Re: [Marxism] Fwd: We Know for Sure That Bread Is Unhealthy—for the Environment, at Least | Alternet
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Actually nitrogen is a key agricultural question that not only sabotages the 'green revolution' gloss but challenges all industrial agriculture precepts. It is the unsustainable 'energy' (like coal) exploited to over feed the soils of the capitalist world.It destroys soils, and when it runs off into catchments it kills seas. A key factor (but not the main one) destroying the Great Barrier Reef is Nitrogen run off. The whole N:P:K obsession is also being challenged by a shortage of Phosphorous. This is why in some countries agricultural scientists are experimenting with harvesting human urine as whizz has plenty of K. While Methane and Carbon emanated by agriculture can be greatly reduced by changing grazing and horticulture protocols to improve the microbial content of soil, free use of Nitrogen --as in chemical fertilizers -- has to stop pro tem. Agriculture needs to be weaned. For a better take on agriculture check out the Soil Alliance that a gropiup of socialsits run here in Australia. http://soilalliance.blogspot.com.au/ dave riley _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: We Know for Sure That Bread Is Unhealthy—for the Environment, at Least | Alternet
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 5/31/17 9:27 AM, DW via Marxism wrote: That slice of stupid slice of bread contributes about .2% of a U.S. citizens GHG contribution. Are there not more important things to discuss David Walters The real takeaway from the article is the impact that nitrogen-based fertilizer has on climate change. This is something I had not considered. Here is the science: http://news.berkeley.edu/2012/04/02/fertilizer-use-responsible-for-increase-in-nitrous-oxide-in-atmosphere/ _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: We Know for Sure That Bread Is Unhealthy—for the Environment, at Least | Alternet
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Dumb article. Completely conflates *bread* with all agriculture. Little of the article actually deals with the relatively small amount of bread we eat versus other food and of course, argues that agriculture is "42%" of all GHG. I suppose this includes cattle raising as well, which would be 96% of *that* number. And where the hell does this "46%" come from anyway? The EPA in the US estimates it's 5.8%. According to *Planet Experts* web site "World Resources Institute (WRI) and the UN Food and Agricultural Organization (UN FAO) place the estimate between 14 and 18 percent of all anthropogenic GHG emissions." 46% my ass. That slice of stupid slice of bread contributes about .2% of a U.S. citizens GHG contribution. Are there not more important things to discuss David Walters _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: We Know for Sure That Bread Is Unhealthy—for the Environment, at Least | Alternet
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Agreed. The industrialization of food, the massive waste, the globalization of the market, and the immense investment of costly and destructive process of preserving and package tends to maximize the damage done the environment by almost any particular item on the menu. ML _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Fwd: We Know for Sure That Bread Is Unhealthy—for the Environment, at Least | Alternet
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * A convincing article but one that leaves you wondering if it is "civilization" itself that is unhealthy. http://www.alternet.org/environment/bread-really-unhealthy-least-environment _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
