[Marxism] [microsound] Flash Mobs and Mob Violence
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == From Harper's this fascinating stuff: My crowd: Or, phase 5 http://www.harpers.org/archive/2006/03/0080963 From Mediamatters: What if Fox News actually wants mob violence? http://mediamatters.org/columns/20100331 -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Flash-Mobs-and-Mob-Violence-tp28161618p28161618.html Sent from the Marxism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] new blog post: Yuma
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Full at http://blog.cheapmotelsandahotplate.org Yuma is one of those iconic towns of the west, like Tombstone. If Tombstone has its OK Corral, Yuma has its 3:10. Situated along the once mighty Colorado River, baking in the Sonoran desert, it is at the southwest tip of Arizona, just a few feet from the California border. According to Guinness, the area surrounding the city is the sunniest on earth, although NASA scientists say that this distinction is held by a Sahara Desert site in northern Niger. The sun shines in Yuma for 4,050 hours of the 4,456 hours of daylight during a year, or about 90 percent of the time. All that sun and the desert terrain make it hot, with an average daily high in July of 107 degrees Fahrenheit. On July 28, 1995, the temperature reached 124 degrees! We drove into Yuma on Interstate 8, which begins as a split with Interstate 10 north of Tucson. It’s all desert, all the time, although there are many lovely mountains, and the day we went, we saw brilliant bouquets of wildflowers, alongside the road and in the distance. The best scenery is on that part of the road that goes through the Sonoran Desert National Monument. It is always surprising to me to see how many mountains there are in desert regions, or that while you are driving, you begin to climb and might actually go through a pass. We noticed that the saguaro cactuses out our windows looked beaten down, almost all of them charred and scarred at their bases. Perhaps these sentinels of the desert had lost the battle to survive the modern human assault on their habitat. We passed the town of Gila Bend, about sixty miles from the Interstate 8/10 split, named for a sharp bend in the Gila River, which empties into the Colorado near Yuma. When I was a boy, I checked the newspaper every day for the lowest and highest temperatures in the United States. Gila Bend was a frequent winner for the high, as was its neighbor Yuma. Yuma is in a wide river valley, and the original inhabitants fished, hunted, and planted crops. Before it was defiled by so many dams, the Colorado was a rushing river, prone to massive flooding. This made crossing it a dangerous venture. Here, however, there are two large rocky mounds, one on each side of the river. Indian Hill and Prison Hill narrowed and calmed the river just a few miles south of the confluence of the Gila, at the present location of Yuma, Arizona. The Prison Hill in the quote is where the famous territorial prison was located. Parts of it are still there, and what is left is part of the Yuma Territorial Prison State Historical Park. When the prison closed in 1909, it fittingly became Yuma Union High School, perhaps like my high school, a prison for the mind. Indian Hill is on the California side of the Colorado, on part of the Quechan Indian reservation. The Quechen and the Cocopah Indians occupied the Yuma region when the Spaniards came calling. They were farmers and hunters, taking advantage of the river and the natural crossing. Spain and then the United States saw the usefulness of the crossing too, though they had different objectives in mind: military expansion, commerce, a place to build a bridge for settlers, prospectors, and the like. Though the Indians were friendly, they soon came into conflict with the Europeans, a conflict they eventually lost, along with their lands. We walked across the one-lane bridge, which is flanked by a railroad span, along which there is a steady flow of train traffic, and looked at the old mission church and the Quechan tribal buildings. A few hundred feet down the road, we saw a casino. Inside, there was the usual depressing sight of people losing money who cannot afford to do so, smoking and looking generally unhealthy. Indian casinos are often not owned directly by the tribe, and few native people benefit from them. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] new blog post: Yuma
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == MICHAEL YATES wrote: We walked across the one-lane bridge, which is flanked by a railroad span, along which there is a steady flow of train traffic, and looked at the old mission church and the Quechan tribal buildings. A few hundred feet down the road, we saw a casino. Inside, there was the usual depressing sight of people losing money who cannot afford to do so, smoking and looking generally unhealthy. Indian casinos are often not owned directly by the tribe, and few native people benefit from them. Although I have read maybe 2000 pages on the Indian wars of the Southwest as background for an article on Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian, I am afraid that I will never have time to write it up. Part of the research involved reading a book on the Quechans who were the custodians and gatekeepers of a bridge almost certainly in the same location Michael described above. In McCarthy's novel, the filthy white scalpers kill the Quechans and commandeer the bridge, leading eventually to their own destruction. This is based on an historical event apparently, as is much of this worthless novel. In McCarthy's Hobbesian universe, there is little to distinguish the Indians from the Indian-killers. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] new blog post: Yuma
