Re: [Marxism] Don DeBar: Election analysis and the Trumpenproletariat | Rhode Island Media Cooperative

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
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>> Don Debar supported Gaddafi and Assad. He is also a Putin follower so it
>> should surprise anyone that he is a Trump supporter as well.
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> This is nonsense. The filthy Stalinists of the US Peace Council just sent
> a fawning delegation to Assad. When they got back, they probably started
> ringing doorbells for Clinton as soon as they got over their jet lag. Clay
> keeps trying to make voting for Clinton some kind of litmus test. Marxism
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Re: [Marxism] Don DeBar: Election analysis and the Trumpenproletariat | Rhode Island Media Cooperative

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On 9/27/16 10:23 PM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism wrote:

Don Debar supported Gaddafi and Assad. He is also a Putin follower so it
should surprise anyone that he is a Trump supporter as well.


This is nonsense. The filthy Stalinists of the US Peace Council just 
sent a fawning delegation to Assad. When they got back, they probably 
started ringing doorbells for Clinton as soon as they got over their jet 
lag. Clay keeps trying to make voting for Clinton some kind of litmus 
test. Marxism is not about paper turning red or blue when dipped in a 
chemical solution. It is about class analysis in the face of 
contradictions, a dying art on the left I'm afraid.

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Re: [Marxism] Don DeBar: Election analysis and the Trumpenproletariat | Rhode Island Media Cooperative

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Thus spaketh the neoliberal missionary to we puny Marxists.

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Clay Claiborne  wrote:

> Don Debar supported Gaddafi and Assad. He is also a Putin follower so it
> should surprise anyone that he is a Trump supporter as well.
>
> I am not certain what strategy is needed to produce the necessary unity of
>> program and action required to advance the interests of the working class
>> in this tangled condition, but it is evident to me that supporting Clinton
>> is NOT it. Her election is the goal of precisely the forces that have been
>> working to take down this working class uprising in each and all of its
>> forms. In the face of that, it is obvious to me that our task is to take
>> her – and, thereby, the elite assembled behind her – down instead.
>>
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>> Very good analysis here. All the Clinton boosters should take note.
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>> https://rimediacoop.org/2016/09/26/don-debar-election-analysis/
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Re: [Marxism] Don DeBar: Election analysis and the Trumpenproletariat | Rhode Island Media Cooperative

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Don Debar supported Gaddafi and Assad. He is also a Putin follower so it
should surprise anyone that he is a Trump supporter as well.

I am not certain what strategy is needed to produce the necessary unity of
> program and action required to advance the interests of the working class
> in this tangled condition, but it is evident to me that supporting Clinton
> is NOT it. Her election is the goal of precisely the forces that have been
> working to take down this working class uprising in each and all of its
> forms. In the face of that, it is obvious to me that our task is to take
> her – and, thereby, the elite assembled behind her – down instead.
>

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[Marxism] Don DeBar: Election analysis and the Trumpenproletariat | Rhode Island Media Cooperative

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Very good analysis here. All the Clinton boosters should take note.


https://rimediacoop.org/2016/09/26/don-debar-election-analysis/


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