Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:26 AM, A.R. G amithrgu...@gmail.com wrote: Last I checked it means kill someone, so this should constitute a violent threat. It's a slang expression, encountered primarily in restaurant context. When you eighty-six someone, you refuse to serve them. http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/14334/what-does-the-term-86d-relate-to Ridiculous, if that's what Anthony meant. I've disagreed with Joe a few times lately and I think he was being unnecessarily personal in the recent exchange, but let's not go around ejecting people just because discussion gets a little hot. As Joe says, it gets much hotter in Gaza. And for that matter Yarmouk. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I can verify it is a naval term. A variant is 'deep six'. Means to get rid of. Probably spread from military service to police, restaurant, etc. On Apr 12, 2015 10:56 PM, Einde O'Callaghan via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 13.04.2015 07:33, Charles Faulkner via Marxism wrote: this has gotten out of hand. 86 isn't a murderous threat. it's american police jargon for throwing someone out of a bar. Here's some background on the term - probably more than any of us will ever need to know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_%28term%29 Einde O'Callaghan _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/dave.xx%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * this has gotten out of hand. 86 isn't a murderous threat. it's american police jargon for throwing someone out of a bar. - Original Message - From: Joseph Catron via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu To: Charles Faulkner lacena...@comcast.net Cc: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 9:33:14 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86 POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Meh. I'm pretty used to violent threats from strange people on the Internet. There were times in Gaza when those of us with online presences would read our oddest ones out loud to entertain each other. But those, like this one, typically came from other continents, and often involved a bit more creativity. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:26 AM, A.R. G amithrgu...@gmail.com wrote: Last I checked it means kill someone, so this should constitute a violent threat. -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/lacenaire%40comcast.net _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * On 13.04.2015 07:33, Charles Faulkner via Marxism wrote: this has gotten out of hand. 86 isn't a murderous threat. it's american police jargon for throwing someone out of a bar. Here's some background on the term - probably more than any of us will ever need to know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_%28term%29 Einde O'Callaghan _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * I've never heard it before, but most voters on Urban Dictionary agree that it means to kill someone: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=86%27d I used to know police codes pretty well, and don't recall any systems in which two-digit ones reach the eighties. Where is that? Mind you, I'm not that bothered about it. During the 2014 war, I'd get dozens of more entertaining threats a day on Twitter alone. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Charles Faulkner lacena...@comcast.net wrote: this has gotten out of hand. 86 isn't a murderous threat. it's american police jargon for throwing someone out of a bar. -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * It's general U.S. slang for a bartender or bar bouncer telling a customer that, due to her or his ill behavior, the customer is refused service; or, more likely, that the person is no longer welcome on the premises and must leave now, and may mean the person is banned from returning. The notion that it is some kind of threat to do violence to the customer, or list member, is silly. T -Original Message- From: Charles Faulkner via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Apr 13, 2015 1:33 AM To: Thomas F Barton thomasfbar...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86 POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * this has gotten out of hand. 86 isn't a murderous threat. it's american police jargon for throwing someone out of a bar. - Original Message - From: Joseph Catron via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu To: Charles Faulkner lacena...@comcast.net Cc: Activists and scholars in Marxist tradition marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 9:33:14 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86 . On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:26 AM, A.R. G amithrgu...@gmail.com wrote: Last I checked it means kill someone, so this should constitute a violent threat. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * With apologies for the one-liner, what on Earth is that? I know some don't care for it overall, but think now is an excellent time to cite the fifth rule from Orwell's Politics and the English Language: Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent. http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:50 PM, Anthony Boynton via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: I vote to 86 Joseph Catron -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Meh. I'm pretty used to violent threats from strange people on the Internet. There were times in Gaza when those of us with online presences would read our oddest ones out loud to entertain each other. But those, like this one, typically came from other continents, and often involved a bit more creativity. On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:26 AM, A.R. G amithrgu...@gmail.com wrote: Last I checked it means kill someone, so this should constitute a violent threat. -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] A vote to 86
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Last I checked it means kill someone, so this should constitute a violent threat. Also if Joe gets axed, I'm out. - Amith On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Joseph Catron via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * With apologies for the one-liner, what on Earth is that? I know some don't care for it overall, but think now is an excellent time to cite the fifth rule from Orwell's Politics and the English Language: Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent. http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:50 PM, Anthony Boynton via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: I vote to 86 Joseph Catron -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/amithrgupta%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
