Re: [Marxism] a reply on "mass workers/broad" parties
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 9/17/15 9:42 AM, Andrew Pollack via Marxism wrote: http://socialistworker.org/2015/09/17/where-do-socialists-belongI'm with Todd on this. Make sure to click: http://socialistworker.org/2015/09/17/where-do-socialists-belong Dan Russell, one of the two co-authors, was a long time Marxmail subscriber who unsubbed around the time I was supposedly threatening to beat Vivek Chibber up. Or it might have been some other offense--I can't remember, there are so many. In any case, I thought Dan and his co-author were making excellent points while I consider Todd, who I believe is still lurking here, one of the more astute ISO'ers on this question. He was quite close to Camejo. I will try to find time to stick my nose into this exchange when I get a chance. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] a reply on "mass workers/broad" parties
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I made the following initial reaction comment on the ISO response section to the article. As ISO always seems fairly sectarian in hearing from people outside their organization, I thought I'd share here, too: Chretien and, likely, the ISO leadership is taking great pains to justify their existence as a sectarian left formation--albeit guilty about it. Most of Chretien's points of disagreement with the Russell/Principé article are "educational" in nature, that is, trying to "correct" the authors for not truly knowing what he--and presumably, ISO--"know" about revolutionary politics. In the main, Russell/Principé take issue with this very sort of thinking, that using the increasing ferment in the world revolutionary struggle should cease being a justification for all too singular focus on "revolutionary" parties and, rather, that actual revolutionaries can have the ability to become much focused, "centralized", if you will by seeking a more democratic approach to building "mass workers parties" and engaging in united work with the inevitable smaller revolutionary "currents" in and outside of the sectarian left alongside the pro-capitalist currents where many new activists are often led, at least initially, to join. "Dan Russell, one of the two co-authors, was a long time Marxmail " _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] a reply on "mass workers/broad" parties
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * http://socialistworker.org/2015/09/17/where-do-socialists-belongI'm with Todd on this. Shark Tank’s Huge Idea Warren Buffett is worried, but you can profit. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/55fac3874f6a5438757ebst04duc _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
