[Marxism] Fwd: Fwd: Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border | World news | The Guardian

2015-11-27 Thread Andrew Pollack via Marxism
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-- Forwarded message --
From: John Obrien <causecollec...@msn.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Marxism] Fwd: Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border
| World news | The Guardian
To: Andrew Pollack <acpolla...@gmail.com>


Are you buying these missiles yourself - and providing as "socialist
purchased"
from the  corporate merchants of death?

Why not go to Syria and join your "comrades" you so want to support?
You seem among those who want poor U. S. youth to go invade, occupy and
kill -
sounding much like the U. S. republican party folks.  I assume you will not
go fight yourself,
also like those same republican party folks of GW Bush, Dick Cheney and the
other neo-cons.
You do sound much like a "chicken hawk" of the new U. S. republican model
form.

But since you have no shame in supporting al-Nusra, can we expect you to be
anything but a b. s. talker
and make unseemly "jokes" with the misery and death of war?  You have lost
what made you initially interested
in socialism and humanity.  Now you identify with the Raytheon Company
which manufactured these Tow missiles!

What kind of socialist would joke about and even identify with a Tow
missile?

And those two Russians dead - seem to make you "feel good", while most
people are concerned this will lead
to a wider war and more death and destruction.  But only those concerned
more about humanity and suffering,
while the merchants of death make profits and male egos show "their
manhood".  And your al-Nusra Turkmen
"comrades" can't wait to "kill more" too!

Shameful.



> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:44:02 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria
border | World news | The Guardian
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> Guess that makes me a TOW-ist.
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> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Pollack <acpolla...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Fuckin' A.
> > Those who say "the only solution in Syria is a political one" are right:
> > the politics flowing from the barrel of a TOW.
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> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Fwd: Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border | World news | The Guardian

2015-11-27 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 11/27/15 2:05 PM, Andrew Pollack via Marxism wrote:

Below is a vile response sent by John Obrien. I've blocked him on my
personal account, but comrades on the list should know he sent this as
documentation in case he's similarly abusive to others.

-- Forwarded message --
From: John Obrien <causecollec...@msn.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Marxism] Fwd: Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border
| World news | The Guardian
To: Andrew Pollack <acpolla...@gmail.com>


Are you buying these missiles yourself - and providing as "socialist
purchased"
from the  corporate merchants of death?

Why not go to Syria and join your "comrades" you so want to support?
You seem among those who want poor U. S. youth to go invade, occupy and
kill -
sounding much like the U. S. republican party folks.  I assume you will not
go fight yourself,
also like those same republican party folks of GW Bush, Dick Cheney and the
other neo-cons.
You do sound much like a "chicken hawk" of the new U. S. republican model
form.

But since you have no shame in supporting al-Nusra, can we expect you to be
anything but a b. s. talker
and make unseemly "jokes" with the misery and death of war?  You have lost
what made you initially interested
in socialism and humanity.  Now you identify with the Raytheon Company
which manufactured these Tow missiles!

What kind of socialist would joke about and even identify with a Tow
missile?

And those two Russians dead - seem to make you "feel good", while most
people are concerned this will lead
to a wider war and more death and destruction.  But only those concerned
more about humanity and suffering,
while the merchants of death make profits and male egos show "their
manhood".  And your al-Nusra Turkmen
"comrades" can't wait to "kill more" too!

Shameful.




Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:44:02 -0500
Subject: Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria

border | World news | The Guardian

From: marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu
To: causecollec...@msn.com




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Guess that makes me a TOW-ist.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Pollack <acpolla...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Fuckin' A.
Those who say "the only solution in Syria is a political one" are right:
the politics flowing from the barrel of a TOW.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:


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