Re: [Marxism] Avatar, Art and Revolution

2010-01-14 Thread waistline2
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In a message dated 1/13/2010 5:43:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
bbaue...@gmail.com writes:

 The Matrix was capitalism, not technology, and it was a system  of
surplus extraction that operated without most people knowing it because  of
the dreamlike state much like consumer society.  


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Interesting metaphor. 
 
Capitalism as surplus extraction rather than the bourgeois production of  
commodities and the wage form of labor as the mode of distribution? (Boy that 
 was a crappy sentence). Hey, I don't recall a bunch of capitalists, 
factories of  workers and exchange of products. Production in Zion seems for 
direct  consumption and military defense.  

For me the technology was  embodied in machine society and self aware 
machines driven to seek a sustainable  energy source. These self aware machines 
posses the capacity for machine  reproduction, rather than commodity 
exchange. My take was that the machines had  destroyed the society wide 
productivity 
infrastructure that gave birth to the  machines. 

Wait a minute, we are talking about a fantasy flick. Heroic  characters, 
spiritual enlightenment, girl gets boy and revelations. And lots of  bullets.  

A dream state as metaphor for the fetish that attaches  itself to commodity 
production? I can buy that. If a movie inspires one to  strive to break the 
chains of our mutual degradation more power to you.  

Will Smith was offered the lead role of Neo but turned it down. Thus,  our 
hero was white in a context representative of all hues of color and peoples, 
 although I do not recall a Mexican/Chicano character. .Perhaps, the self  
reproducing character of machine society displaced their labor inputs and  
Mexican labor migrated to another part of earth.  

Yea, I  know,  . . . . its not funny. 
 
Then, I very much liked, The Long Kiss Goodbye. 
 
Boy does not get girl. The end of the Cold War polarize intelligence  
agencies seeking new enemies to win support for massive funding. Girl is forced 
 
to shed the outer trappings of the great American middle class to discover 
her  true identity, and then proceeds to kick everyone ass in the movie. 
 
My kinda girl. 
 
I was like, damn, I need to marry Geena Davis.  
 
Then the wife said, Its just a movie. Take the garbage out and stop  
playin.. 


WL. 
 


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Re: [Marxism] Avatar, Art and Revolution

2010-01-13 Thread brad bauerly
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 WaistLine Wrote:
 The Matrix movie generated much discussion as a fun movie, but it was not a
  game changer or capable of inspiring a social movement. Actually, the
 Matrix was  Luddite ideology in the era of computers and advanced robotics,
 where liberation  from the machine meant human freedom.

 What?  The Matrix was capitalism, not technology, and it was a system of
surplus extraction that operated without most people knowing it because of
the dreamlike state much like consumer society.  It is based in part on
Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation.  And it did inspire social
movements, even if they were somewhat autonomous and postmodern.

Brad

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