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis Proyect wrote: Part of the research involved reading a book on the Quechans who were the custodians and gatekeepers of a bridge almost certainly in the same location Michael described above. In McCarthy's novel, the filthy white scalpers kill the Quechans and commandeer the bridge, leading eventually to their own destruction. This is based on an historical event apparently, as is much of this worthless novel. In McCarthy's Hobbesian universe, there is little to distinguish the Indians from the Indian-killers. One correction. There was no bridge in the period covered in Blood Meridian, only a ferry boat that became the object of struggle. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Climategate Researchers Largely Cleared
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == This is particularly interesting after the Rachel Maddow follow-up on the A.C.O.R.N. expose. Media's hot for the scandalous story and never investigates things too deeply...and the professional Spinmeisters have clearly learned to use that to advantage. ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Decline of organized Judaism
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Lou, in past generations, Jewish atheists would have celebrated that news by eating their porkchops on Yom Kippur. I am not sure how much of that article is really news. Sociological studies of the American Jewish community have shown Jews to be among the most secularized ethnic groups in the US. As the article noted, secular political ideologies like liberalism and Zionism, long ago, began to fill the void by the weakening of religious faith. And of course as Zionism loses favor among younger Jews, attempts by Jewish communal leaders to use support for Israel as a means for strengthening Jewish identity will likely go nowhere. Jim Farmelant http://independent.academia.edu/JimFarmelant -- Original Message -- From: Louis Proyect l...@panix.com Subject: [Marxism] Decline of organized Judaism Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 14:28:29 -0400 (I'll celebrate this news tonight with some porkchops.) Jewish Review of books Prospects for American Judaism by LANCE J. SUSSMAN Contemporary American Judaism: Transformation and Renewal by Dana Evan Kaplan Columbia University Press, 446 pp., $34.50 Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bbce2e06d54c1396b6st04vuc Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Hannah Arendt Apologized for Racists in Little Rock
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == liberal groovy icon Hannah Arendt with her banal Good German view of the struggle at Central High in Little Rock in the 1950s: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=966657 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Decline of organized Judaism
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I don't have the numbers, but I suspect that one would see the same problems in the Episcopal and Presbyterian churches and the United Church of Christ as well. I think it has more to do with class than it does with culture or theology. Tom On Apr 7, 2010, at 7:53 PM, farmela...@juno.com wrote: I am not sure how much of that article is really news. Sociological studies of the American Jewish community have shown Jews to be among the most secularized ethnic groups in the US. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Hannah Arendt Apologized for Racists in Little Rock
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Tom Cod wrote: liberal groovy icon Hannah Arendt with her banal Good German view of the struggle at Central High in Little Rock in the 1950s: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=966657 Here's a good critique of Arendt by Reuven Kaminer, the esteemed Israeli leftist: http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2007/kaminer150807.html Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Decline of organized Judaism
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Jonathan Miller's discussion of secularization and his lack of Jewish identity is part of--if not central to--his three hourly programs on the History of Disbelief, which is in bits and pieces on YouTube. It's highly recommended for those who failed to see it when it was aired on the tube...which I'm not sure it was in most of the US ML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxdRq15ySDA Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Decline of organized Judaism
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Absolutely, the phenomenon seems to apply to most organized religions in the US. But for immigration, there would be even steeper declines in attendance in Roman Catholic parish churches than in the liberal mainline Protestant denominations. SR - Original Message - From: Thomas Bias I don't have the numbers, but I suspect that one would see the same problems in the Episcopal and Presbyterian churches and the United Church of Christ as well. I think it has more to do with class than it does with culture or theology. Tom Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] 'Venezuela 2d most dangerous for trade unionists after Colombia' - BBC
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[Marxism] Kyrgyzstan Protests: Opposition Claims Control, At Least 40 People Killed
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Re: [Marxism] Tea Party Poll
