-CI or Trotskyist Faction-Fourth
International. It's affiliate in Venezuela is the Workers League for
Socialism. Here is a translation of what this group has to say about
Venezuela:
*https://tinyurl.com/yau9u4mo *

David
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Re: [Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Report from Venezuela

2019-01-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 1/27/19 12:29 PM, Richard Fidler via Marxism wrote:

This is a "party" that adheres to the political current led by the former 
Moreno PST based in Argentina.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Socialismo_y_Libertad


It should not be mistaken with the American group led by the Becker 
brothers. In fact, maybe the best translation of its name is Party of 
Socialism and Liberty rather than Party of Socialism and Liberation.


The Morenoites, by the way, are the people behind LeftVoice, an online 
newspaper with some pretty good analysis.

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Re: [Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Report from Venezuela

2019-01-27 Thread Richard Fidler via Marxism
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This is a "party" that adheres to the political current led by the former 
Moreno PST based in Argentina.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Socialismo_y_Libertad

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Subject: [Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Report from Venezuela

Here is a reprint from an article by the Party for Socialism and Liberation
in Venezuela. I don't know all the ins and outs of the different socialist
groups in Venezuela, but this article seems pretty close to reality there.


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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] Report from Venezuela

2019-01-27 Thread John Reimann via Marxism
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Here is a reprint from an article by the Party for Socialism and Liberation
in Venezuela. I don't know all the ins and outs of the different socialist
groups in Venezuela, but this article seems pretty close to reality there.
It starts by opposing Guaido and any intervention by US imperialism. But it
then continues to explain the crisis of the Maduro government, its
corruption and its anti-worker nature, and it calls for an independent,
working class response.

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