Re: [Marxism] Brief Reflection on Trump?s Impeachment By Roberto Savio

2019-10-14 Thread Michael Meeropol via Marxism
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Some people are worried that the promise of a civil war may become a
reality --- the democratic majority (especially if the election is close in
some key states) will have to rely on the "discipline" of the police forces
and the military -- especially the hierarchy --- Granted the military
hierarchy will stick with the ruling class -- but there could be SERIOUS
civil disorders by the "militias" and who knows where the local police
forces will be -- (throw in ICE agents who are BIG supporters of Trump as
well as the military folks who have been brainwashed) --- I do believe that
unless there is very successful voter suppression, that the Dems will pull
it out -- BUT -- it will depend on the Obama coalition coming out to vote
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:I do not agree with this article. I don’t think it’s a good analysis.
Firstof all, the author completely fails to understand what’s really at
work inthese proceedings, which is another way of saying he ignores the
classdynamics. In my opinion, the mainstream of the capitalist class has
finallydecided that it cannot allow a demented (seriously) person to
continue hisdrive for one man rule unchecked. In his Ukraine actions, Trump
showed thathe was going to do whatever it took to continue down that path
for anotherfour years. His Syria blunder “worse than a crime - a mistake”
toparaphrase Talleyrand), committed after impeachment had begun, will
haveenormously reinforced their determination. And while seriously
weakened,their influence over the US population is still very strong.In the
course of the hearings all sorts of dirt will come out. This will

> drive all but the Trump fanatics into the Democrats’ camp. As for the
> fanatics, I don’t think they are a majority in most states. Already the
> polls show Trump losing in many swing states that he won in 2016. These
> include Ohio, Pennsylvania and others. These hearings will strengthen that
> trend. Yes, it will heighten the convictions and emotions of the fanatics.
> That could drive them to even greater violence, but it won’t help re-elect
> Trump  
> 
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[Marxism] Brief Reflection on Trump?s Impeachment By Roberto Savio

2019-10-14 Thread John Reimann via Marxism
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I do not agree with this article. I don’t think it’s a good analysis. First
of all, the author completely fails to understand what’s really at work in
these proceedings, which is another way of saying he ignores the class
dynamics. In my opinion, the mainstream of the capitalist class has finally
decided that it cannot allow a demented (seriously) person to continue his
drive for one man rule unchecked. In his Ukraine actions, Trump showed that
he was going to do whatever it took to continue down that path for another
four years. His Syria blunder “worse than a crime - a mistake” to
paraphrase Talleyrand), committed after impeachment had begun, will have
enormously reinforced their determination. And while seriously weakened,
their influence over the US population is still very strong.

In the course of the hearings all sorts of dirt will come out. This will
drive all but the Trump fanatics into the Democrats’ camp. As for the
fanatics, I don’t think they are a majority in most states. Already the
polls show Trump losing in many swing states that he won in 2016. These
include Ohio, Pennsylvania and others. These hearings will strengthen that
trend. Yes, it will heighten the convictions and emotions of the fanatics.
That could drive them to even greater violence, but it won’t help re-elect
Trump.

John Reimann
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