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9ETR1380show_article=1 Johnson and other black conservatives say they were drawn to the tea party movement because of what they consider its commonsense fiscal values of controlled spending, less taxes and smaller government. The fact that they're black—or that most tea partyers are white—should have nothing to do with it, they say. You have to be honest and true to yourself. What am I supposed to do, vote Democratic just to be popular? Just to fit in? asked Clifton Bazar, a 45-year-old New Jersey freelance photographer and conservative blogger. Opponents have branded the tea party as a group of racists hiding behind economic concerns—and reports that some tea partyers were lobbing racist slurs at black congressmen during last month's heated health care vote give them ammunition. But these black conservatives don't consider racism representative of the movement as a whole—or race a reason to support it. Angela McGlowan, a black congressional candidate from Mississippi, said her tea party involvement is not about a black or white issue. It's not even about Republican or Democrat, from my standpoint, she told The Associated Press. All of us are taxed too much. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Jeffrey Thomas Piercy mqd...@mqduck.net wrote: On 04/06/2010 12:43 PM, S. Artesian wrote: I think the poll is shite. No arguments here. I hear the Tea Partiers are against taking the census because it asks for your ethnicity, income and religion. Maybe their more bored members agreed to rebel against the tyranny of demographic data by lying about their race when asked. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Tea Party Poll
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I've said it many, many times.around a fifth of the American people are socially and politically fucknuts. It only makes sense that there would be African American manifestations of this, as well...though most of what I've encountered is politically reactionary because they say that they love Jesus...that nice Republican white boy that lives in the suburbs and comes in once in a while to appear in a taco or something... ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] South Carolina: The State of Confederate Cretinism
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == http://rawstory.com/2010/02/south-carolinas-subversive-activities-registration-act-force/ No joke: South Carolina now requires ’subversives’ to register By Daniel Tencer Friday, February 5th, 2010 -- 11:49 am No joke: South Carolina now requires subversives to register. Five-dollar registration fee for persons planning to overthrow US government Terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions -- or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The state's Subversive Activities Registration Act, passed last year and now officially on the books, states that every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State. There's even a $5 filing fee. By subversive organization, the law means every corporation, society, association, camp, group, bund, political party, assembly, body or organization, composed of two or more persons, which directly or indirectly advocates, advises, teaches or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States [or] of this State. Story continues below... A PDF of the registration form can be found here, courtesy of FitsNews. The law also gives subversive organizations subject to foreign control 30 days to register with the state after setting up shop in South Carolina. While the intention of the law is apparently aimed at Islamic terrorists, it's unclear in the law's wording whether it can be applied to right-wing militias, some of whom have reputedly called for the overthrow of the US government. The law states that fraternal and patriotic groups are exempt from the law, but only if they don't contemplate the overthrow of the government. While the law is clearly redundant -- there are plenty of statutes at the state and federal level through which terrorists can be prosecuted -- it reflects a not-uncommon pattern in some states of doubling down against particular crimes. For instance, South Carolina is among those states which require drug dealers to declare their illegal income, or face additional criminal penalties on top of the already established penalties for buying, possessing and selling drugs. The South Carolina blog FitsNews describes the new law as bureaucracy for terrorists. In the long and storied history of utterly retarded legislation in South Carolina, we may have finally found the legal statute that takes the cake for sheer stupidity, which we think you’ll agree is saying something, the unsigned blog posting scathingly commented. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] What is the biggest flaw in the labor theory of value?
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == So, thinking about science and Marx’s work, (you know how it is when you’re bored,) the picture of Engels’ “Socialism: Scientific and Utopian” came back to me, and then I had a vague remembrance of the last time I talked to Tom in a post related to Rosa Lichtenstein’s “refutation” of dialectics (giggles), when he suddenly accused me of “sectarian”, though it didn’t seem he was following the thread, after which he recommended to me Engels’ “The Origin of the family, private property and the state.” So, Tom, to return the favor, I recommend to you http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1880/soc-utop/index.htm You know, maybe it’ll spurt your interest and maybe you may provide us with some (any) evidence to support your claims against the whole “idealist” work of Marx, how “subjective” conditions determine prices, how Lenin’s Imperialism is exempt from this charge given its popular approach, etc., evidence, science, you know what I mean. It’s not about intellectual elitism; it’s about trying to further an informed, conscious political action ( politics and science? How could those two ever be related? That Marx guy must have been delirious spending years, poverty, his child’s death, to write this most abstruse “critique” of political economy –critique…hah, we all know he was just an economist who made the ‘choice’ to stand on the side of workers, as opposed to Adam Smith who didn't make that choice, so we're all here cuz we've made a choice see...) something which, who knows, maybe, perhaps, goes a little beyond a couple Mao slogans? Else, like my mom says: en boca cerrada, no entran moscas. _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
