[Marxism] ASorry, Frank. I paid for them and I can see them if I want to.
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9953/ This idea that the publication of private conversations and communications is in the public interest So the official, publicly funded, communications of the most militarily powerful state apparatus in the world are private conversations and communications! Sorry, Frank. We paid for them and we have a moral right to see them if we want to. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] ASorry, Frank. I paid for them and I can see them if I want to.
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == WikiLeaks certainly embarrasses the powers that be - which is certainly all to the good. Surely it will awaken some to the disgustingly anti=human activities of these powers - but there must also be the negative effect that the result of these leaks is to just vastly increase the security network these powers set up against us. Who wins in the end all depends on us - and millions more, not only realising how we are being duped, mislead and exploited, but also being prepared to to put our lives on the line in opposing this system and its leaders until we REALLY get a change !! Just at the moment WikiLeaks is a great help to our argument and propaganda and should be warmly welcomed. In the long term it will only have a positive effect if our use of it brings many others into sufficient activity which starts to get rid of the bastards exposed by their own words unleashed to the public by WikiLeaks THIS is the main argument in question - everything else is a sidetrack Paddy http://apling.freeservers.com -Original Message- From: marxism-bounces+e.c.apling=btinternet@lists.econ.utah.edu [mailto:marxism-bounces+e.c.apling=btinternet@lists.econ.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Mage Sent: 01 December 2010 10:12 PM To: e.c.apl...@btinternet.com Subject: [Marxism] ASorry, Frank. I paid for them and I can see them if I want to. This idea that the publication of private conversations and communications is in the public interest So the official, publicly funded, communications of the most militarily powerful state apparatus in the world are private conversations and communications! Sorry, Frank. We paid for them and we have a moral right to see them if we want to. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/e.c.apling%40btinternet.c om Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] ASorry, Frank. I paid for them and I can see them if I want to.
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Jon Stewart did make a very good point of all this the other night. While defending WikiLeaks, he also pointed out that it was quite naive to think that anything WikiLeaks disclosed was going to shock Americans. As a people, Americans have managed to process vast quantities of bullshit with so much as a hiccup...and certainly no real indigestion ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
