Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Eric Blanc: The Ballot and the Break (the case of the Mn. Farmer-Labor Party).

2017-12-04 Thread Thomas via Marxism 
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The criticism of the politics of the DSA is on point.

That said, the organization is very much alive and growing beyond expectation.

French Turn?  

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>From: Louis Proyect via Marxism 
>Sent: Dec 4, 2017 9:45 PM
>To: Thomas F Barton 
>Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Eric Blanc: The Ballot and the Break (the case of 
>the Mn. Farmer-Labor Party).
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>On 12/4/17 9:23 PM, DW via Marxism wrote:
>> Eric Blank goes "Dirty Break" on the Democrats using the Minn. Farmer-Labor
>> Party as an example...
>>   Or does he?
>> 
>> The Ballot and the Break
>> By Eric Blanc 
>> 
>> Minnesota’s Farmer-Labor Party, the most successful labor party in US
>> history, is rich in lessons for challenging the two-party system.
>> 
>>
>Blanc digs into historical minutiae like the slogan for a democratic 
>dictatorship of the proletariat and the peasantry, and now Farmer-Labor 
>candidates running in the DP (and Republican, I believe) primaries 
>without connecting them to the present-day. No wonder Jacobin runs the 
>article because they are steeped in DSA inside-outside crapola. If Blanc 
>was serious about the relevance of this, he'd connect it to the DSA's 
>neo-Fabian politics. 
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Eric Blanc: The Ballot and the Break (the case of the Mn. Farmer-Labor Party).

2017-12-04 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism 

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On 12/4/17 9:23 PM, DW via Marxism wrote:

Eric Blank goes "Dirty Break" on the Democrats using the Minn. Farmer-Labor
Party as an example...
  Or does he?

The Ballot and the Break
By Eric Blanc 

Minnesota’s Farmer-Labor Party, the most successful labor party in US
history, is rich in lessons for challenging the two-party system.


Blanc digs into historical minutiae like the slogan for a democratic 
dictatorship of the proletariat and the peasantry, and now Farmer-Labor 
candidates running in the DP (and Republican, I believe) primaries 
without connecting them to the present-day. No wonder Jacobin runs the 
article because they are steeped in DSA inside-outside crapola. If Blanc 
was serious about the relevance of this, he'd connect it to the DSA's 
neo-Fabian politics. Or, for that matter, he'd answer my question about 
if the fucking "democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and the 
peasantry" was so superior to Trotsky's permanent revolution, why did it 
lead to such a disaster in China in 1927?

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[Marxism] Fwd: Eric Blanc: The Ballot and the Break (the case of the Mn. Farmer-Labor Party).

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Eric Blank goes "Dirty Break" on the Democrats using the Minn. Farmer-Labor
Party as an example...
 Or does he?

The Ballot and the Break
By Eric Blanc 

Minnesota’s Farmer-Labor Party, the most successful labor party in US
history, is rich in lessons for challenging the two-party system.

The oldest political dispute inside the US left isn’t going away anytime
soon. Revelations

about the Democratic National Committee’s pro–Hillary Clinton
intrigues and local
victories

for leftists in the November elections have added fuel to the fire of that
age-old question: how should socialists confront the two-party system?

On one side, supporters of “realigning” the Democratic Party insist that
given the constraints of the US political system, transforming the party is
the sole viable strategy for progressive politics. On the other side,
advocates of a clean break from the Democrats and Republicans see any
involvement within capitalist parties as an unprincipled dead end.

Proponents of each stance can rightly point to the practical failures of
their rivals’ approaches over the past century, especially at the national
level. But both sides have ignored the example of the most electorally
successful workers’ party in the history of the United States — the
Minnesota Farmer-Labor Party (FLP).
FULL:
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/12/democratic-party-minnesota-farmer-labor-floyd-olson
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