Re: [Marxism] Marxism Digest, Vol 154, Issue 29

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>On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Stewart <
>hasc.warrior.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> their 8 years of imperial neoliberal austerity has created a gap that only
>> the Greens can now step into and take power within.
>
>
>Andrew,
>
>Do you really see the Greens winning the election in Nov.? (taking power)
>If so please explain further, because again, not just me, I don't think you
>can convince the masses of black people that you aren't delusional when you
>make statements like that and they will probably not join the Green party
>if its representatives sound so utterly out of touch with the political
>realities of 2016.
>
>Many will think you are lining up to put a racist in the White House with
>your bold talk, and if Trump should win, they will blame you for what
>follows.
>
>Dan Rather on Rachel Maddow "Afro American voters have been through a lot,
>they are almost impossible to fool."
>He has a lot of respect for the black voter and he is right to. Black
>voters have 85%-90% voted their interest in just about every election since
>they have been able to vote. They will also in this election and they
>believe that means voting against Trump.
>
>Frankly, I doubt Stein can quadruple her poll numbers soon enough to make
>the debate's 15%, but if you think she can beat Trump & Clinton, then you
>won't think that you aren't voting against Trump by voting for Trump.
>
>75% of black women strongly fear Trump winning and they will be voting
>against Trump. They don't share your "hope", yes that is a kinder word,
>that Jill Stein can beat Trump, so they will be voting for Clinton.
>
>You may think they are wrong, Dan Rather is wrong and you know better, but
>I think they are right.
>
>Can we all agree on one thing? Don Trump's campaign has made the relation
>of white supremacy to state power in the United States the main question of
>election year 2016.
>
>Do others disagree with that? Because it is crystal clear to me and I need
>to know where I stand with you.
>
>Clay
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Re: [Marxism] Marxism Digest, Vol 154, Issue 29

[Clay Claiborne via Marxism]

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On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Stewart <
hasc.warrior.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

> their 8 years of imperial neoliberal austerity has created a gap that only
> the Greens can now step into and take power within.


Andrew,

Do you really see the Greens winning the election in Nov.? (taking power)
If so please explain further, because again, not just me, I don't think you
can convince the masses of black people that you aren't delusional when you
make statements like that and they will probably not join the Green party
if its representatives sound so utterly out of touch with the political
realities of 2016.

Many will think you are lining up to put a racist in the White House with
your bold talk, and if Trump should win, they will blame you for what
follows.

Dan Rather on Rachel Maddow "Afro American voters have been through a lot,
they are almost impossible to fool."
He has a lot of respect for the black voter and he is right to. Black
voters have 85%-90% voted their interest in just about every election since
they have been able to vote. They will also in this election and they
believe that means voting against Trump.

Frankly, I doubt Stein can quadruple her poll numbers soon enough to make
the debate's 15%, but if you think she can beat Trump & Clinton, then you
won't think that you aren't voting against Trump by voting for Trump.

75% of black women strongly fear Trump winning and they will be voting
against Trump. They don't share your "hope", yes that is a kinder word,
that Jill Stein can beat Trump, so they will be voting for Clinton.

You may think they are wrong, Dan Rather is wrong and you know better, but
I think they are right.

Can we all agree on one thing? Don Trump's campaign has made the relation
of white supremacy to state power in the United States the main question of
election year 2016.

Do others disagree with that? Because it is crystal clear to me and I need
to know where I stand with you.

Clay

Clay


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